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| 01:09 | <@jeroud> | I use a Chrome extension called The Great Suspender to limit memory usage from inactive tabs. |
| 01:09 | <@jeroud> | It works pretty well. |
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| 04:06 | <@himi> | A ruby question! |
| 04:07 | <@himi> | I want to do this: (part1, part2, part3) = "part1/part2/part3".split(/\//) |
| 04:07 | <@himi> | Can I? |
| 04:07 | <@himi> | Or I guess safer to do .split(/\//, 3) |
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| 04:11 | <&Derakon> | I've never used Ruby, but something like those semantics would work in Perl. |
| 04:12 | <&Derakon> | I can never remember when you need to have parens in your unpacking and when you don't, though. |
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| 07:14 | <@himi> | I figured it out via the ruby REPL |
| 07:15 | <@himi> | part1, part2, part2 = "part1/part2/part3".split(/\//) does exactly what you'd expect |
| 07:21 | <~Vornicus> | i assume you mean part3 there |
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| 11:18 | <@abudhabi> | Am thinking of having a self-hosted email server. How much of a bother is that? |
| 11:21 | | * abudhabi is also thinking of something like a self-hosted cloud thingy. |
| 11:21 | <@abudhabi> | (Which would probably need a UPS and RAID setup at least.) |
| 11:27 | <@abudhabi> | (And a connection which is less shit than what I have.) |
| 11:33 | <@pjdelport> | abudhabi: Hosting your own email is a special kind of hell, probably. |
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| 11:41 | <~Vornicus> | no probably about it |
| 11:42 | < catadroid> | Today: debugging an issue without the mental energy to do so |
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| 12:00 | <@abudhabi> | catadroid: Sounds like my everyday. |
| 12:00 | <@abudhabi> | pjdelport, Vornicus: Right. I think I understand that part, given my experience with email so far. |
| 12:00 | <~Vornicus> | I'm currently in my 24th hour of being awake because deadline + 16 hours of ADD preventing any work from getting done |
| 12:13 | <&[R]> | My self-hosted email is simply: BIND + Postfix. |
| 12:13 | <&[R]> | I use SSH+mutt to read/send mail. |
| 12:16 | <@gnolam> | Hmm. There is a kind of perverse pleasure in knowing about standard usability paradigms but being able to ignore them because specialist application. |
| 12:18 | <&[R]> | Talking about my email setup? |
| 12:18 | <@gnolam> | Nope. Just musing to myself. |
| 12:18 | <&[R]> | Fair enough. |
| 12:19 | <~Vornicus> | on the other hand, magic is happening, so I've got that going for me, which is nice. |
| 12:20 | <@gnolam> | "What's that? Don't rely on color to convey a message? Haha, fuck you Nielsen, this is colorimetry!" |
| 12:35 | <@abudhabi> | [R]: How do you deal with blacklisting? |
| 12:35 | <&[R]> | I don't. |
| 12:36 | <&[R]> | I use my hosted mail for a few select things. |
| 12:36 | <@abudhabi> | OK. 'Cause my IP happens to be blacklisted (probably because it is residential), which is a problem I would have to deal with. |
| 12:38 | <&[R]> | Ah, VPS then |
| 12:38 | | * [R] has a static IP from his ISP |
| 12:39 | <&[R]> | I did setup that TXT record thing though. |
| 12:40 | <&[R]> | SPF |
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| 13:01 | <@abudhabi> | [R]: How would a VPS be helpful here? As a redirect of traffic? |
| 13:01 | <@abudhabi> | Or would the email receiver sit right there? |
| 13:01 | <@abudhabi> | (Well, sender. Whole package.) |
| 13:01 | <~Vornicus> | the receiver would sit there, presumably |
| 13:10 | <@abudhabi> | OK, but how secure is that? I mean, one could choose a hosting company more hostile to giving out customer information to the CIA/FBI/Burma-Vita than Google is. What else is there? |
| 13:25 | <&[R]> | If that's your concern, spend the extra money to get a static IP? |
| 13:27 | <@abudhabi> | May be a good idea. |
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| 15:08 | <~Vornicus> | css selector of the day: :empty |
| 15:09 | <@Azash> | https://twitter.com/tme_eu/status/744884925086654464 |
| 15:10 | <@Azash> | Meanwhile at client site |
| 15:10 | <@Azash> | Client manager: "One of the benefits here is flexible time so you can work less one day and more the other!" |
| 15:10 | <@Azash> | Client manager: "I see you only worked five hours on Monday. How come?" |
| 15:11 | <@gnolam> | Azash: >_< @ adapter |
| 15:11 | <@Azash> | gnolam: I know, I was shocked too |
| 15:11 | | * Azash leaves |
| 15:13 | <@gnolam> | (I didn't properly o_O until I got to https://twitter.com/eeroalk/status/745206535329026048 ) |
| 15:16 | <@Emmy> | It's just the company's way of implementing eugenics. |
| 15:16 | <@gnolam> | (I.e. even the "safe" configuration will have exposed leads - cleverly hidden underneath the thing so you won't even know you're in for a 230 V wakeup call until you try to pull it out of the socket) |
| 15:16 | <@Emmy> | Don't kill all the stupid people, just remove warning labels and safety measures! :P |
| 15:17 | <@gnolam> | This isn't a death trap for stupid people. This is just a death trap, period. |
| 15:17 | <@Azash> | gnolam: Also re. China Export |
| 15:18 | <@Azash> | This might be a good FYI |
| 15:18 | <@Azash> | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Comparison_of_two_used _CE_marks.svg/220px-Comparison_of_two_used_CE_marks.svg.png |
| 15:19 | <@gnolam> | ... did not know that, actually |
| 15:35 | <~Vornicus> | wow, that's |
| 15:35 | <~Vornicus> | blatant. |
| 15:36 | < catadroid`> | Oh |
| 15:36 | < catadroid`> | Turns out, right, that if you get the size of a base class incorrect then it tends to lead to you randomly writing into memory |
| 15:37 | < catadroid`> | Which is... somewhat of a challenge for the continued running of your program |
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| 15:40 | <~Vornicus> | ...yes |
| 15:44 | <@Emmy> | in that same vein: in VBA splitstuff = split("stuff to split", " ") will return splitstuff as an array (stuff, to, split) |
| 15:44 | <@Emmy> | logical, no? |
| 15:44 | <@Emmy> | except that normally you should dim values (and therefore, arrays) before using them |
| 15:45 | <@Emmy> | therefore, logically: |
| 15:45 | <@Emmy> | Dim splitstuff(0 to 2) as string |
| 15:45 | <@Emmy> | splitstuff = split("stuff to split", " ") |
| 15:45 | <@Emmy> | is what you would code. |
| 15:45 | <@Emmy> | NOT. |
| 15:46 | <@Emmy> | apparently split(...) is the one case where you CANNOT dim your output value before use. :S |
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