| --- Log opened Fri Jan 10 00:00:59 2014 |
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| 00:18 | <@Azash> | http://imgur.com/a/2qlm2 |
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| 01:34 | <@Alek> | pfft. |
| 01:34 | <@Alek> | indeed. |
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| 02:48 | <&ToxicFrog> | Vornicus: python is like 25MB of overhead if this is going to be downloaded. |
| 02:48 | <&ToxicFrog> | That said, I have not noticed any significant startup time for small python programs. |
| 02:48 | <~Vornicus> | well point |
| 02:48 | <&ToxicFrog> | So if that's the only concern, rock on with the python |
| 02:49 | <&ToxicFrog> | (in contrast to, say, clojure) |
| 03:06 | | * Thalass eyes that link |
| 03:07 | < Thalass> | Whelp. No more gizmodo for me. >.< |
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| 03:27 | <@celticminstrel> | Huhwhat? |
| 03:44 | <@Reiv> | eh? |
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| 05:07 | <~Vornicus> | nani? |
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| 07:02 | <@Alek> | this: http://imgur.com/a/2qlm2 |
| 07:06 | <~Vornicus> | wat |
| 07:19 | <@Reiver> | ... my ping is hovering over 1000ms |
| 07:20 | <@Reiver> | That would cause nontrivial connection issues, yes indeed |
| 07:25 | <@Reiver> | any clue what would cause it? |
| 07:27 | <@froztbyte> | to where? |
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| 10:24 | <@Reiver> | froztbyte: Google, as a shorthand for 'the internet' |
| 10:28 | <@froztbyte> | that's just overly conceited |
| 11:22 | <@Reiver> | Well, OK, but it was youtube that was being particuarly obnoxious, so it didn't seem unreasonable :p |
| 11:47 | <@froztbyte> | because there's just a single youtube server in the whole world ;) |
| 11:47 | <@froztbyte> | but seriously, that's the problem with something as simplistic as "ping" |
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| 16:37 | <&ToxicFrog> | froztbyte: while true, there's no way you should have 1000ms ping to any of the google servers. |
| 16:38 | <&ToxicFrog> | And pinging google.com makes a convenient first-pass test, because there's probably a DC near you and it's almost never down. So if that doesn't work, or has really high latency or packet loss, that tells you something. |
| 16:38 | <@froztbyte> | ToxicFrog: l.a.w.l. |
| 16:38 | <@froztbyte> | please visit the rest of the world |
| 16:38 | <@froztbyte> | there are whole countries where 800ms is your /baseline best/ |
| 16:38 | <@froztbyte> | and not just one or two, either |
| 16:39 | < ErikMesoy> | Alek: very wat |
| 16:39 | <@froztbyte> | easily 10~15 of them |
| 16:39 | <@froztbyte> | ethopia, for instance, has a single ISP. controlled by the government. it's randomly down every now and then. |
| 16:39 | < ErikMesoy> | I can understand someone having only a vague conception of the idea of conservation of energy, but... how do I put this... |
| 16:39 | <@froztbyte> | we didn't even have GGCs in .za until 3 years ago |
| 16:39 | <&ToxicFrog> | froztbyte: right, but in that case "high latency" means something else |
| 16:40 | <&ToxicFrog> | If your baseline latency is 800ms, and you're getting 5000ms to google, something is fucked. |
| 16:40 | <@froztbyte> | high latency is high latency |
| 16:40 | <@froztbyte> | "high latency /for this connection/" is something else |
| 16:40 | < ErikMesoy> | Alek: there really should be a more generalized rule of thumb most people have, sort of like conservation of energy, no free lunch theorem, suggesting some skepticism about getting anything free forever. |
| 16:42 | <@froztbyte> | anyway, I need to roll |
| 16:42 | | * froztbyte departs |
| 16:46 | | * ErikMesoy examines the current version of the Gizmodo article. They're trying the humor defense. I wasn't ignorant, I was just making a joke and nobody laughed! |
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| 17:24 | < RichyB> | April is THREE MONTHS in the future, silly. |
| 17:40 | <@gnolam> | It's not like Gizmodo had any credibility to begin with. |
| 17:43 | < ErikMesoy> | Because they bollocksed before, or because they are fundamentally a bollocks-y sort of thing? |
| 17:48 | <@gnolam> | The latter. |
| 17:48 | <@gnolam> | They're Gawker. |
| 17:48 | < ErikMesoy> | OH. |
| 17:49 | < ErikMesoy> | Hence the linking to imgur, I take it. |
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| 19:27 | <&ToxicFrog> | "The [redacted] system as it exists in 2013, to the best of our knowledge and a reasonable degree of simplification: [graph with 21 nodes and 70 edges]" |
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| 20:20 | <@Alek> | o_o |
| 20:34 | <&ToxicFrog> | Alek: you should see the un-simplified version! |
| 20:35 | <&ToxicFrog> | Well, you shouldn't, because it's internal stuff, but |
| 20:35 | <@Alek> | quite |
| 20:36 | <&ToxicFrog> | I have successfully inflicted sanity damage on Chrome team members by showing it to them >.> |
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| 22:26 | <@Shiz> | ToxicFrog: blur it! |
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| 23:07 | <@Reiver> | IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL |
| 23:07 | <@Reiver> | what is this I don't even |
| 23:09 | <@Alek> | IRQL_GREATER |
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| 23:13 | <~Vornicus> | It's a common windows crash; can be caused by a lot of things. |
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| 23:41 | <&McMartin> | Reiver: That means something threw an exception in kernel code that isn't supposed to throw exceptions |
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| 23:51 | | * McMartin boggles at the brilliance of "NaN: Pretty State Machine" |
| 23:51 | <&McMartin> | Which sadly seems to be only the name |
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| 23:52 | <@celticminstrel> | What? |
| 23:52 | <&McMartin> | Nine Inch Nails had a song (?) album (?) named "Pretty Hate Machine" |
| 23:52 | <&McMartin> | I went looking on the Internet for posters and didn't find any |
| 23:55 | <@Alek> | about a girl? |
| 23:58 | <&McMartin> | NIN is kind of shouty, it's hard to tell~ |
| 23:58 | <&McMartin> | I'm mostly just marveling at the pun |
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