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| 03:01 | | * McMartin takes a break from rocking out to Amiga demos and hacking K&R C into ANSI C, goes to eat dinner and do laundry. |
| 03:01 | <&McMartin> | It's pretty much All The 90s in Chez McMartin tonight. |
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| 13:12 | < [R]> | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZapWc5UsAEDiEk.jpg |
| 13:23 | | * TheWatcher twitch |
| 13:26 | < catalyst> | :D |
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| 14:07 | <@gnolam> | [R]: ;_; |
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| 17:43 | < catalyst> | Anyone have suggestions for reading ext2 on windows 10? |
| 17:43 | <@Tamber> | "Cry" |
| 17:44 | | * catalyst tries ext2fsd |
| 17:44 | < [R]> | Does windows need to see the drive at all? |
| 17:45 | < [R]> | What kind of drive? |
| 17:45 | < [R]> | If USB, I strongly recomend VirtualBox with a Linux VM |
| 17:46 | < [R]> | The compatibility drivers seem to make Windows either: A) shit itself harder than it normally does for disk access B) Slow the fuck down until it's 1970 again. C) Shit all over the drive. |
| 17:47 | | * [R] tried a few a while back. Maybe they're better now? |
| 17:52 | < catalyst> | I want to copy data off it then zero it out and dispose of it |
| 17:54 | < [R]> | <[R]> Does windows need to see the drive at all? |
| 17:54 | < catalyst> | something needs to |
| 17:55 | < [R]> | Does Windows need to see any of the other partitions on the drive while you are reading the ExtFS partition? |
| 17:57 | < catalyst> | No, but it only has 2 ext3 partitions and a swap |
| 17:57 | < [R]> | I strongly recomend Linux VM then |
| 17:58 | < [R]> | Just one with KNOPPIX or similar will do (anything that comes with samba installed to get the files out of the VM) |
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| 21:04 | < abudhabi> | What's the type of cat5 cable that's more bendy and squishy called? |
| 21:05 | < [R]> | Non-standard? |
| 21:05 | < abudhabi> | I mean, some are pretty inflexible, but this type is wrapped in thin plastic and irregular in circumference, rather than thickly wrapped in circular plastic. |
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| 21:23 | < abudhabi> | Is 5mm the normal diameter of a cat5/cat5e cable? |
| 21:33 | | * abudhabi loves free international shipping. |
| 21:40 | <@gnolam> | Hong Kong? |
| 21:46 | < abudhabi> | Yes. |
| 21:49 | <@Reiv> | hong kong what |
| 21:49 | <@Tamber> | Phooey |
| 22:01 | <@gnolam> | AD was talking about electronics. He then mentioned free international shipping. I therefore deduced that he was buying stuff from Hong Kong. |
| 22:02 | < abudhabi> | And I was. |
| 22:02 | <@Reiv> | You can buy shit from Hong Kong? |
| 22:03 | <@Reiv> | Where do you find these parlours sir |
| 22:03 | < abudhabi> | ebay.com |
| 22:03 | <@gnolam> | eBay. |
| 22:03 | <@Reiv> | ahh |
| 22:03 | < abudhabi> | I save about 90% if I order from Hong Kong, compared to buying locally. |
| 22:03 | <@gnolam> | And they must all be members of Milo's Syndicate or something, because there's just no way they could make a profit selling shit at those prices with free international shipping otherwise. |
| 22:13 | < abudhabi> | gnolam: I believe the culprit is some international mail agreement or other, made a long time ago, which for some reason granted China free mail under some circumstances. If they ship it, it has to be delivered to the target country by mail carriers. |
| 22:13 | < abudhabi> | The carriers hate it. |
| 22:14 | < abudhabi> | Also China subsidizes it, too. |
| 22:17 | <@Reiv> | I vaugely recall that the postal systems changed a hundred years or so ago so that it was agreed everyone pays to post, and everyone carries the cost of delivery |
| 22:17 | <@Reiv> | At the time it was reasonable because net delivery flows were roughly even, so it simplified transportation |
| 22:18 | <@Reiv> | Of course, this was before globalisation led to specific countries being net exporters by considerable sums. |
| 22:18 | < abudhabi> | I *think* the way it works is China subsidizes posting, so it's free/nearly-free, and due to ancient rules, China don't actually pay market rate there. |
| 22:24 | <@Reiv> | Yeah, that makes sense |
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| 22:33 | <@Tamber> | https://github.com/chancancode/postcss-canadian-stylesheets |
| 22:51 | <@gnolam> | abudhabi, Reiv: ... makes sense. |
| 22:55 | <@gnolam> | Now I just need an explanation for why shipping from the US is so hideously expensive. |
| 22:55 | <@Reiv> | Because they're not using the postal service, but parcel service |
| 22:56 | <@Reiv> | And the USPS is subsisidising national postage (which has a powerful lobby believe it or not, direct marketers and amazon love them) by jacking up international fees, which don't affect the locals who vote |
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