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14:42 | < abudhabi_> | Ffffff. |
14:42 | < abudhabi_> | Fucking Google. |
14:51 | < Shiz> | ok |
14:53 | < abudhabi_> | A few months ago, they changed the layout of the new tab page. |
14:53 | < abudhabi_> | It was reversible then. |
14:53 | < abudhabi_> | Yesterday, they cancelled the reversibility to the old version. |
14:53 | < abudhabi_> | I hate the new look. It makes my common tasks take more time and be more prone to error. |
14:57 | < Syka> | http://getfirefox.com |
14:57 | < abudhabi_> | Way ahead of you. |
14:58 | < Syka> | as in you're already at http://nightly.mozilla.org/? ;P |
14:59 | < abudhabi_> | No, as in I have all major browsers except IE installed. I just need to take a bit to personalize. |
15:01 | < Syka> | anyway lol slep |
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15:09 | <@gnolam> | All the while, Firefox is desperatly trying to copy Chrome instead of sticking to what made people use it in the first place, and is going more and more GNOME every day. |
15:10 | <@gnolam> | THIS IS HOW WE DO THINGS NOW AND YOU WILL LIKE IT |
15:12 | < ErikMesoy> | And Opera barfed all over itself years ago |
15:12 | < ErikMesoy> | LET'S REWRITE THE CORE ENGINE |
15:13 | < ErikMesoy> | WE'LL HAVE TO DROP A LOT OF OUR FEATURES |
15:13 | < ErikMesoy> | I'M SURE THEY'LL BE REIMPLEMENTED IN THE FUTURE |
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15:37 | | * TheWatcher sads about opera |
15:38 | <@TheWatcher> | I still have 12.16 installed in a bunch of places, and will sometimes use it so I can use Dragonfly |
15:40 | <&ToxicFrog> | It was so good, and then they just...went insane. |
15:54 | <@celticminstrel> | Insane how? |
15:54 | <&ToxicFrog> | celticminstrel: <ErikMesoy> LET'S REWRITE THE CORE ENGINE <ErikMesoy> WE'LL HAVE TO DROP A LOT OF OUR FEATURES <ErikMesoy> I'M SURE THEY'LL BE REIMPLEMENTED IN THE FUTURE |
15:54 | <&ToxicFrog> | (spoilers: they weren't) |
15:54 | <&ToxicFrog> | (also performance went completely to shit) |
15:54 | <@celticminstrel> | Ah. |
15:58 | <@TheWatcher> | opera was falling behind other browsers with support for a bunch of HTML5 features. Rather than spend the manpower on making those work with opera's own browser core, they decided the best way to do it was to switch to using Chromium/WebKit as a base. |
15:59 | < ErikMesoy> | I have a 10.something installation |
16:00 | <@TheWatcher> | And rather than actually make the standard opera features work with the new core, they just pushed out a vastly lobotomised version of the browser that is pointless to use |
16:01 | <@TheWatcher> | May as well use chrome, and extensions to make it behave a bit more like opera used to (which is what I've done) |
16:01 | <&ToxicFrog> | Ditto. |
16:02 | <@TheWatcher> | I wouldn't have actually /minded/ the engine switch, if they'd retained the featureset. But meh. |
16:02 | < Xon> | TheWatcher, it's a classic error |
16:07 | < ErikMesoy> | Xon: Throwing out shit and rewriting? |
16:07 | < Xon> | yes |
16:08 | < Xon> | and then releasing before you have reached feature-parity with the old version |
16:14 | <@TheWatcher> | Xon: yeah, well. Opera 15 didn't even support bookmarks |
16:14 | <@TheWatcher> | That's not lacking feature parity with the old version. That's lacking feature parity with fucking netscape navigator. |
16:15 | < ErikMesoy> | hey, don't diss netscape navigator, I have good memories of it from when I was twelve! |
16:17 | <&ToxicFrog> | That's lacking parity with NCSA Mosaic |
16:42 | <@gnolam> | TheWatcher: ... |
16:45 | <@TheWatcher> | http://operabrowser.wikispaces.com/Features - that's a list of the features from Opera <=12 and whether they have been reimplemented in 15+. |
16:47 | < ErikMesoy> | ah yes, Ctrl-Z to unclose tab |
16:47 | < ErikMesoy> | Best undo. |
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18:05 | < Shiz> | I wish they opensourced presto |
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19:54 | < RichyB> | It would be nice if people didn't DDoS freenode. |
20:40 | < ErikMesoy> | https://twitter.com/louroboros/status/412913768998268928 |
20:49 | < simon_> | ErikMesoy, come on, what's wrong with C-S-t? ;) |
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