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| 00:07 | < lolmrlol> | .chk 4445 |
| 00:08 | <~Vornicus> | wat |
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| 00:09 | <@Azash> | Probably wrong window, scraping for C&C or warez channels, or incompetent coding |
| 00:09 | <&McMartin> | Speaking of, I got my colortest program working on a real Atari 2600 |
| 00:09 | <&McMartin> | l33t w4rez omglol~ |
| 00:10 | | * McMartin will post photos later tonight |
| 00:10 | <@Azash> | ohdear |
| 00:10 | <&McMartin> | Also as a point of pride I included at least one display hack the NES cannot match~ |
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| 01:19 | < simon_> | I just found this neat Vim shortcut: {gq} (move to the start of the paragraph and word-wrap it until the end of the paragraph) |
| 01:19 | < simon_> | generally I've been "moving between paragraphs" ever since I migrated to Emacs, and I've never done it in Vim (possibly because searching has been so easy), but new habits grow on you. |
| 01:20 | <&Derakon> | simon: yeah, :gq so a good one. |
| 01:20 | <&Derakon> | Also, % takes you to the matching paren, curly, etc. |
| 01:22 | < simon_> | cool. |
| 01:24 | < simon_> | I've used vi/vim since 1998, and I still use it for quick edits and when editing things remotely. |
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| 02:56 | < Xon> | <froztbyte> https://technet.microsoft.com/library/security/ms14-066 |
| 02:56 | < Xon> | that is a horrible nasty bug |
| 03:19 | < simon_> | has anyone got an idea for NaNoGenMo 2014? |
| 03:20 | < simon_> | https://github.com/dariusk/NaNoGenMo-2014 |
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| 08:54 | <@Julius> | Googling suggests that the smallest screen width I should care about when designing websites is 320px. |
| 08:55 | <@Julius> | Is this true? |
| 08:57 | < AverageJoe> | for phones |
| 08:57 | < AverageJoe> | yeah |
| 08:58 | < AverageJoe> | you'd be hard pressed to find a desktop running anything less than 1024x768 |
| 08:58 | < AverageJoe> | fuck, even 16 bit color mode on xp only went down to 640x480 |
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| 09:54 | <@Tarinaky> | Commet landing today at 1600Z right? |
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| 09:56 | <@TheWatcher> | Tarinaky: approximately, yes |
| 10:06 | <@Tarinaky> | Ossum |
| 10:23 | <@Tarinaky> | Umm... Ruby problem. |
| 10:23 | <@Tarinaky> | How do I compare a fixnum with nil in such a way that 0 != nil? |
| 10:23 | <@Tarinaky> | i.e. I have something which /might/ be a fixnum. |
| 10:24 | <@Tarinaky> | And 0 is a valid result. |
| 10:25 | <@Tarinaky> | Oh wait, nm, I found the bug. |
| 10:25 | <@Tarinaky> | Or I didn't... |
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| 12:20 | | * Tarinaky successfully ended up as the first person to break the build. |
| 12:20 | <@Tarinaky> | Whoops. |
| 12:27 | <@Julius> | Now commit it. |
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| 13:13 | <@Julius> | Is having input boxes resizing with the size of their container some kind of ancient, unfixed problem with HTML/CSS? |
| 13:13 | <@Julius> | Because all of these solutions I'm finding are quite involved for something so simple. |
| 13:50 | < RchrdB> | I think it might be. |
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| 14:34 | <@Tarinaky> | Argh, I can't find out if it's 1600Z or 1600Z+1 |
| 14:34 | <@Tarinaky> | FFF |
| 14:34 | <@Tarinaky> | Why are these things never easy to find :/ |
| 14:36 | <@Tarinaky> | Ahah! 16:00Z |
| 14:36 | <@Tarinaky> | Okay. |
| 15:24 | <@iospace> | why do plumbers make good bash scripters? |
| 15:24 | <@TheWatcher> | All the pipework involved. |
| 15:25 | <@iospace> | indeed! |
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| 15:54 | | * ToxicFrog eyes the fuck out of DoomRL. Even when nothing is happening, it's constantly spamming cursor positioning commands, making it extremely hard to ttyrec. |
| 15:55 | < RchrdB> | You could make a ttyrec compressor :) |
| 15:57 | <@Azash> | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/11/microsoft-open-sources-net -takes-it-to-linux-and-os-x/ |
| 15:58 | < RchrdB> | It's not April 1st. |
| 15:58 | < RchrdB> | Is it Christmas? |
| 15:59 | <@Tarinaky> | Almost. |
| 15:59 | < RchrdB> | Wow that sounds awesome. |
| 15:59 | <@Tarinaky> | Late November |
| 15:59 | <@TheWatcher> | 'The company is working with the Mono community to make sure that this platform is "enterprise-ready."' |
| 15:59 | <@TheWatcher> | Wow |
| 15:59 | <@TheWatcher> | I actually feel sorry for Microsoft~ |
| 16:00 | <&ToxicFrog> | RchrdB: one exists, it's called bzip2 |
| 16:00 | <&ToxicFrog> | I am actually considering writing something that will read the ttyrec and strip out all this useless garbage. |
| 16:00 | < RchrdB> | If that means "enterprise-ready" in the same sense that RHEL is "RH Enterprise Linux" then no worries, that just means "gets regular security but not functionality updates through 'yum update'." |
| 16:00 | <&ToxicFrog> | Although files for games in progress could get really large. |
| 16:01 | < RchrdB> | ToxicFrog: you know what I mean; read the ttyrec file, apply it to a simulated vt100 in memory, emit an equivalent, shorter set of vt100 commands... |
| 16:01 | < RchrdB> | ncurses more or less does this already, I think? |
| 16:02 | <@Tarinaky> | ttyrec? |
| 16:02 | < RchrdB> | Tarinaky: records a terminal session and plays it back. |
| 16:03 | <&ToxicFrog> | RchrdB: yeah no |
| 16:03 | <&ToxicFrog> | (and no it doesn't) |
| 16:03 | < RchrdB> | Azash: that's really awesome; so by sometime next year, I could in theory quite happily get an expensive Windows workstation with an expensive copy of Visual Studio on it, develop in F# and deploy on Linux. |
| 16:04 | < RchrdB> | ToxicFrog: uh? "ttyrec: a TTY recorder". |
| 16:04 | <&ToxicFrog> | RchrdB: I mean your comment about ncurses. |
| 16:06 | < RchrdB> | ncurses turns alterations to a text framebuffer into sequences of vt100 commands, no? |
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| 17:08 | <&ToxicFrog> | Original ttyrec: 8.3MB |
| 17:09 | <&ToxicFrog> | stripped ttyrec: 170k. Has some minor graphical glitches, though. |
| 17:27 | | * Azash rediscovers the handbook of applied cryptography |
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| 18:52 | <&ToxicFrog> | fuck python's struct module right in the eye |
| 18:53 | <@gnolam> | ? |
| 18:53 | <@iospace> | tell us how you really feel there TF |
| 18:55 | <&ToxicFrog> | gnolam: it's missing a bunch of common formats like length-prefixed strings, but the real problem is that it's tied to C types |
| 18:55 | <&ToxicFrog> | You want a 4-byte integer? No, fuck you, you get whatever "int" is on the system python was compiled on. Hope it's 32 bits! |
| 19:18 | < Lamabo> | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1357110/misc/uniformcpu.png <----hnnnnnnnnnnggggg working load balancing across 10 instances |
| 19:18 | < Lamabo> | using a message queue |
| 19:19 | | * iospace renames Lamabo to lambo |
| 19:19 | <@iospace> | :P |
| 20:02 | <@froztbyte> | ToxicFrog: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/construct |
| 20:02 | <@froztbyte> | it was a nicer experience than struct |
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| 20:31 | <@iospace> | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/12/google_steps_in_to_protect_poor_ickle_eu ropeans_from_big_bad_nsa_spying/ |
| 20:32 | <&McMartin> | "Emptying the battery pack is the only AA release available for Xbone at the moment" |
| 20:33 | | * iospace groans |
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| 21:02 | < lolmrlol> | how to conect to crimeirc |
| 21:03 | <@Tamber> | Use CrimeIRCC. |
| 21:05 | <@iospace> | why are you asking here? |
| 21:05 | <@iospace> | o: |
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| 21:11 | <@Tamber> | o.รด |
| 21:15 | < lolmrlol> | crimeircc. |
| 21:19 | < Lambo> | r u a witch? |
| 21:22 | < lolmrlol> | yh bro |
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| 21:26 | <@Tamber> | *shrug* |
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| 21:38 | <@celticminstrel> | ... |
| 21:55 | <&ToxicFrog> | ... |
| 21:56 | <&McMartin> | Not his first appearance. |
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| 22:05 | <@[R]> | Clearly it's crimeirc.net |
| 22:06 | <@[R]> | ... which is not available for sale. |
| 22:07 | <&McMartin> | Crime is everywhere. |
| 22:07 | <&McMartin> | Crime, crime. |
| 22:09 | <@Tamber> | R: Nah, it's better-hidden than that. Which is why you need to use the crimeIRC client. CrimeIRCC. It's pre-set. *nods sagely* |
| 22:12 | <@[R]> | Oh... it's held by domainnamesales.com |
| 22:12 | <@[R]> | Yay... |
| 22:16 | <@Julius> | WTF ebay seller? Why is your email address under "catsuits-latex.com"? You sell computer parts! |
| 22:16 | <&McMartin> | diversification, clearly |
| 22:17 | <@Tamber> | Geeks and latex catsuits clearly go well together. |
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| 22:47 | <&McMartin> | Zelda-related silliness: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=138575953&postcount=41 |
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| 22:56 | <@macdjord> | McMartin: So they lost the soure to the game while producing the game, and had to reverse-engineer it to finish it? |
| 22:57 | <&McMartin> | People keep forgetting that source control wasn't actually widely available until this century. Even in the *late* 90s you needed a UNIX shop to have reliable access to it, and "it" was generally CVS. |
| 22:57 | <&McMartin> | If you were one of those companies like Infocom or LucasArts that did their devwork on minicomputers, then your stuff was largely preserved, but that was Not Many Companies because minicomputers are kind of expensive. |
| 23:08 | <@macdjord> | I recall reading that during the making of Toy Story, they accidentally erased their entire work to date halfway through. They movie was only saved because one of the animators had taken a copy home with her to work on while watching her kids. |
| 23:27 | | * gnolam o_Os. |
| 23:27 | <@gnolam> | Having actually used RCS and it being the oldest source control system I know of, I looked it up on Wikipedia. |
| 23:28 | <@gnolam> | Initial release 1982; 32 years ago |
| 23:28 | <@gnolam> | Stable release 5.9.3 (September 17, 2014; 56 days ago |
| 23:28 | <@gnolam> | They're... still updating it. |
| 23:29 | <&McMartin> | That's about six years more recently than CVS's latest stable release |
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