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09:31 | <@abudhabi> | Docker is just some fancypants package manager thingy, right? |
09:43 | <&[R]> | ... no. |
09:43 | <&[R]> | It's similar to BSD Jails. |
09:43 | <@abudhabi> | A sandbox? A VM? |
09:43 | <&[R]> | Which are basically half-way between a chroot and a VM as I understand it. |
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10:29 | <@abudhabi> | Hm. I wonder if WinSCP supports going through an SSH tunnel. |
10:37 | <~Vornicus> | sftp is technically ftp done via ssh, so |
10:40 | <&[R]> | Not really |
10:41 | <&[R]> | Err, maybe depends how you interpret that I guess |
10:42 | <&[R]> | AIUI it's just a normal SSH session that uses FTP-mimic commands. |
10:47 | <@abudhabi> | I have a DMZ that I SSH into and SSH from there to my laptop. |
10:48 | <@abudhabi> | I solved the problem by simply putting the required stuff in the Dropbox that syncs on both. |
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11:16 | | * Emmy grrrrs violently at windows. |
11:18 | <@abudhabi> | Windows cannot understand your cynical display of anger! |
11:19 | <@Emmy> | Apparently it's almost entirely impossible any more to choose how/when you want to update any more in w10 |
11:20 | <@abudhabi> | Welcome to Windows. |
11:22 | <@Emmy> | Well, windows, welcome to godmode and GPedit.msc! |
11:22 | <@Emmy> | >:/ |
12:30 | <&McMartin> | If you're good enough at windows to manage your own system's group policies locally, you know about half as much as you would need on Linux to get a configurable desktop experience~ |
12:30 | <&McMartin> | I do wish they'd go back to the Win9x thing of putting all that stuff under a second-level control panel menu for centralized access though |
12:31 | <&McMartin> | Instead of having to know a set of commandline tool names that literally don't identify by name as executables |
12:36 | <&ToxicFrog> | [R], Vornicus: SFTP is file transfer using SSH's built in file transfer features; it has no relation to FTP. FTPS is FTP over SSL and as far as I know has been completely supplanted by SFTP. FTP over SSH tunneling is a different thing entirely and is probably possible, but hard to set up due to FTP's insistence on using separate data and control connections. |
12:40 | <@simon> | also, none of those are very efficient file transfer protocols. |
12:42 | <&ToxicFrog> | IME, SFTP gets pretty close to line speed if the CPU on each end can keep up with encryption. |
12:42 | <@simon> | don't they use one connection per file? |
12:43 | <@simon> | so when you're transferring 30 million files, that bites you in the ass. |
12:43 | <@simon> | also, SFTP doesn't allow partial resumes, does it? |
12:44 | <@simon> | so for massive file transfers (large size or large quantities), I don't see anything good out there except BitTorrent and rsync. |
12:45 | <@simon> | also, I'd really like various filesystem-specific optimizations in clients. |
12:45 | | * simon has been migrating a lot of data at work and was annoyed by the quality of freely available solutions. (perhaps there are commercial products that excel.) |
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15:21 | <@Emmy> | McMartin: incidentally - i do know enough in linux to have a good desktop experience as well. |
15:21 | <@Emmy> | admittedly in debian/ubuntu/mint, but still :P |
15:21 | <@Emmy> | anyway |
15:21 | <@Emmy> | time to go |
15:24 | <@abudhabi> | Anyone here used Terraform? |
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15:31 | <@simon> | abudhabi, what is it? |
15:32 | <@abudhabi> | That's part of what I want to find out. |
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15:33 | <@abudhabi> | I think it's some form of versioning and deployment system. |
15:33 | <@abudhabi> | In this instanced, used with Amazon Web Services. |
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16:01 | | * catadroid wonders how common it is to apply for programming jobs without any public portfolio |
16:06 | <@Tarinaky> | Fairly common I think. |
16:07 | <@Tarinaky> | Particularly if you're already employed elsewhere. |
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21:33 | <&McMartin> | Man, they really did call 16.10 "Yakkety Yak" |
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23:18 | <~Vornicus> | ...nice |
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