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| 00:31 | <&McMartin> | Doing something like Intellisense in the general case for Python technically requires you to solve the halting problem |
| 00:31 | <&McMartin> | I suspect you can get Close Enough with very little effort though. |
| 00:31 | <&McMartin> | Effort I'm unaware of anyone of yet doing. |
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| 01:00 | <@celticminstrel> | Intellisense? |
| 01:01 | <&McMartin> | The MS autocompletion stuff |
| 01:01 | <&McMartin> | Notable for actually working at a decent speed unlike Eclipse's equivalent. |
| 01:01 | <&McMartin> | I can't speak to XCode. |
| 01:03 | < Reiv|doc> | Eclipse is great |
| 01:03 | < Reiv|doc> | As long as it works. |
| 01:05 | < Reiv|doc> | It always struck me as a jenga sculpture - impressive to behold, all too easy to knock down, and a passion in the ass to fix when it does~ |
| 01:05 | < Reiv|doc> | ... pain. Stupid predictive. |
| 01:05 | <@celticminstrel> | XCode is pretty good, as I recall. Eclipse is okay for Java at least. |
| 01:12 | < RichyB> | "a passion in the ass" sounds like a euphemism for "a fuck in the ass" |
| 01:12 | < RichyB> | It squeaks by just about making sense, too. |
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| 03:54 | <~Vornicus> | blarg I hate this stuff. |
| 03:54 | | * Vornicus finds himself with a list of objects with names, and a name. |
| 03:56 | <~Vornicus> | why does this have to happen so often |
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| 05:11 | <~Vornicus> | (I guess in itself that's fine, but the thing is I also have to keep them in order, and) |
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| 06:58 | < Harlow> | anyone got a good pdf/webpage for understanding inheritance (c++) |
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| 15:24 | < RichyB> | Anyone whose CV/resumé says "system administrator" but who exhibits a fear of automation should be defenestrated using a howitzer. |
| 15:25 | < RichyB> | *résumé |
| 15:25 | < ErikMesoy> | How about just a little worry of automation, like the story about the guy who set his home and work emails to CC one another on what each received? :) |
| 15:26 | < RichyB> | Fire them through a pane of stained glass; fire the pane of stained glass onto them; I'm happy either way. |
| 15:28 | < RichyB> | ErikMesoy, eh. The Sorceror's Apprentice is a role model, not a warning. ⺠|
| 15:31 | < mac> | Anyone here familiar with Windows Batch coding? |
| 15:33 | < ErikMesoy> | Ah-ha, was watching Task Manager and found a source of the CPU spikes I reported a while back. GPU-Z is occasionally grabbing an entire core for itself. |
| 15:35 | < ErikMesoy> | Not sure what's grabbing the others though. Would one core grab result in other processes shifting over to other cores and causing spikes there? |
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| 16:30 | <&ToxicFrog> | mac: I've done enough of it to hate it. |
| 16:30 | <&ToxicFrog> | Why? |
| 16:35 | < mac> | I need to turn the following (very brief) pseudo-code into batch script: |
| 16:35 | < mac> | if (process 'x.exe' exists): |
| 16:35 | < mac> | taskkill /im 'x.exe' |
| 16:35 | < mac> | for (unsigned int i = 0; i < 10; i++): |
| 16:35 | < mac> | if !(process 'x.exe' exists): |
| 16:35 | < mac> | break |
| 16:35 | < mac> | sleep 1 second |
| 16:35 | < mac> | if (process 'x.exe' exists): |
| 16:35 | < mac> | taskkill /im 'x.exe' /F |
| 16:39 | <&ToxicFrog> | Oh boy. |
| 16:39 | <&ToxicFrog> | Good luck. |
| 16:41 | <&Derakon> | For when you really need to make sure a task dies, eh? |
| 16:42 | < celticminstrel> | Wouldn't it be easier to figure out why it's being relaunched and stop that? |
| 16:42 | < celticminstrel> | Assuming that's indeed the reason for this... |
| 16:47 | < mac> | Well, what I'm trying to do is kill a task. However, I want to give it the chance to shut down gracefully (via taskkill) before I kill it forcefully (via taskkill /F). Furthermore, I want to give it a good 10 seconds to exit, since not all programs can stop instantly, but I don't want to wait unnessisarily long if it does exit. |
| 16:48 | <@Shiz> | this would've been so easy in bourne shell scripts... |
| 16:48 | | * Shiz whistles |
| 16:49 | <&ToxicFrog> | celticminstrel: what he's after here is the equivalent of sending SIGTERM, waiting for the task to shut down gracefully, and then sending SIGKILL if it doesn't, a la the standard linux shutdown process. |
| 16:49 | <&ToxicFrog> | I have no idea what the windows equivalent of pgrep is, though. |
| 16:49 | <&ToxicFrog> | Or even if it has one. |
| 16:50 | < celticminstrel> | Ah, I see. |
| 16:50 | < celticminstrel> | Not quite what I thought he wanted, then. |
| 16:50 | <@Shiz> | ToxicFrog: tasklist. |
| 16:50 | <@Shiz> | tasklist /FI "IMAGENAME eq myapp.exe" 2>NUL | find /I /N "myapp.exe">NUL |
| 16:50 | <@Shiz> | this is what stackoverflow tells me |
| 16:50 | <@Shiz> | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/162291/how-to-check-if-a-process-is-running- via-a-batch-script |
| 16:51 | <@Shiz> | (and then check %errorlevel%) |
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| 16:52 | < mac> | Shiz: Danke. |
| 16:53 | <@Shiz> | to be honets I think this would be far easier to do in C |
| 16:53 | <@Shiz> | just saying |
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| 16:55 | < celticminstrel> | But without POSIX? |
| 16:58 | <@Shiz> | yes |
| 16:58 | <@Shiz> | windows has an API too, you know |
| 17:00 | < celticminstrel> | Of course. |
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| 18:38 | <&ToxicFrog> | Shiz: probably. batch scripting is just powerful enough to make you think you want to use it for something. |
| 18:39 | <@Shiz> | and then you try a for-loop. |
| 18:39 | | * Shiz shudders in horror |
| 18:54 | < ErikMesoy> | My laptop has cooled down! For no obvious reason. |
| 18:54 | < ErikMesoy> | Idle temperature has dropped 15C since I mentioned heating trouble a few days back. |
| 18:55 | <&ToxicFrog> | (actual serious suggestion: @ECHO OFF; c:/cygwin/bin/bash.exe script.sh) |
| 18:59 | <@TheWatcher> | (^--) |
| 18:59 | | * Tarinaky +1's ToxicFrog's solution. |
| 19:00 | <@TheWatcher> | (so much less painful) |
| 19:00 | <@Tarinaky> | Although you'll want the slashes the other way around in a bash script~ |
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| 19:01 | | * TheWatcher just uses / everywhere these days; windows will handle it fine provided you remember to quote spaced strings |
| 19:04 | <&ToxicFrog> | TheWatcher: windows will, but some windows tools completely lose their shit if you pass them a path containing / on the command line |
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| 19:35 | < mac> | Shiz: No C compiler installed. I could do it in Python, but the whole idea of this script is to kill off a process that is causeing my machine to grind practically to a halt, so I want as little overhead as possible. |
| 19:35 | <~Vornicus> | it's not like python is that much overhead |
| 19:37 | < mac> | Vornicus: Not actualy runtime or memory overhead, but it's an additional layer that has to go through. And when it takes several seconds to open an application, that's significant. |
| 19:38 | < mac> | (For example, rather than slapping the batch script into a file, I plan to type it directly into the shortcut's target field.) |
| 19:38 | < mac> | Can somebody open http://interadcorp.com/ in a browser that is not Firefox? |
| 19:39 | < ErikMesoy> | 01. Online Applications [See more] [Contact us] |
| 19:39 | < ErikMesoy> | Is this the general sort of thing I should see in Chrome? |
| 19:40 | < ErikMesoy> | No obvious errors in IE, either |
| 19:40 | < ErikMesoy> | Menus at top are Home, About, Portfolio, Contact. |
| 19:42 | < mac> | ErikMesoy: In FF, all the content seems to be there, but it looks like a normal horzontal layout that's been turned into a vertical one because a CSS file didn't load. |
| 19:43 | < ErikMesoy> | Aha. Yeah, borked in Firefox all right. |
| 19:43 | < mac> | Okay. I'll dig out Chrome then. |
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