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| 00:24 | <@TheWatcher[T-2]> | So, it seems that the horrible CPU usage problems I'm getting from virtualbox are definitely network related, now I need to work out why |
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| 00:57 | <&Derakon> | Evening, all. |
| 00:58 | < thalass> | allo |
| 00:58 | <@Alek> | hey thalmel. |
| 00:58 | <@Alek> | sups? |
| 01:00 | | * Derakon finishes the first set of really tricky cuts for this project, without any disasters happening! http://derakon.dyndns.org/~chriswei/temp2/wonderland1.jpg |
| 01:00 | <&Derakon> | (S'gonna be a cutting board when it's done, assuming the second set doesn't turn disastrous) |
| 01:02 | <&Derakon> | Oop, this was meant to go to #fleet, not #code. Got my windows flipped. |
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| 02:29 | < Xon> | <froztbyte> Richard Statman is the examinator at CMU |
| 02:29 | < Xon> | <froztbyte> and OP is asking the internet for help on a take-home exam question |
| 02:29 | < Xon> | Statman's comments where amazingly stupid, and frankly take-home exams when the questions only permit a basicly a single approch to solve them is really damn dumb if you want to catch someone cheating |
| 02:31 | <@Namegduf> | Take-home exams are a completely idiotic concept anyway. |
| 02:31 | <@Namegduf> | The university should earn its damn tuition fee. |
| 02:31 | <&McMartin> | well |
| 02:32 | < Xon> | almost as bad as shoving someone in a corner with no references tand being told to solve problems completely unsupported by modern infrustructure |
| 02:34 | <@Namegduf> | Anyways, his comments were perfectly reasonable presuming he was right about saying he knew what he said he knew. It seems like you're extending some general kind of antipathy to people who catch cheaters to him. |
| 02:35 | < Xon> | it is functionally anonymous forum, picking a name of someone you don't like is perfectly posible |
| 02:37 | <@Reiv> | What is the difference between a take-home exam and a homework assignment? |
| 02:37 | < Xon> | Reiv, presumably how much it's worth for the course work |
| 02:37 | <@Namegduf> | The former has a different name so they can skip doing an actual exam. |
| 02:38 | <@Reiv> | I see. |
| 02:38 | <@Reiv> | So, none, but if you call it a take-home exam you can skip an end-of-year model. |
| 02:38 | <@Namegduf> | I think they still do an end-of-year model, they just give it out at the end of the year. |
| 02:38 | <@Namegduf> | Or semester, more exactly. |
| 02:42 | <@gnolam> | If take-home exams are idiotic, you're doing them wrong. |
| 02:43 | <&McMartin> | Reiv: some "take-home exams" are actually final projects |
| 02:44 | <@Namegduf> | Well, the name is idiotic. |
| 02:44 | <@Namegduf> | They're not invigilated. |
| 02:44 | < Xon> | gnolam, depending on the institution, I suspect one of the reasons for picking them is to prevent reduced class time being consumed by testing |
| 02:44 | <@Namegduf> | They're not under "exam conditions". |
| 02:44 | <@Reiv> | McM: So the name is a political matter? |
| 02:44 | <@Namegduf> | They have none of the distinguishing aspects separating an exam from anything else. |
| 02:44 | <@Namegduf> | So anyone calling them "take home exams" is doing it wrong to start with. |
| 02:44 | <&McMartin> | Reiv: I'd go with "cultural preference within the field" |
| 02:47 | <@Namegduf> | i.e. it sounds better when you don't admit there's no invigilated assessment within your class. |
| 02:47 | < Xon> | Namegduf, expecting 'exam conditions' out of class is always an amusing concept |
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| 08:22 | <@Tarinaky> | "You try to shoot yourself in the foot, but find out the the gun is actually a howitzer cannon." |
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| 10:47 | < Syka> | http://imgur.com/gallery/BDoHk |
| 10:47 | < Syka> | ahahahaha |
| 10:47 | <@Azash> | Tarinaky: Python |
| 10:47 | <@Azash> | You try to shoot yourself in the foot but you just keep hitting the whitespace between your toes. |
| 10:48 | <@Tarinaky> | The fun thing about C is when you get half way through a problem and realise that half your code is basically just reimplementing a large subset of C++ |
| 10:49 | <@Tarinaky> | Except less reusable. |
| 10:52 | <@Azash> | It's still 95% likely to be preferable to C++ |
| 11:03 | <@Tarinaky> | But... but... I like C++ o.o |
| 11:03 | <@Tarinaky> | Or rather, I prefer new, delete, objects, etc.. to not having them >.> |
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| 12:16 | <@Alek> | grr |
| 12:22 | <@Azash> | rawr |
| 13:21 | | * iospace eats Xon |
| 13:21 | <@iospace> | ^_^ |
| 13:21 | <@iospace> | Azash: it's not Tcl |
| 13:21 | <@iospace> | Tarinaky: it's not Tcl |
| 13:21 | <@iospace> | stop bitching :P |
| 13:22 | <@Azash> | Wut? |
| 13:22 | <@iospace> | Tcl |
| 13:22 | <@iospace> | a horrible horrible thing |
| 13:23 | <@Azash> | Oh, a language |
| 13:23 | <@iospace> | yes |
| 13:23 | <@iospace> | but! |
| 13:23 | <@iospace> | i must be off to woooooooooooooooork~ |
| 13:23 | <@Azash> | Most uguu |
| 13:24 | | * Alek is starting to hate his job. the driving! the tickets! D: |
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| 15:21 | < Syka> | hum. |
| 15:21 | < Syka> | does anybody here have any pointers for an authentication system for Twisted |
| 15:21 | < Syka> | i found http://twistedmatrix.com/documents/11.0.0/core/howto/cred.html , this seems to be a standard sort of thing? |
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| 17:07 | | * TheWatcher sighs vaguely, expect he will shortly be writing a perl module to read and write KSP sfs files |
| 17:07 | <@TheWatcher> | (why couldn't they just have used xml and avoid such shenanigans, damnit) |
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| 17:11 | < RichyB> | Because XML is an utter ballache and serves only one purpose well? :P |
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| 17:12 | < Syka> | that one purpose: making data slow as balls |
| 17:13 | < RichyB> | Nope. |
| 17:14 | < RichyB> | If you have data crossing an organisational boundary, XML is really useful, because you can use a fully machine-readable DTD, RelaxNG or XSD schema to objectively enforce that it's well-formed and complies to some existing format. |
| 17:15 | < Syka> | whilst making said data slow as balls :P |
| 17:15 | < RichyB> | This can be really useful when you have to parse data that's produced by people who are not very smart, because it lets you point to their validation failures when they angrily demand to know why you're not parsing a particular document that they submitted. |
| 17:16 | < RichyB> | It short-circuits the blamestorming. :P |
| 17:16 | <@gnolam> | Heh |
| 17:16 | < Syka> | hehehe |
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| 17:27 | <@Azash> | TheWatcher: JSON~ |
| 17:51 | <@celticminstrel> | Stupid programs, stop resizing your windows when the screen resolution changes! |
| 17:52 | <@celticminstrel> | Especially if those windows are not visible due to being hidden or on a different desktop. |
| 17:56 | | * TheWatcher shrugs, prefers XML, but then has been using it extensively for yonks |
| 17:58 | <@gnolam> | And LibreOffice still requires you to manually update indices. Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy |
| 17:58 | <@gnolam> | Seriously, keeping track of that is something my /Amiga/ could do in real time. |
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| 18:20 | <@celticminstrel> | Indices of what? |
| 18:20 | <@celticminstrel> | Footnotes? |
| 18:20 | <@celticminstrel> | Tables of contents? |
| 18:20 | <@celticminstrel> | Or do you mean an index of keywords at the end? |
| 18:21 | <@celticminstrel> | Maybe that should be "key words" rather than "keywords". Not sure. |
| 18:21 | <&jerith> | The first achievement listed for Gamemaker: Studio on Steam is "1,000 compile errors". |
| 18:22 | <@celticminstrel> | XD What. |
| 18:30 | <&ToxicFrog> | TheWatcher: you will be first up against the wall when the revolution comes |
| 18:30 | <&ToxicFrog> | (also, why do you need a perl module to read and write SFS files?) |
| 18:38 | < Moltare> | At the risk of sounding like a stuck record, TF, I must demur in favour of the notion that /our Engine team/ will be first against the wall when the revolution comes. |
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| 18:43 | <&ToxicFrog> | I can find no flaw in your position, sir. |
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| 18:53 | | * jerith will not be anywhere near the wall when the revolution comes. |
| 18:57 | <@gnolam> | celticminstrel: table of contents. |
| 19:00 | <@iospace> | jerith: says you! |
| 19:01 | <&jerith> | I'm just avoiding walls in general. |
| 19:01 | <@iospace> | that won't save you :3 |
| 19:02 | <@TheWatcher> | TF: Because I want to edit some stuff in my persistent.sfs (specifically, replace a solar panel I knocked off due to pressing the wrong button during docking), and I'm lazy |
| 19:03 | | * TheWatcher shrugs |
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| 19:11 | <@iospace> | guys |
| 19:12 | <@iospace> | should i try to write my own RTOS? o: |
| 19:13 | <@celticminstrel> | Word requires me to right-click and select "Update" whenever something changes. |
| 19:13 | <@celticminstrel> | For tables of contents. |
| 20:01 | <@gnolam> | And this is ridiculously stupid. |
| 20:07 | <&ToxicFrog> | Yes. |
| 20:09 | <@gnolam> | TheWatcher: Ah, programmer laziness. Instead of fixing the problem, spend 10 times as long making a tool to fix the problem.~ |
| 20:09 | <@iospace> | :P |
| 20:12 | <@TheWatcher> | gnolam: well, this time, maybe. But what about next time, or the time after... |
| 20:22 | <@celticminstrel> | ...how did I put VVVVVV in fullscreen mode. :( |
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| 20:22 | <@celticminstrel> | Somehow I fixed it. :/ |
| 20:22 | <@celticminstrel> | But still not sure how... |
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| 21:42 | <@iospace> | http://theprofoundprogrammer.com/post/27838653646/text-how-the-fuck-could-this-h ave-ever-worked |
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