| --- Log opened Sat Nov 01 00:00:46 2014 |
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| 00:43 | <@gizmore> | oh wait ... i got ops, and my bot re-joined |
| 00:43 | <@gizmore> | i assume my bot rejoined after the netsplit, is it ok to have it here? |
| 00:44 | <@[R]> | It was kicked not banned |
| 00:44 | <@gizmore> | that explains it |
| 00:44 | <@gizmore> | so... keep it here? whom do i ask? |
| 00:44 | <@[R]> | Just make sure it's not going to dump unwanted stuff in here |
| 00:44 | <@[R]> | Probably Vorn |
| 00:44 | <@gizmore> | [R]: did i show you the super password already? |
| 00:44 | <@[R]> | Nope |
| 00:46 | <@gizmore> | seen #shadowlamb ? |
| 00:49 | <@gizmore> | .slap [R] |
| 00:49 | < Lamb3_1> | gizmore: gizmore ruthlessly debugs [RÂ] with a drooling eel. (11 damage). |
| 01:22 | | * Alek slaps gizmore around a bit with a large blue whale. |
| 01:23 | <@gizmore> | .slap al |
| 01:23 | < Lamb3_1> | gizmore: gizmore quickly combats Îlek with a dangerous space station. (444 damage). |
| 01:23 | <@gizmore> | notice the non-highlight obfuscation |
| 01:23 | <@gizmore> | the plugin can be disabled with .disable slap or .disable Slapwarz |
| 01:23 | <@gizmore> | peope can be "banned" for the bot with .bot <user> 1 |
| 01:24 | <@gizmore> | what i wanna say: we can configure lamb to be of use |
| 01:24 | | * Alek slaps gizmore around a bit with a large armored brittlestar. |
| 01:24 | <@gizmore> | .en-de Alek slaps gizmore around a bit with a large armored brittlestar. |
| 01:24 | < Lamb3_1> | gizmore: Translation: Â Alek ohrfeigt Gizmore ein bisschen herum mit einer groĂen Panzer brittlestar. |
| 01:24 | <@gizmore> | .disable Shadowlamb |
| 01:24 | < Lamb3_1> | gizmore: You need Staff permissions to do that. |
| 01:24 | | * Alek snerks. |
| 01:25 | | Lamb3_1 is now known as Lamb3 |
| 01:25 | <@gizmore> | .disable Shadowlamb |
| 01:25 | < Lamb3> | gizmore: The Shadowlamb module has been disabled in 48-nightstar.net#code |
| 01:25 | <@gizmore> | .log off |
| 01:25 | <@gizmore> | .log |
| 01:25 | < Lamb3> | gizmore: This channel has set it´s logging to explicit disabled. |
| 01:25 | < Lamb3> | gizmore: This server has set it´s logging to explicit enabled. |
| 01:25 | <@gizmore> | .help |
| 01:26 | <@gizmore> | .utf2hex ö |
| 01:26 | < Lamb3> | gizmore: c3b6 |
| 01:26 | <&ToxicFrog> | Please test your bot in a different channel. |
| 01:27 | <@gizmore> | i am not testing that deprecated php bothead |
| 01:27 | <@gizmore> | i am showing it could be useful |
| 01:27 | <@gizmore> | and i wanna ask if you wanna keep it here, or not |
| 01:28 | <@gizmore> | it is configureable, you guys can have admin powers. just asking if it´s wanted/tolerated |
| 01:28 | <@gizmore> | and good evening ToxicFrog :) |
| 01:29 | <@gizmore> | also i disabled logging and some mud module you don´t want here for sure |
| 01:29 | <&ToxicFrog> | Personally, I don't see a use case for it apart from logging, which I believe we already have -- but it's Vornicus's channel. |
| 01:29 | | * ToxicFrog shoves Vornicus into the static type checker to get his attention |
| 01:30 | <&McMartin> | Not a fan of using #code as a test bed; it damages the S/N |
| 01:30 | <@gizmore> | it´s stable |
| 01:30 | <@Alek> | now if you could get it to DM, #dnd might want it. |
| 01:31 | <@gizmore> | DM? |
| 01:31 | <@Alek> | Dungeon Master |
| 01:31 | <@Alek> | run RPG campaigns |
| 01:31 | <@gizmore> | it has an own rpg |
| 01:31 | <@gizmore> | but thanks |
| 01:31 | <@gizmore> | i will choke the chickens up there! |
| 01:31 | <@gizmore> | btw... do you know DungeonMaster from FTL? |
| 01:32 | <@gizmore> | 1992 iirc |
| 01:32 | <@gizmore> | Amiga RPG |
| 01:33 | <&McMartin> | More than Amiga |
| 01:34 | <&McMartin> | Wow, *lots* more than Amiga |
| 01:34 | <&McMartin> | Doug Bell. |
| 01:36 | <&ToxicFrog> | Alek: I thought #dnd had Schlock or some other similar bot? |
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| 01:45 | <~Vornicus> | ??? |
| 01:45 | | * Vornicus is of type Vornicus |
| 01:46 | <~Vornicus> | Sigh |
| 01:46 | <~Vornicus> | Okay, 1. if we needed a bot we'd already have one, the channel is literally a decade old by now |
| 01:46 | <~Vornicus> | 2. who the heck gave the newbie ops |
| 01:47 | | mode/#code [-o gizmore] by Vornicus |
| 01:47 | < gizmore> | .part |
| 01:47 | < Lamb3> | gizmore: I am leaving 48-nightstar.net#code now, and won´t come back on my own. |
| 01:47 | | Lamb3 [Dawg@Nightstar-ic1o9q.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has left #code [] |
| 01:47 | < gizmore> | Vornicus: thanks to settle the "lamb allowed" question |
| 01:48 | | mode/#code [+ooooooo abudhabi Attilla Syka Turaiel VirusJTG Xires Xon] by Vornicus |
| 01:48 | <~Vornicus> | Idunno those others |
| 01:48 | < gizmore> | i am Christian, 33y from germany, my most known project is https://www.wechall.net |
| 01:49 | < gizmore> | i am a codemonkey, currently ruby and js, and quite an irc addict |
| 01:49 | < gizmore> | althought i know quite some security basics, people often think i am a hacker/cracker, which i am not |
| 01:49 | < gizmore> | i just enjoy coding and complex systems |
| 01:50 | < gizmore> | oh, and i like teaching, chatting and learning :) |
| 01:50 | < gizmore> | nice to meet you |
| 01:51 | < gizmore> | btw... where are you guys from, timezone wise? |
| 01:51 | < gizmore> | mixed? |
| 01:52 | | * Vornicus counts countries, gets around a dozen |
| 01:52 | < gizmore> | fun fact: china has only one timezone |
| 01:52 | < gizmore> | huge country, one timezone... quite fun fact |
| 01:59 | < gizmore> | Vornicus: you don´t even have rss feed updates here for... euh... dunno... err... nvm |
| 02:00 | < gizmore> | another fun fact: i lost $100 once because someone cracked my bot´s rand() implementation - it was a challenge |
| 02:27 | <@Alek> | TF: Schlock is dead, and he was a dicebot anyway, not a DMbot. |
| 02:29 | <@Alek> | gizmore: and Russia has only 3, down from 7 or 8, down from 11, iirc. |
| 02:29 | <@Alek> | also, any relation to gizmodo? |
| 02:32 | < gizmore> | nope, not affiliated to gizmodo |
| 02:32 | < gizmore> | not sure if they stole my nick |
| 02:32 | < gizmore> | i am gizmore since 2005 maybe |
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| 02:45 | <@celticminstrel> | What's the best way to reapply proper prototypes to parsed JSON? (This is in JavaScript.) Currently I'm assigning to __proto__; is using an "extend" function the only other way? |
| 02:46 | <&ToxicFrog> | Alek: welp, shows how much attention I've been paying to #dnd |
| 02:47 | < gizmore> | celticminstrel: i think "foo.prototype = bar" extends, ... something along these lines |
| 02:48 | < gizmore> | celticminstrel: i am not sure you should extend a parsed json string though... nice question |
| 02:48 | <@celticminstrel> | Well, parsed JSON gives an object. |
| 02:48 | <@celticminstrel> | But it has no prototype. |
| 02:48 | < gizmore> | which is "Object" yeah |
| 02:48 | <@celticminstrel> | I need it to have a particular prototype. |
| 02:48 | <@celticminstrel> | Yeah. |
| 02:49 | < gizmore> | how about making it like this: |
| 02:49 | < gizmore> | function MyClass |
| 02:49 | < gizmore> | myclass = new MyClass |
| 02:49 | < gizmore> | myclass.prototype = myparsedstuff |
| 02:49 | < gizmore> | or something like this |
| 02:49 | < gizmore> | like extending some "class" with your parsed data |
| 02:49 | < gizmore> | not the other way roun |
| 02:50 | < gizmore> | you get the idea? |
| 02:50 | <@celticminstrel> | I think that's what I did for the cases where there's no constructor function to use. |
| 02:51 | < gizmore> | "inheritance" from scratch is weird in js |
| 02:51 | < gizmore> | not much memories there |
| 02:51 | <@celticminstrel> | Objects that were created by clone(), which is basically function Clone() {}; function clone(obj) {Clone.prototype = obj;return new Clone();} |
| 02:52 | <@celticminstrel> | They keep track of a key that can be used to look up the object they were cloned from, so I redo the clone, then use $.extend. |
| 02:53 | <@celticminstrel> | Presumably that would work just as well when there is a constructor, eg x = clone(Ctor.prototype); $.extend(x, data) |
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| 02:54 | < gizmore> | thats jquery |
| 02:54 | <@celticminstrel> | Yes, but that's a minor detail, and the extend function isn't hard to implement yourself. |
| 02:54 | < gizmore> | probably there is something nice in jquery already, for that case |
| 02:54 | < gizmore> | ah i see |
| 02:55 | <@celticminstrel> | Actually it looks like there's an Object.extend; I don't know if I had a reason for not using it (it's possible I did). |
| 02:55 | < gizmore> | :) |
| 02:56 | <@celticminstrel> | I was mostly wondering if there's a way that doesn't involve extend. |
| 02:56 | < gizmore> | well |
| 02:56 | < gizmore> | you parse json into an object |
| 02:56 | < gizmore> | it has no funcs |
| 02:56 | < gizmore> | you either extend the object (ouch) |
| 02:56 | <~Vornicus> | TF: Schlock disappeared around the same time as Pi |
| 02:56 | < gizmore> | or you extend some object by the json (ouch) |
| 02:56 | <~Vornicus> | (seeing as, you knwo, he was Pi's bot) |
| 02:57 | <@celticminstrel> | So basically, you're saying that there probably isn't another (standard) way. |
| 02:57 | < gizmore> | celticminstrel: yeah, you either extend a new object (ouch) or your json object (ouch) |
| 02:57 | < gizmore> | another way is to create an object with your json as param (ouch) |
| 02:57 | < gizmore> | all is not very nice... you can choose |
| 02:58 | < gizmore> | i am currently using "dojo", and using the 3rd way - have a class manage the json as a param |
| 02:58 | < gizmore> | actually it does extend the object like way 1 or 2 |
| 02:58 | < gizmore> | so there is no other way than 1 or 2 ... or 3 (more ouch) |
| 02:59 | < gizmore> | my dojo way is json as param, then use 1 or 2 |
| 02:59 | <@celticminstrel> | For me, 3 would be the same as 1. |
| 02:59 | < gizmore> | exactly :) |
| 02:59 | <@Alek> | TF: and schlock was originally from a different channel, wasn't he? just on loan to #dnd and any other channel that needed dice. |
| 02:59 | <@celticminstrel> | Since the set of attributes on the object is unknown. |
| 03:03 | <~Vornicus> | javascript isn't really, uh, built for certain things. Like, it doesn't have a built-in import |
| 03:10 | < gizmore> | Vornicus: node.js has |
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| 06:06 | < Lambo> | I knew it |
| 06:06 | < Lambo> | I knew Amazon had a feature the same as the new Azure Event Hubs |
| 06:06 | < Lambo> | http://aws.amazon.com/kinesis/details/ v http://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/event-hubs/ |
| 06:06 | < Lambo> | ahaha what |
| 06:07 | < Lambo> | they cost the same |
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| 09:44 | <@abudhabi> | ... |
| 09:45 | <@abudhabi> | Google Docs doesn't seem to support old-style copy/cut/past keyboard shortcuts. |
| 09:45 | <@abudhabi> | +e |
| 10:24 | <@[R]> | Depends on the browser I think |
| 10:28 | <@froztbyte> | it's also pretty fragile |
| 10:28 | <@froztbyte> | sometimes it just doesn't work |
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| 13:12 | <&ToxicFrog> | abudhabi: works for me |
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| 13:14 | <@abudhabi> | WTF. It works now, after a restart. |
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| 13:27 | <@froztbyte> | like I said, fragile |
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| 17:04 | <@abudhabi> | Hmm. Total fragmentation 37%, file fragmentation 73%, free space fragmentation 2%. |
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| 17:06 | <@abudhabi> | I think I might need to defragment. |
| 17:12 | <@Attilla> | i keep wanting to defragment but having no fragmentation to speak of |
| 17:12 | <@Attilla> | it's odd |
| 17:12 | <@Attilla> | i guess win7 is really optimised? |
| 17:13 | <@abudhabi> | When have you last wiped the drive? |
| 17:13 | <@Attilla> | never, i've never wiped the drive |
| 17:13 | <@abudhabi> | How long have you had it? |
| 17:14 | <@abudhabi> | This WinXP install of mine remembers my mid-Uni years. Probably something like 6-8 years of use. |
| 17:14 | <@Attilla> | for a couple of years |
| 17:14 | <@Attilla> | since about june 2012 |
| 17:15 | <@Attilla> | i remember the terrifying days of win95 and how it'd unravel itself over time, on its own |
| 17:16 | | * abudhabi uses SpaceSniffer to find out where all his space went, because defragging apparently needs 15% to work with. |
| 17:17 | <@froztbyte> | man |
| 17:17 | <@froztbyte> | I do /not/ miss having those kinds of problems |
| 17:17 | <@abudhabi> | 3.2GB of DogeCoin data. But I uninstalled that! I think. |
| 17:17 | <@Attilla> | dogecoins are eternal |
| 17:18 | <@Attilla> | oho, 2% fragmented |
| 17:18 | <@froztbyte> | abudhabi: probably the blockchain hanging around in your user folder |
| 17:18 | <@Attilla> | i could defragment it now if i wanted to |
| 17:18 | <@Attilla> | but i probably don't |
| 17:18 | <@Attilla> | maybe while i'm at work |
| 17:19 | | * abudhabi removes that with great prejudice. |
| 17:19 | <@froztbyte> | is running a defrag while you attempt to use the machine still horribly painful on windows? |
| 17:19 | <@abudhabi> | Hmm. 8 GB of dropbox. Not surprising. |
| 17:19 | <@abudhabi> | froztbyte: I don't know. I will find out! |
| 17:20 | <@Attilla> | i am assuming that but i don't know |
| 17:20 | <@Attilla> | it's been so long |
| 17:21 | <@abudhabi> | Why is Chrome data, which I don't use daily, take up 700+ MB? Well, I'm going to clean that up. |
| 17:22 | <@Attilla> | browsers are terribly made, even good ones are terribly made |
| 17:22 | <@Attilla> | it's bewildering |
| 17:24 | <@froztbyte> | well, like |
| 17:24 | <@Attilla> | until i have more evidence i'll have to assume they're difficult to make |
| 17:24 | <@froztbyte> | it's people who suddenly found themselves having to write an OS |
| 17:24 | <@froztbyte> | not quite in the same way as other OSs, but basically |
| 17:24 | <@froztbyte> | did you know things like webusb exist? |
| 17:25 | <@abudhabi> | Webusb? Does it do what it says on the tin? |
| 17:25 | <@froztbyte> | yup |
| 17:25 | <@froztbyte> | mostly |
| 17:25 | <@abudhabi> | why.jpg |
| 17:27 | <@froztbyte> | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1065729 / https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=674718 / https://www.yubico.com/products/yubikey-hardware/fido-u2f-security-key/ |
| 17:37 | <@abudhabi> | Hmm. Should probably schedule a disk check, too. My system disk reports more space being free than there is. |
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| 20:21 | <@abudhabi> | The defragging gave up a 32%. |
| 20:21 | <@abudhabi> | But fragmentation went down to 20ish%. I'll run it again when I go to sleep. |
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