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| 01:07 | | * McMartin dubs this project SHEPHERD MEHITABEL GREEN |
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| 03:59 | | * Vornicus rejiggers his unit test rig so he just goes to a terminal window and hits space for it to redo the tests. |
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| 04:14 | | * McMartin writes Hello World in ARM assembler for RISC OS. |
| 04:14 | <&McMartin> | 24 bytes, tying MS-DOS's record. |
| 04:14 | | * McMartin sets WinAmp to playing "Six Words Long", as is only appropriate. |
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| 04:57 | <@Reiv> | ?? |
| 05:13 | <&McMartin> | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uyyQlIIE5k |
| 05:13 | <&McMartin> | The program is written for a 32-bit architecture, and is 24 bytes long |
| 05:13 | <&McMartin> | This Program's Just Six Words Long |
| 05:14 | | * McMartin is now attempting to bludgeon the GNU binutils into submitting to his will, and *thinks* he's got it. |
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| 05:17 | <&[R]> | binutils are just for changing stuff in executable binaries, right? |
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| 05:19 | <&McMartin> | Kiinda |
| 05:19 | <&McMartin> | Also for making them in the first place |
| 05:20 | <&McMartin> | I have a bunch of ELF .o files |
| 05:20 | <&McMartin> | I want, in effect, a completely linked memory image pre-loaded into an absolute address |
| 05:20 | <&McMartin> | And I've got it, as long as there's only one .o file, right now. |
| 05:21 | <&McMartin> | (Depending on how exactly you slice it up, as and ld may also be in the binutils) |
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| 05:21 | <&McMartin> | ld with a custom linker script to produce an ELF binary that looks the way I need it to, and then objcopy -O binary to get an image dumped |
| 05:21 | <&McMartin> | Now to see if my linker script can correctly collate material across multiple .o files. |
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| 05:27 | | * Vornicus shenzhen i/os, eyes jerith's score on the "diagnostic pulse generator", where it has to toggle between 0 and 100 while a button is held down. *one instruction*? |
| 05:30 | <&McMartin> | You'll have cause to revisit earlier ones later. That's all I'll say for the moment. |
| 05:35 | | * Vornicus examines the "not recommended" items, determines that oh boy will those be useful for this light up esports souvenir |
| 05:44 | <&McMartin> | Multiple .o files: SUCCESS |
| 05:53 | <~Vornicus> | hooress for success |
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| 06:18 | | * Vornicus needs a chip with more standard inputs and less xinputs 'cause this *could* be done on one chip, if he could put all the wires in. |
| 06:20 | <&McMartin> | Welcome to why this is actually a puzzle game |
| 06:22 | <~Vornicus> | apparently i got the same solution as you~ |
| 06:23 | <~Vornicus> | ...apparently I may be entitled to compensation. |
| 06:26 | <&McMartin> | wat |
| 06:28 | <~Vornicus> | I guess having your self-driving car do dumb things, while not exactly as terrible as mesothelioma, is still worthy of having class action lawsuits |
| 06:28 | <&McMartin> | Oh right |
| 06:57 | <&[R]> | <thetawaves> http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2007/06/rich-programmer-food.html |
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| 07:19 | <&jeroud> | Vornicus: I'm just that good. :-P |
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| 07:25 | <&jeroud> | One of the best things about SHENZHEN I/O is the solitaire it ships with. |
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| 09:31 | <&McMartin> | Opcode of the week: SWINE |
| 09:31 | <&McMartin> | (SoftWare Interrupt if previous comparison was Not Equal) |
| 09:31 | <&McMartin> | Speaking of SHENZHEN I/O, the ARM chip's branches and conditional execution work exactly like that |
| 09:32 | <&McMartin> | At least in 16-bit mode. In 32-bit mode you can go conditional on any status flag whatsoever |
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| 10:01 | | * TheWatcher eyes GTK |
| 10:10 | <@TheWatcher> | compile emacs with gtk2, stuff works. compile it with 3.21 and it works. 3.22 and shit breaks all over. Ugh. |
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| 12:08 | | * Vornicus shenzhen i/os, tries to figure out why the slx instruction isn't sleeping. |
| 12:27 | <~Vornicus> | ...because the radio is non blocking, the dumb thing |
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| 14:53 | | * Vornicus obviously has no idea what he's doing on the vending machine. |
| 15:13 | | * Vornicus does know what he wants to do on the sandwich maker, runs out of instructions though. |
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| 16:10 | | * Vornicus once again finds he needs one more line of code than can fit in the 6000. |
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| 16:12 | <~Vornicus> | that's more like it. |
| 16:16 | | * Azash loses his shit over weird error handling |
| 16:18 | < Azash> | I can see why someone might think it was great to catch errors in specific spots but it's pretty non-convenient when the error is reported as happening in the error reporting code rather than *at the place it actually happened* |
| 16:19 | < Azash> | I prefer thoughts like "I wonder why it failed in foo.cpp" over "I wonder where the core dump went, oh right, we don't keep those by default" |
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| 17:26 | <&ToxicFrog> | Argh, those are the worst |
| 17:29 | < RchrdB> | Does C++ have a thing that re-raises the current exception from a catch block without losing the original stack trace? like bare 'raise' in Python does? |
| 17:30 | < Jessikat> | throw; is an acceptable way to rethrow an exception |
| 17:30 | < Jessikat> | But I don't know how well that carries information |
| 17:30 | < Jessikat> | I'm assuming it'll do what you want, though |
| 17:31 | < RchrdB> | Ta. |
| 17:32 | < RchrdB> | Also you can do things like running gcore against the current process? |
| 17:38 | < Jessikat> | Not a clue sorry |
| 17:38 | < Jessikat> | I've written virtually no C++ code that uses exceptions |
| 17:43 | | * gnolam eyes his commits today. |
| 17:45 | <@gnolam> | It's *insane* how much my productivity goes up when I don't have to answer e-mails or - gah - the phone. |
| 17:52 | < Jessikat> | Makes sense |
| 17:52 | < Jessikat> | My productivity is in the toilet because I'm usually the one defining work for myself and I'm completely wiped |
| 18:14 | | * jerith has been going over old solutions and optimising the hell out of them along all three axes. |
| 18:17 | < Jessikat> | :) |
| 18:17 | | * Jessikat is looking at our bizarre set of standard data structures and scratching her head |
| 18:19 | <&jerith> | How bizarre? |
| 18:19 | <&jerith> | ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2cMG33mWVY ) |
| 18:23 | < Jessikat> | Games industry, people fond of hubris and corner cases with very little grasp of any theory |
| 18:25 | <~Vornicus> | shenzhen i/o's solitaire is definitely good. |
| 18:26 | <&jerith> | I'm somewhere over 60 wins in it now. |
| 18:26 | <&jerith> | (I've been playing while mulling over some tricky work things.) |
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| 19:04 | <@celticminstrel> | Pretty sure bare throw loses the stack trace. |
| 19:04 | <@celticminstrel> | Mainly because the stack trace is obtained only by setting a breakpoint on throws. |
| 19:05 | <@celticminstrel> | Unlike in Python where it's actually stored as part of the exception, I think? |
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| 20:04 | <&jerith> | Wow. The punchline of the spoiler-blocking headphones. |
| 21:37 | | * abudhabi shaves some yaks. |
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| 22:09 | <@abudhabi> | Hm. |
| 22:10 | <@abudhabi> | I feel as though I've asked this before, but does Java's ++ work the same as in C/C++? |
| 22:10 | <~Vornicus> | yes |
| 22:10 | <@abudhabi> | Cool. Then I CAN shorthand it like, long id = currentId++; |
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