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| 10:26 | <@abudhabi> | Are Docker and/or Terraform difficult to configure? |
| 10:27 | <~Vornicus> | I thought the whole point of docker was to be easy to configure |
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| 10:27 | <~Vornicus> | 'course, the moment somebody says "configure" I go running for the hills 'cause I don't want any part of that shit |
| 10:28 | <@abudhabi> | Vornicus: Well, I got a configuration task in response to a job application. I'm supposed to turn in some configuration files for these, according to some spec. (Haven't yet looked into it.) |
| 10:28 | <~Vornicus> | ah |
| 10:28 | <@abudhabi> | Seems a good way to weed complete illiterates out. |
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| 11:09 | | * TheWatcher pokes at Foundation |
| 11:09 | | * TheWatcher sighs |
| 11:10 | | * TheWatcher once again affirms his dislike of jquery |
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| 11:14 | <@abudhabi> | http://x3.cdn03.imgwykop.pl/c3201142/comment_0EjptZA2UZDOHswnWrgUswbyCNhbAg4A.jp g |
| 11:15 | <@TheWatcher> | Heh |
| 11:25 | <@abudhabi> | https://i.imgur.com/INBvStO.png |
| 11:27 | | * catadroid still wonders whether she's a good programmer despite having informed opinions on C++ standard minutiae |
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| 12:08 | <@abudhabi> | Hm. |
| 12:09 | | * abudhabi ducks himself. |
| 12:09 | <@abudhabi> | Thanks, #code! |
| 12:10 | <@abudhabi> | Didn't even get to finish writing my explanation. |
| 12:10 | <@Tamber> | You're welcome! |
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| 12:29 | < catadroid> | :) |
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| 14:42 | <@TheWatcher> | Ugh |
| 14:42 | <@TheWatcher> | I fucking hate trying to make shit work on both mobile and desktop browsers |
| 14:42 | <@TheWatcher> | Take all the problems of doing it for desktop, and square them. |
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| 17:02 | <&[R]> | <ankh> hahaha "Your membership in the mailing list Dbworld has been disabled due to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated 20-Jan-2009" (mail received today) |
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| 18:49 | <@Azash> | http://www.gwan.com/blog/20160405.html |
| 18:49 | <@Tamber> | "Unable to connect." |
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| 19:12 | <&[R]> | Same, unable to connect |
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| 20:33 | <@TheWatcher> | It's gwan away!~ |
| 20:33 | <@Tamber> | *grin* |
| 20:34 | < catalyst> | bwah? |
| 20:34 | <&[R]> | <Azash> http://www.gwan.com/blog/20160405.html |
| 20:34 | <&[R]> | <Tamber> "Unable to connect." |
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| 20:47 | <@Azash> | Don't know what to say, it's working perfectly here |
| 20:48 | <&[R]> | Is it your own host? |
| 20:48 | <&[R]> | server* |
| 20:49 | <@Tamber> | I can ping it just fine, but firefox won't connect to it. |
| 20:50 | <@Tamber> | Neither can elinks from my server. |
| 20:50 | <@Tamber> | http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.gwan.com |
| 20:51 | <@Azash> | Nope, not mine |
| 20:53 | <@Azash> | Here's a direct copy/paste of the page then https://paste.debian.net/873475/ |
| 20:53 | <@Tamber> | On the bright side, the page is in the gargle cache. |
| 20:53 | <@Azash> | Or rather https://paste.debian.net/plain/873475 |
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| 23:25 | <@simon> | is there a systematic way to estimate how hard a sudoku puzzle is? |
| 23:26 | <@simon> | that is, a way to reduce the complexity of the game tree into a single scalar. |
| 23:26 | <@simon> | of course there is. |
| 23:27 | <@simon> | (not as in: the answer is trivial. but as in: someone had to have made this.) |
| 23:27 | <&McMartin> | simon: It may actually still be a trade secret |
| 23:27 | <@simon> | https://www.technologyreview.com/s/428729/mathematics-of-sudoku-leads-to-richter -scale-of-puzzle-hardness/ |
| 23:28 | <&McMartin> | Sudoku in particular became a thing because someone managed to get an algorithm that could generate them not merely randomly but at any level of advancing difficulty |
| 23:28 | <@simon> | right |
| 23:29 | <&McMartin> | I think the metric I'd use would be (without checking that article) "number of constraints you have to simultaneously consider in order to execute a non-backtracking solution" |
| 23:30 | <@simon> | there's this very similar (equivalent, sort of) game called the zebra puzzle. it's basically constraint resolution. I once themed a single puzzle with a murder plot and my former roommate's friends spent a brief part of an afternoon figuring it out. I always wanted to make a murder puzzle generator, but have no clear idea of what a difficult puzzle is. |
| 23:30 | <&McMartin> | So in the simplest case, there is always at least one square that is completely constrained to a single answer |
| 23:30 | <@simon> | yeah... something about the least or the average bandwidth... |
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| 23:37 | <@simon> | maybe build a solver and record the least, the most and the average backtracking stack use. |
| 23:38 | <&[R]> | Build multiple solvers, report the mean steps taken? |
| 23:44 | <@simon> | yeah, that sounds simple. |
| 23:50 | <&[R]> | :p |
| 23:52 | <&McMartin> | A "proper" sudoku solver never backtracks, ever |
| 23:53 | <&McMartin> | Lazy and easy ones do, but that doesn't get you the difficulty scale that ANAICT are actually used for them |
| 23:53 | <&McMartin> | http://www.sudokuwiki.org/Jelly_Fish_Strategy |
| 23:53 | <&McMartin> | Difficulty 4 |
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