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| 00:57 | <@celticminstrel> | $ . |
| 00:57 | <@celticminstrel> | -bash: .: filename argument required |
| 00:57 | <@celticminstrel> | .: usage: . filename [arguments] |
| 00:57 | | * celticminstrel wonders what actually went on there. |
| 00:58 | <@Tamber> | I think it's shorthand for "source" |
| 00:58 | <@celticminstrel> | (Actual occurrence resulted from accidentally inserting a semicolon after the . in ./programname) |
| 00:58 | <@celticminstrel> | I'm just wondering what its error is actually trying to say and how it interpreted it. |
| 00:58 | <@Tamber> | Oh. |
| 00:59 | <&[R]> | celticminstrel: . is a command, it's an alias for source |
| 01:00 | <&[R]> | Most common usage: . ~/.bash_profile # after updating your bash profile without relogging. |
| 01:00 | <@celticminstrel> | Ohh, so if I wrote ". thing.sh" then it would execute thing.sh in the current environment or something? |
| 01:00 | <@celticminstrel> | I see. |
| 01:00 | <&[R]> | Yeah, AFAIK it's basically as if you ran all the commands in the sourced file in the current shell. |
| 01:01 | <@celticminstrel> | I've probably done this once or twice using the long-form "source", but I would never expect . to alias to that. |
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| 04:18 | <&Derakon> | Hahaha |
| 04:19 | <&Derakon> | % brew install tex |
| 04:19 | <&Derakon> | Installing TeX from source is weird and gross, requires a lot of patches, |
| 04:19 | <&Derakon> | and only builds 32-bit (and thus can't use Homebrew deps on Snow Leopard.) |
| 04:19 | <&Derakon> | We recommend using a MacTeX distribution: http://www.tug.org/mactex/ |
| 04:19 | <&Derakon> | (Homebrew is more or less a package manager for OSX; "brew" is the commandline program) |
| 04:41 | <&McMartin> | Yep |
| 04:41 | <&McMartin> | I'm not longer sure it's done me more good than harm, honestly :/ |
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| 04:43 | <&Derakon> | Homebrew or tex? |
| 04:47 | <&Derakon> | Honestly the only thing I use tex for these days is my resume, and that just because it's got nice blocks laid out and I just fill in the form, basically. |
| 04:48 | <&Derakon> | Also I don't have any Word-equivalent. |
| 05:05 | <&McMartin> | Homebrew |
| 05:09 | <&Derakon> | I've never really had problems with it. |
| 05:09 | <&Derakon> | Certainly better than trying to compile stuff from scratch! |
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| 05:24 | <@celticminstrel> | I still use MacPorts. |
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| 07:11 | <@himi> | TeX is best used via one of the LaTeX wrapping GUI front ends |
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| 08:45 | <@simon_> | I'm not sure I agree, but LyX is really nice. |
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| 10:34 | | * ErikMesoy realizes he's been using the constant wx.ID_NEW where he should have been calling wx.NewId() to get different ones, but fortunately it's been cancelled out by him also using a binding style where the IDs weren't actually used. |
| 10:35 | <@TheWatcher> | Totally planned~ |
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| 10:55 | <@Azash> | ErikMesoy: In our VTM game we refer to this as "falling upward" |
| 11:00 | <@abudhabi> | Flying? |
| 11:02 | <@Azash> | abudhabi: Prosperity through oops |
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| 12:18 | <@EmmY> | It's like how sometimes you realise you did something terribly bad and you might have ruined everything |
| 12:19 | <@EmmY> | But a bit i find out the damage has been limited a lot by one of my 'usually unnecessary' habits |
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| 16:19 | < catadroid> | ...I have discovered that I very much want to learn clojure |
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| 16:55 | < catadroid`> | I just had my mind blown by reducers |
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| 17:38 | <@simon_> | what are they? |
| 17:38 | <@simon_> | like, folds? |
| 17:40 | <@simon_> | I'm pretty blown away by transducers; http://elbenshira.com/blog/understanding-transducers/ |
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| 17:40 | <@simon_> | catadroid, -^ |
| 17:40 | <@simon_> | (forgot to highlight) |
| 17:44 | < catadroid> | Aye, folds as explained by Rich Hickey |
| 17:45 | < ToxicFrog> | simon_: a parallelizeable, composable generalization of fold, basically |
| 17:46 | < ToxicFrog> | http://clojure.org/reference/reducers and http://clojure.com/blog/2012/05/08/reducers-a-library-and-model-for-collection-p rocessing.html |
| 17:46 | < catadroid> | I'm pretty sure that transducers are the same concept with a different name |
| 17:46 | < catadroid> | After a scan of that post :) |
| 17:48 | < catadroid> | Also I'm near certain that my entire idea of what programing is has been turned on its head in the course of the past week |
| 17:50 | < ToxicFrog> | I'm honestly not sure what the distinction between reducers and transducers is, but I've never actually used either in the wild |
| 17:58 | <@simon_> | I guess 'reducer' is a little more ambiguous. I wouldn't normally assume that a reduce operation is associative or trivially parallellizable. |
| 17:58 | <&VirusJTG> | after reading that article, I'll stick with the hardware side and RF bands thanks. Besides some one has to be able to build and maintin the hardware to make that code work quickly :) |
| 18:00 | <&McMartin> | This is actually one of the cases where the hardware for making it work quickly looks different :) |
| 18:00 | <&VirusJTG> | oh, I know |
| 18:00 | <&VirusJTG> | and there in lies my challange :) |
| 18:00 | <&VirusJTG> | lays... |
| 18:00 | | * simon_ just realized after 1½ year of employment how vacations work. (not that I didn't vacation until now, but apparently not enough. I've got 18 workdays (~4 weeks) to spend!) |
| 18:00 | <&VirusJTG> | exists... |
| 18:01 | <@simon_> | all it took was to write my boss "Oh, by the way, I have no clue how vacation works." and he brought up I should check on this govt. website :P |
| 18:02 | <&McMartin> | I'm going to pretend this is an extremely stuffy and formal government website explaining How To Vacation |
| 18:03 | <&McMartin> | APPROVED PROCEDURE 473.8(a): GO SOMEWHERE NICE AND CONSUME ALCOHOL |
| 18:04 | <&VirusJTG> | ssnnrrkk |
| 18:04 | <@simon_> | Denmark is kind of bizarre in a lot of ways. as an employer you're required to pay money to this centrally controlled vacation account. as an employee you go there to release that money. if you forget it for two years, it just disappears. as you withdraw the money, they require that you fill in *when* you plan to go on vacation (i.e. spend it) and require that you sign that you're not on govt. welfare in that |
| 18:04 | <@simon_> | period. |
| 18:05 | <@simon_> | it seems like an odd communist relic. I have no idea why they won't just pay out money I earned so I can go on vacation. I think the argument is "the state has negotiated this money for you from private employers, so you should be happy you'll even get it!" |
| 18:07 | < ToxicFrog> | (The overall impression I have with transducers and reducers is "they're great for performance when operating on large data sets, but don't actually make the code any more simple or readable") |
| 18:08 | <@simon_> | ToxicFrog, right. |
| 18:08 | <@simon_> | ToxicFrog, that's my impression also. |
| 18:09 | <&McMartin> | simon_: That seems a lot more complicated than "you don't show up but your employer pays you anyway as specified in your employment contract" |
| 18:10 | <&McMartin> | It implies that there was some failure mode in that arrangement |
| 18:11 | <&McMartin> | Was "unemployment insurance" defined as not working as opposed to not being employed? |
| 18:14 | <@simon_> | McMartin, the money on that account are delayed by one year. so one might have changed jobs since earning it. and yeah, it is unnecessarily complicated. |
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| 18:16 | <@simon_> | some years ago, the tax office claimed I owed them $45.000 in unpaid taxes for a year I'd made $15.000. incidentally, on the day I went to talk to them, I was both unemployed *and* homeless. eventually they stopped claiming this. |
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| 21:22 | <&McMartin> | TIL C++11 has a symbol std::get_money |
| 21:23 | <~Vornicus> | wut |
| 21:24 | <&McMartin> | It's one of the I/O manipulators, I assume for localized currency formatting |
| 21:35 | <@Azash> | Yeah I recall that being heckled #elsewhere |
| 21:37 | <&McMartin> | Localization input is a scorpion's nest |
| 21:37 | <&McMartin> | I can't say I can heckle it |
| 21:39 | <@Tamber> | The one that does need heckling is its complementary function std::fuck_bitches. |
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| 23:27 | < catadroid`> | Gosh |
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