| --- Log opened Mon Apr 10 00:00:48 2017 |
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| 04:07 | | * McMartin eyes RISC OS, as he opens a directory and finds it full of files marked OBEY |
| 04:07 | <&McMartin> | They appear to be batchfiles |
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| 06:50 | <@abudhabi> | https://vimeo.com/211758157 |
| 06:50 | <@abudhabi> | Content warning: Shoggoths. |
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| 16:04 | < Jessikat> | When you discard a code review from 3.5 years ago and three of the four folk on it aren't even at the company any more |
| 16:12 | < Azash> | Not very unusual in this field, ime |
| 16:12 | < Jessikat> | Aye, it's not, it's more wtf do I have a code review that old |
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| 18:46 | <&jeroud> | SHENZHEN I/O is <3. |
| 18:48 | <&jeroud> | I have been competing with McMartin in the histograms because nobody else on my steam friends list plays it. |
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| 18:52 | <&jeroud> | Vornicus: Is there a particular reason you don't have it that wouldn't be solved by a gift copy? :-) |
| 18:57 | | * Alek takes a look.... wishlists. |
| 18:59 | <&jeroud> | I got the Zachtronics bundle on Friday. |
| 18:59 | <@Alek> | nice |
| 18:59 | <&jeroud> | TIS-100 didn't really grab me. |
| 18:59 | <&jeroud> | I bounced off Infinifactory quite hard. |
| 19:03 | <&jeroud> | (I played SpaceChem years ago and enjoyed the early bits, but then hit some frustration walls and gave up.) |
| 19:45 | <~Vornicus> | jeroud: Cash Money is the problem |
| 19:45 | <~Vornicus> | So certainly it would be solved by a gift copy. |
| 19:46 | <&jeroud> | Excellent. Having you in my histograms is worth the purchase price to me. :-) |
| 19:46 | <~Vornicus> | lol |
| 19:46 | <&jeroud> | How did you find TIS-100 and Infinifactory, btw? |
| 19:46 | <~Vornicus> | who me? |
| 19:46 | <~Vornicus> | I don't have them either! |
| 19:47 | <~Vornicus> | infinifactory looks up my alley though |
| 19:47 | <&jeroud> | I'm sure I saw you in TIS-100 histograms. |
| 19:47 | <~Vornicus> | nay |
| 19:47 | <&jeroud> | I'm probably misremembering. |
| 19:54 | <&jeroud> | Oh, I can't gift it to you. |
| 19:54 | <&jeroud> | Because apparently I can only gift it to people in South Africa. |
| 19:54 | <~Vornicus> | Lame |
| 19:55 | <&jeroud> | Because who knows why. |
| 19:55 | <&jeroud> | Sorry. :-( |
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| 20:00 | <&jeroud> | Looks like the same region restriction on pretty much everything. |
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| 20:00 | <&jeroud> | I guess I can't buy steam things for most of my friends anymore. |
| 20:02 | <@ErikMesoy> | What region is Vorn in? Is it likely I'd be locked out of same from Norway? |
| 20:02 | <@abudhabi> | I can't even buy things for myself due to some regional payment issue. |
| 20:02 | <@abudhabi> | I give cash to someone who can. |
| 20:04 | <&jeroud> | Having searched the message and looked at some of the conversations, it seems to be based on currency. |
| 20:05 | <&jeroud> | Which would be why I can only buy things for people in ZA. |
| 20:06 | <&jeroud> | But others can buy things for people in several countries. |
| 20:06 | <&jeroud> | This sucks. |
| 20:15 | <@ErikMesoy> | WTF. Steam displays my balance in NOK, but I have had no problem buying for people outside Norway. |
| 20:15 | <@ErikMesoy> | So either it's something in addition to currency, or "based on currency" is some semi-hidden variable. |
| 20:16 | <@ErikMesoy> | Vornicus: PM me your steam and let's see if I can buy you Shenzen |
| 20:16 | <&jeroud> | How closely does NOK track EUR? |
| 20:17 | <@abudhabi> | They've got treaties that they shouldn't deviate too much. |
| 20:17 | | * Vornicus is Vornicus |
| 20:17 | <@ErikMesoy> | jeroud: Between 7,50 and 9 over the past few years |
| 20:18 | | * Vornicus is also in the US |
| 20:18 | <@ErikMesoy> | 2 Vornicus on steam. You the bubblegum head? |
| 20:18 | <&jeroud> | ZAR is pretty volatile. |
| 20:18 | <~Vornicus> | I'm the one that's Dr. Light being headcrabbed by Kirby. |
| 20:18 | <@ErikMesoy> | Kirby is the pink one, that's bubblegum head. :P Right, friendlisted |
| 20:22 | <@ErikMesoy> | Bought it for Vorn and I was charged in NOK on the payment screen. |
| 20:22 | <~Vornicus> | oh man thank you |
| 20:22 | <&jeroud> | ErikMesoy: And no warning about region stuff? |
| 20:22 | <@ErikMesoy> | jeroud: Nowhere that I noticed. |
| 20:24 | <&jeroud> | Ah, and he has it. |
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| 21:46 | <&McMartin> | Since I get the impression it's someone in this channel: Who is Team Shovel Baughb? |
| 21:47 | <&McMartin> | (If it isn't someone here, I think it's Noah, who *used* to be someone here) |
| 21:48 | <&jeroud> | Never heard of that name. |
| 21:49 | <@Tamber> | "Been around a while; did a project by the name of 'Ark'..." |
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| 21:57 | <&McMartin> | Also, an update from over the weekend |
| 21:57 | <&McMartin> | I had been marveling at RISC OS because apparently until quite recently NULL pointer dereferences were OK and did nothing of consequence, but that this stopped being true in ARMv8 and thus things started falling down on Pi3 |
| 21:58 | <&McMartin> | It turns out that ARMs usually start executing from 0 on reset |
| 21:59 | <@Tamber> | How frighteningly reasonable. |
| 22:00 | <&McMartin> | I'm used to "read a reset vector from a fixed memory location and jump to that", but I have, like, one data point. |
| 22:01 | <@Tamber> | 6502? |
| 22:01 | <&McMartin> | Yeah |
| 22:02 | <&McMartin> | I'm not sure I understand what I'm seeing on these other things, but the stuff I see suggests the "Reset Vector" is actually 4 |
| 22:02 | <&McMartin> | on ARM |
| 22:02 | <&McMartin> | And then 0 has a constant in it |
| 22:03 | <&McMartin> | I am suspecting that that is "jump to the location named at location PC+4" but I didn't thtink ARM could do thatt |
| 22:03 | <&McMartin> | Oh wait, of course it can, it's just not a branch |
| 22:04 | <&McMartin> | LDR PC, [4] |
| 22:06 | <&McMartin> | But that's not what it is; 0x0000000 is the initial stack pointer, I guess |
| 22:06 | <&McMartin> | OK |
| 22:08 | <&McMartin> | Hm. Maybe it's a difference between full-scale and embedded ARMs. |
| 22:08 | | * McMartin shakefist |
| 22:09 | <&McMartin> | ... OK, the Pi3 is a "full-size" ARM; Cortex-A53 |
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