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| 01:22 | <@celticminstrel> | I'm guessing my message never got through, but fortunately I solved it on my own. |
| 01:25 | <&McMartin> | Yeah, I don't see anything recent from you in this channel. |
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| 01:48 | <@celticminstrel> | Hm, doing "intVal == TRUE" when intVal can be 0, 1, or 2 would probably only be true if it's 1, right? Since C has no boolean type. |
| 01:49 | <@celticminstrel> | Though I wonder if that was the intention here. |
| 02:04 | <~Vornicus> | Oh that's a bug waiting to jump on you and eat your face |
| 02:04 | <@celticminstrel> | I was thinking it might be, yes. For now I've annotated it with a TODO. I have no idea what the intended behaviour was right now; actually, I'm not even quite sure what the semantic meaning of the variable is. |
| 02:05 | <~Vornicus> | ...is "intVal" the name of the variable? |
| 02:06 | <@celticminstrel> | The variable is actually called active_only. |
| 02:06 | <@celticminstrel> | But it's not entirely clear what is meant by "active". |
| 02:07 | <@celticminstrel> | Plus when it's set to 2 the meaning seems unrelated to when it's set to 0 or 1. |
| 02:08 | <@celticminstrel> | Actually, come to think of it, it's never set to 2, so it must be a relic of something. |
| 02:09 | <@celticminstrel> | The function is always called with 0 or 1. |
| 02:09 | <@celticminstrel> | Oh, wait, there's one way it might not be. |
| 02:10 | <@celticminstrel> | Nope. |
| 02:14 | <&ToxicFrog> | celticminstrel: in C, any nonzero is true |
| 02:14 | <@celticminstrel> | But not when used in == |
| 02:14 | <&ToxicFrog> | Oh, I read that as =. Oops. |
| 02:14 | <@celticminstrel> | Only if used in if(), while(), for(). |
| 02:14 | <&ToxicFrog> | == true is a codesmell. |
| 02:15 | <@celticminstrel> | I had changed it to "true" at one point, which presumably would've coerced the variable to boolean first. |
| 02:15 | <@celticminstrel> | Yeah, == true and == false is littered through this code for some reason. |
| 02:15 | <@celticminstrel> | Maybe because booleans were typedefed as char or something. |
| 02:15 | <~Vornicus> | http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/What_Is_Truth_0x3f_.aspx |
| 02:16 | <@celticminstrel> | XD |
| 02:17 | <&McMartin> | It occurs to me that digital logic outputs have three states: low, high, and "high-impedance" |
| 02:17 | <&McMartin> | That's pretty close to FALSE, TRUE, FILE_NOT_FOUND |
| 02:20 | <@celticminstrel> | This code also has a really weird indentation practice. |
| 02:21 | <@celticminstrel> | Closin braces are indented level with the code block the close, and else's are indented level with the code in the if block, with their contents indented an additional level. |
| 02:21 | <@celticminstrel> | ^Closing |
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| 05:01 | | * McMartin commits about ten thousand lines of deletions to this code base. |
| 05:01 | <&McMartin> | A fine payment against the technical debt load, imo. |
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| 05:02 | <@celticminstrel> | Heh. |
| 05:02 | <@celticminstrel> | I'm deleting a lot of code here too... |
| 05:03 | <&McMartin> | Unfortunately, one of the classes I had hoped to eradicate has a dependency-injection like thing going on so I can't be sure it's not still being used in important places - and I strongly suspect at least one very important workflow is still using it |
| 05:03 | <@celticminstrel> | Uh, okay... |
| 05:03 | <&McMartin> | So that one I stuck log lines to so I can see when it happens, and maybe put debug breakpoints there. |
| 05:04 | <&McMartin> | (This codebase has evolved, um, "organically" for about a decade. I am finally in a position where I can start to impose a Grim Unifying Vision upon much of the internals.) |
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| 05:15 | <@celticminstrel> | It's always nice when I decide I need to write a function and then discover it's already been done. |
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| 09:48 | < AnnoDomini> | Any reason why a DVD drive would work fine, but would not allow booting from? |
| 09:48 | < AnnoDomini> | I try to boot from a CD, and the reading LED doesn't even flash. |
| 09:49 | < AnnoDomini> | When I'm using it from Win7 on the same box, it works fine. |
| 10:06 | <@TheWatcher> | Does the drive show any activity between power on/reset and finishing POST? |
| 10:06 | <@TheWatcher> | If it does, but doesn't boot, check the BIOS is actually set to even try booting from it |
| 10:08 | < AnnoDomini> | It flashes and makes a noise after startup before the BIOS splash screen is shown. I have set the BIOS options so that it is to be booted. |
| 10:09 | <@TheWatcher> | And does the dvd drive have a higher proprity than the hd? |
| 10:09 | <@TheWatcher> | *priority |
| 10:12 | < AnnoDomini> | Yes. |
| 10:13 | < AnnoDomini> | When I try to boot it from the F12 menu, it says "Selected boot device not available". |
| 10:16 | < AnnoDomini> | Under device listing, the HDD is on SATA-0, and the DVD is on PATA-2. |
| 10:18 | <@TheWatcher> | That's.. uh. |
| 10:19 | <@TheWatcher> | Is the DVd drive shown as slave on the IDE list, and does it have a master? |
| 10:19 | < AnnoDomini> | PATA-2 (IDE2 Master). |
| 10:20 | <@TheWatcher> | Right, I got nothin, then :/ |
| 10:21 | < AnnoDomini> | I'm going to try to connect it to IDE1 and see what that does. |
| 10:22 | < AnnoDomini> | Nothing, apparently |
| 10:24 | < AnnoDomini> | I'll try using a USB image and boot from a memory stick. |
| 10:30 | < AnnoDomini> | Same deal with the USB. |
| 10:33 | < AnnoDomini> | Hmm. I have an Intel Xeon CPU and the Win7 on it is a 64 bit version. So if there's a choice of distributions, I should aim for the ia64 version, yes? |
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| 11:03 | <@TheWatcher> | No |
| 11:03 | <@TheWatcher> | Use amd64. IA64 is specifically for Itanium processors |
| 11:07 | < AnnoDomini> | OK. |
| 11:07 | < AnnoDomini> | That might be why it wasn't working. |
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| 13:46 | <@Azash> | What's this do in python? |
| 13:46 | <@Azash> | [foo for foo in bar if foo not in baz if not foo.bool] |
| 13:47 | <@Azash> | Is it just a filter on bar? |
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| 13:51 | < Syk> | wut. |
| 13:52 | < Syk> | who wrote that |
| 13:52 | < Syk> | you should go punch them |
| 13:56 | < Erik> | I believe the classic "Make me angry." response is in order here |
| 13:56 | < Erik> | It looks like a filter, yes |
| 13:58 | < Erik> | [foo for foo in range(20) if foo not in (3,4) if not (foo%2==0)] winds up returning [1, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 17, 19] |
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| 14:09 | <@Azash> | Erik: Cheers |
| 14:11 | < Erik> | Azash: cheer for the IDLE, not me |
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| 14:17 | <@Azash> | IDLE? |
| 14:17 | <@Azash> | I'm not too skeptical of Monty Python writing this code |
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| 14:26 | < Erik> | IDLE is the IDE that Python usually comes with. |
| 14:27 | < Erik> | Integrated DeveLopment Environment. :p |
| 14:28 | < Erik> | At present, I was using its ability to let me write and run small scripts without needing a file. |
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| 14:35 | < Syk> | is that the python one |
| 14:35 | < Syk> | or something else |
| 14:35 | < Syk> | (what you get when you run python) |
| 14:36 | < Erik> | It's the python one |
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| 16:10 | <&ToxicFrog> | Syk: IDLE is not the python REPL, if that's what you're asking. |
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| 16:49 | <@Azash> | https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7169 |
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| 22:46 | <@Reiv> | Azash: Not exactly subtle about it are they |
| 22:51 | <@Azash> | Not really |
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| 23:20 | <@Reiv> | Alas, it also doesn't work |
| 23:20 | <@Reiv> | What with the whole issue being that you get gagged |
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| 23:22 | <@Tamber> | From reading it, I think the idea is that you don't set it until you actually get one of those requests; and then the presence of it, though set to false, implies you're not allowed to say. |
| 23:30 | <@Azash> | I suggest checking the date on the RFC |
| 23:30 | <@Tamber> | Pft, but that's no fun~ |
| 23:31 | <@Tamber> | ;) |
| 23:31 | <@Azash> | I wish HTCPCP was legitimate though |
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| 23:59 | <@Azash> | http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lohsen-ip-burrito-00 |
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