| --- Log opened Sun Oct 21 00:00:00 2012 |
| 00:29 | < ToxicFrog> | Oh god, thesis is so close to finished |
| 00:31 | <~Vornicus> | oh god |
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| 07:39 | < AnnoDomini> | How do I wipe any local stuff I've messed around with in git? |
| 07:39 | < AnnoDomini> | I mean, I've done some adds and commits and I want to wipe that out and start anew. |
| 07:48 | < AnnoDomini> | I'm trying git reset --hard, but that brings me to like one commit ago, which is not where I started out. |
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| 08:24 | < AnnoDomini> | Nevermind. I figured it out. |
| 08:24 | < AnnoDomini> | Still don't know how to deal with compiling on Windows. |
| 08:59 | | * Tamber cackles |
| 09:02 | <@Tamber> | (push FFFF) dup (push addr) =0 if jump drop (push 1) - (push 2) jump # Someone hit me before I start on something dangerous! |
| 09:08 | | * Azash eyes the line curiously |
| 09:09 | < Azash> | ToxicFrog: YOU CAN DO IT |
| 09:10 | | * Tamber is not a poisonous amphibian. |
| 09:11 | <@Tamber> | Ah well, I'll have to settle for mildly-toxic fuzzy thing. |
| 09:23 | < Azash> | No I mean TF almost being done with his thesis |
| 09:24 | <@Tamber> | Oh. Okay, then! :) |
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| 12:19 | < froztbyte> | Tamber: those could read like platform level instructions |
| 12:19 | < froztbyte> | platformer* |
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| 15:34 | < AnnoDomini> | How do I extract the command to compile a project from Code::Blocks? |
| 15:35 | < AnnoDomini> | I mean, it makes it automatically, but is there anywhere I can see it? |
| 16:00 | < Syk> | uhh |
| 16:01 | < Syk> | does it make a make file? |
| 16:01 | | * Syk doesn't remember if codeblocks does... |
| 16:01 | < Syk> | that's C++ isn't it? |
| 16:02 | < AnnoDomini> | Yeah. And nevermind, I found a solution. |
| 16:04 | < iospace> | heh C++ |
| 16:04 | < iospace> | i'm usinig C :P |
| 16:05 | < Syk> | well i'm using LaTeX |
| 16:05 | < Syk> | so ha |
| 16:10 | < iospace> | *using |
| 16:10 | < iospace> | Syk: but ar eyou working on a BIOS? :3 |
| 16:14 | < Syk> | iospace: no, my resume |
| 16:14 | < iospace> | :P |
| 16:15 | < Syk> | iospace: are you working on a BIOS |
| 16:15 | | * Syk slaps iospace preemptively |
| 16:15 | < iospace> | yes i am ^_^ |
| 16:15 | < AnnoDomini> | Well, I'm not sure how much of my work is C++ rather than C. I use C++ projects by default, so I don't get tripped up by "this newfangled loop type is available only in C++" and such. |
| 16:18 | < iospace> | which loop type? |
| 16:19 | < celticminstrel> | for(int x : myarray)? |
| 16:20 | < Syk> | colour me surprised |
| 16:21 | < Syk> | gdm 3.6 is actually very nice |
| 16:21 | < Syk> | and gnome-screensaver |
| 16:21 | < rms> | In what way? |
| 16:21 | < Syk> | as in |
| 16:21 | < Syk> | the 'screensaver' bit is a background image with the time and date |
| 16:22 | < Syk> | hit enter and it slides up to show the login box |
| 16:22 | < Syk> | it looks visually slick |
| 16:22 | < Syk> | AND the best bit? |
| 16:22 | < Syk> | it DOESN'T CRASH! |
| 16:22 | < rms> | Oh, so it's pretty. |
| 16:22 | < Syk> | which gnome-screensaver 2.x always fucking did |
| 16:22 | | * rms will keep his distance anyways |
| 16:22 | < Syk> | it's functionally pretty |
| 16:24 | < Syk> | however |
| 16:25 | < Syk> | rhythmbox still sucks |
| 16:25 | < Syk> | number of people surprised: 0 |
| 16:26 | < rms> | Well yeah, it's GNOME. They made a design decision to start mimicing all the failures of the two big ones. |
| 16:26 | < Syk> | I dunno |
| 16:26 | < Syk> | I'm quite happy with GNOME 3.6 |
| 16:26 | < rms> | Then heap on their own brand of failure to top it all. |
| 16:26 | < Syk> | 3.2 was argh |
| 16:26 | | * rms doesn't like GNOME much. |
| 16:26 | < Syk> | 3.4 was gnome-classic only |
| 16:26 | < Syk> | but 3.6... well, it seems more mature |
| 16:27 | < Syk> | it's fast for me - which I'm surprised about, as I'm on Intel graphics |
| 16:27 | < Syk> | and with three or so tweaks, it's brilliant |
| 16:27 | < iospace> | Syk: what intel graphics are ya running? |
| 16:27 | < Syk> | iospace: Intel HD 3000 |
| 16:28 | < Syk> | on mah ultrabewk |
| 16:28 | < iospace> | hdh |
| 16:28 | < iospace> | *heh |
| 16:28 | < iospace> | i have HD 4000 on Usami ^_^ |
| 16:30 | < Syk> | I basically walked into the eletronics/whitegoods store across the road |
| 16:30 | < Syk> | was like LAPTOPS WHAT HAVE to my friend who works there |
| 16:30 | < Syk> | the lineup was a HP dvsomething with Nvidia, a Dell with AMD, an ASUS with AMD and this |
| 16:31 | < Syk> | it was the only Sandy Bridge out of all the Ivys that were there, IIRC |
| 16:31 | < Syk> | but, y'know |
| 16:31 | < iospace> | don't like ivy? |
| 16:31 | < Syk> | well, I would prefer ivy |
| 16:31 | < Syk> | but this was the only ultrabook |
| 16:31 | < Syk> | and everything else was 15.6", which is too big for me |
| 16:32 | < Syk> | but sandy bridge is perfectly adequate |
| 16:32 | < iospace> | :P |
| 16:32 | < Syk> | i think my 3770 is ivy |
| 16:32 | < iospace> | yes |
| 16:32 | < Syk> | 3xxx is ivy? |
| 16:32 | < iospace> | that's ivy |
| 16:32 | < iospace> | 3xxx is ivy |
| 16:32 | < Syk> | yeah this is like a 2476M or something |
| 16:32 | < iospace> | 2xxx is sandy |
| 16:32 | < Syk> | which sounds like a Nvidia code |
| 16:32 | < Syk> | lol |
| 16:32 | < iospace> | well |
| 16:32 | < iospace> | not all 3xxx |
| 16:33 | < Syk> | Nvidia annoys me |
| 16:33 | < iospace> | Sandy Bridge-E is 3xxx too |
| 16:33 | < Syk> | because they have like |
| 16:33 | < Syk> | the 690, and 560, and etc |
| 16:33 | < Syk> | I don't remember a xx5 in the past like, ever D: |
| 16:34 | < iospace> | 295 |
| 16:34 | < iospace> | 675m |
| 16:34 | < iospace> | :P |
| 16:34 | < iospace> | why don't you call AMD on that too! |
| 16:34 | < iospace> | actually AMD's numbering makes no sense |
| 16:34 | < Syk> | AMD just throw numbers around |
| 16:34 | < iospace> | 7970 is their best card, then the 7950, 7870? |
| 16:34 | < iospace> | yeah |
| 16:35 | < Syk> | Nvidia is relatively sane |
| 16:35 | < Syk> | x80 is their top end, x90 is their dual GPU on a board |
| 16:35 | < iospace> | it used to be XY00 too :P |
| 16:35 | < Syk> | x60 is the 'good enough' for me :P |
| 16:35 | < Syk> | oh yeah |
| 16:36 | < Syk> | I had a 9800GT, then a 5770, then a 460, then a 580 |
| 16:36 | < Syk> | the 5770 has made me never want to buy any AMD card ever again |
| 16:36 | < Syk> | or even associate myself with any machine with AMD graphics in it |
| 16:36 | < iospace> | i had a 5200, 5500, 8600m GT, and a 670 :P |
| 16:36 | < iospace> | how bad was it? |
| 16:37 | < iospace> | and a 580 is still pretty good |
| 16:38 | < Syk> | oh my god the 5770 was shithouse |
| 16:38 | < Syk> | >Update to latest drivers |
| 16:38 | < Syk> | >BSODs all up in yo face |
| 16:38 | < Syk> | >downgrade, finally get some stability |
| 16:38 | < Syk> | >have to download a special version, because BF:BC2 maps take literally 5 minutes to load |
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| 16:39 | < Syk> | i was like oh my god how do you /fuck up that badly/ |
| 16:39 | < Syk> | my second screen would flicker because the graphics clocks would go too low |
| 16:39 | < Syk> | so I'd have to force the clocks, so making it use more power than it bloody should |
| 16:40 | < iospace> | :P |
| 16:41 | < Syk> | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14290114/ATIcard.png |
| 16:41 | < iospace> | that and nVidia just has been slapping AMD around |
| 16:41 | < Syk> | I would also like to know how it runs hotter than my fuckin 580 |
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| 16:42 | < iospace> | my 670 runs around 55 degrees |
| 16:42 | < iospace> | but that's also with the fans at less than 50% speed |
| 16:42 | < iospace> | or well, less than 50% duty cycle |
| 16:42 | < iospace> | :P |
| 16:42 | < Syk> | the 5770 had three fans |
| 16:42 | < Syk> | it was like 90% fan |
| 16:43 | < iospace> | mine has three fans too, just that gigabyte hit the sweet spot with the speeds |
| 16:43 | < iospace> | like i can put it at 40% and it's just a quiet blowing noise |
| 16:43 | < iospace> | 20% i can't hear it |
| 16:44 | < Syk> | this is like |
| 16:44 | < Syk> | 60C |
| 16:44 | < Syk> | while all fans are running on high |
| 16:44 | < iospace> | Syk: AMD came out with the 7970 a couple months before the 680. the 680 came out and just blew the 7970 out of the water, and for cheaper |
| 16:44 | < Syk> | the thing was a solid block of heat |
| 16:45 | < iospace> | AMD drops prices, nVidia releases the 670, for at single screen 1920x1080 (which I run) still kicked the 7970 in the face |
| 16:45 | < iospace> | and was cheaper too |
| 16:46 | < Syk> | NVidia release the 660 Ti, Syka buys one and loves it forever |
| 16:46 | < iospace> | :P |
| 16:46 | < iospace> | i love my 670 ^_^ |
| 16:46 | < Syk> | can;t the 670 be nudged to 680-speeds? |
| 16:46 | < iospace> | yup :D |
| 16:46 | < Syk> | my friend bought a 690 when I bought my 660 |
| 16:46 | < iospace> | why? |
| 16:46 | < Syk> | wait no, a 680 rather |
| 16:46 | < iospace> | ok |
| 16:47 | < Syk> | he was replacing his 590 |
| 16:47 | < iospace> | ah |
| 16:47 | < celticminstrel> | Is AMD different from ATI? |
| 16:47 | < iospace> | a 670 can be clocked to 680 speeds, but you have to realize that the 680 can be clocked higher |
| 16:47 | < iospace> | nope |
| 16:47 | < iospace> | ATI got bought out by AMD |
| 16:47 | < celticminstrel> | 5770 is apparently what Apple uses as their low-end. |
| 16:47 | < celticminstrel> | In the Mac Pro. |
| 16:48 | < iospace> | apple can go fuck a suck |
| 16:48 | < iospace> | ^_^ |
| 16:48 | < iospace> | which makes me wonder |
| 16:48 | < iospace> | Syk: who do you hate more, Apple or AMD? |
| 16:48 | < Syk> | celticminstrel: isn't that their high end in the Mac Pro? |
| 16:48 | < Syk> | like... 5770 or nothing else |
| 16:49 | < celticminstrel> | High-end was 5870 I think... |
| 16:49 | < celticminstrel> | I just looked now... |
| 16:49 | < Syk> | wat |
| 16:49 | < Syk> | Apple still call AMD, ATI |
| 16:49 | < celticminstrel> | Well, it doesn't specifically say which is high and low, but the 5870 costs more, so... |
| 16:49 | < Syk> | "For even more graphics horsepower, upgrade to the ATI Radeon HD 5870 with 1GB of GDDR5 memory." |
| 16:49 | < celticminstrel> | Yup. |
| 16:50 | < Syk> | no, the 5870 is their high end |
| 16:50 | < celticminstrel> | I think the HD is significant too. |
| 16:50 | < iospace> | ... |
| 16:50 | < iospace> | a 5870 as a high end |
| 16:50 | < iospace> | a two year old video card |
| 16:50 | < iospace> | as a high end |
| 16:50 | < Syk> | http://www.apple.com/macpro/features/graphics.html |
| 16:50 | < iospace> | PROGRESS PEOPLE |
| 16:50 | < Syk> | AHAHAHAHA |
| 16:50 | < iospace> | PROGRESS |
| 16:50 | < Syk> | check the graph here |
| 16:50 | < Syk> | >Nvidia GeForce 120 (previous generation) |
| 16:50 | < Syk> | vs a 5770 |
| 16:51 | < Syk> | >Ancient Nvidia low-end compared to reasonably-modern AMD mid-end |
| 16:52 | < iospace> | the 120 is a bit older than a previous generation compared to the 5xxx series |
| 16:52 | < iospace> | if anything it would be the 300 series |
| 16:52 | < iospace> | oh |
| 16:52 | < iospace> | apple said that |
| 16:52 | < Syk> | yeah |
| 16:52 | < Syk> | thats the benefit of never upgrading hardware |
| 16:52 | < iospace> | yup! |
| 16:52 | < Syk> | >9999X TIMES FASTER THAN PREVIOUS GEN |
| 16:52 | < Syk> | ahaha i like the header |
| 16:53 | < Syk> | "A towering acheievement in power" |
| 16:53 | < Syk> | sure, apple |
| 16:53 | < celticminstrel> | I'm not too sure when they last upgrade their Mac Pro though. |
| 16:53 | < celticminstrel> | So it might be that it's legitimately out of date. |
| 16:54 | < Syk> | http://www.apple.com/macpro/features/processor.html |
| 16:54 | < Syk> | wat |
| 16:54 | < Syk> | the thing at the bottom |
| 16:54 | < Syk> | >8 Core 2.93GHz |
| 16:54 | < Syk> | vs >12 Core 3.06GHz |
| 16:54 | < Syk> | 1.5x the cores than the previous gen... but only 1.3x performance increase |
| 16:55 | < iospace> | Syk: 2x processors |
| 16:55 | < Syk> | oh wait |
| 16:55 | < Syk> | it's a memory throughput test |
| 16:55 | < Syk> | ...which... has nothing to do with processing |
| 16:55 | < Syk> | (well it does but you know) |
| 16:56 | < iospace> | :P |
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| 16:59 | < Syk> | it's like going THE NEW FORD PONTIAC |
| 16:59 | < Syk> | MUCH MORE POWERFUL ENGINE |
| 16:59 | < Syk> | HERE IS A BENCHMARK OF HOW WELL THE FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM WORKS |
| 17:00 | | * Vornicus honestly is unsure how he'd be able to use 12 processors at once. |
| 17:01 | <~Vornicus> | I don't think I've ever gotten up to using all 8 on my current computer. |
| 17:01 | < iospace> | to be completely honest that's probably a computer for "graphics professionals" who do a lot of rendering |
| 17:01 | < iospace> | or scientists who go lolololapple |
| 17:02 | <~Vornicus> | (I remember hitting 6...) |
| 17:02 | < iospace> | i wonder what chipset is being used, C606? |
| 17:02 | < Syk> | Vornicus: 12 cores makes `for (( ; ; )) do; yes &; done` run so much faster |
| 17:02 | < Syk> | :D |
| 17:03 | < iospace> | :P |
| 17:03 | < iospace> | snark ass |
| 17:03 | < Syk> | i have a 3770 which is quad w/ HT |
| 17:04 | < Syk> | it makes reencoding jobs insanely fast |
| 17:04 | < iospace> | Syk: i think by "previous generation" with the vid cards they mean the previous generation of mac pros |
| 17:04 | < Syk> | iospace: yes I know |
| 17:04 | < iospace> | i have a 3570k w/o HT |
| 17:04 | < Syk> | hence why I said they have a good thing going on, rarely upgrading their kit :P |
| 17:04 | < iospace> | http://www.apple.com/imac/performance.html |
| 17:04 | < iospace> | pffft |
| 17:04 | < Syk> | because dropping out of Moore's Law for a few quarters helps |
| 17:05 | < Syk> | "Watching a movie, updating your blog, editing photos. Tasks like these require data to travel from place to place. The latest Intel Core architecture puts the processor, cache, memory controller, and graphics engine on a single chip. Since data doesn't have as far to travel, you get faster performance and greater efficiency." |
| 17:05 | < Syk> | FASTER BLOGFICCIENCY |
| 17:05 | < iospace> | what chipsets ar eyou using lady dammit |
| 17:05 | < iospace> | OMG THUNDERBOLD |
| 17:05 | < iospace> | *BOLT |
| 17:06 | < iospace> | -yawn- |
| 17:06 | < Syk> | iospace: huh, me? |
| 17:06 | < iospace> | i don't believe in a god |
| 17:06 | < iospace> | :P |
| 17:06 | < Syk> | i am confused |
| 17:06 | < celticminstrel> | What is this thunderbolt thing. |
| 17:06 | < celticminstrel> | Optical cables or something? |
| 17:07 | < iospace> | celticminstrel: it's PCIe 4x over mini displayport |
| 17:07 | < Syk> | that just sounds fuckin weird |
| 17:07 | < celticminstrel> | I have very little idea what that actually means. |
| 17:07 | < Syk> | displayport is also the shittiest cable ever |
| 17:07 | < iospace> | celticminstrel: it can reach speeds of... 10 Gbps? |
| 17:07 | < Syk> | celticminstrel: it's basically like running PCI-e over a graphics cable |
| 17:07 | < iospace> | yeah |
| 17:07 | < Syk> | they just got DisplayPort and went THIS NEEDS MORE SHIT ON IT |
| 17:08 | < iospace> | eh |
| 17:08 | < iospace> | i think they're just using the DP data lines for PCI lines |
| 17:08 | < iospace> | compared to prior 4x cables for PCIe, it's an improvement |
| 17:08 | < Syk> | also iospace |
| 17:08 | < Syk> | few weeks back |
| 17:09 | < Syk> | CEO comes into my office |
| 17:09 | < Syk> | after seeing the estimated costs for cabling up the new building |
| 17:09 | < Syk> | guess what he asks |
| 17:09 | < iospace> | what? |
| 17:09 | < Syk> | :D gues |
| 17:09 | < Syk> | s |
| 17:09 | < iospace> | what did he say Syk |
| 17:09 | <~Vornicus> | "can't we just do wireless"? |
| 17:09 | < Syk> | "Can't we just run the computers off WiFi?" |
| 17:09 | < iospace> | ... |
| 17:09 | < iospace> | did you reach over and smack him? |
| 17:09 | < Syk> | I suspect he went "cables are expensive" |
| 17:09 | < iospace> | :D |
| 17:10 | <~Vornicus> | How many computers are we talking about here. |
| 17:10 | < Syk> | Vornicus: approximately 60 |
| 17:10 | < celticminstrel> | Well, technically that's probably a "yes", but... |
| 17:10 | < Syk> | plus as many NEC IP phones... |
| 17:10 | <~Vornicus> | Yeah no, it's cables o'clock. |
| 17:10 | < Syk> | but |
| 17:10 | < Syk> | I don't have to care |
| 17:10 | < Syk> | I resigned on Friday, I don't have to do the building move |
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| 17:11 | < Syk> | they scheduled our handover bit for... uh |
| 17:11 | < Syk> | we had, to do all the work |
| 17:11 | < Syk> | 21st of December until about the 3rd of Jan |
| 17:11 | < Syk> | they wanted everything to work the day of 21st, and we would still have to keep things like payroll's systems running |
| 17:11 | < Syk> | whilst moving THE ENTIRE COMPANY'S INFRASTRUCTURE |
| 17:12 | < Syk> | and then have every PC on every desk and every printer and server operating the morning of the 3rd |
| 17:12 | < Syk> | oh and the best bit? |
| 17:12 | < Syk> | the data cabling is FUBAR |
| 17:13 | < Syk> | the purchase would have settled on the 1st... and due to the building being owned by the federal government, we can't even /enter it/ unsupervised |
| 17:13 | < Syk> | let alone /do any works/ |
| 17:13 | < Syk> | so we would have half a month to recable 40 to 60 desks |
| 17:14 | < Syk> | and the feds are taking the server rack... and are just going to cut every cable at the rack |
| 17:14 | < Azash> | Jeez |
| 17:14 | < Syk> | because the rack was fed property |
| 17:14 | < Syk> | so may contain confidential information |
| 17:14 | < Syk> | and we were like IT'S A BIT OF METAL THAT THINGS GO IN |
| 17:14 | < Syk> | YOU CAN /TAKE THE SERVERS OUT/ |
| 17:15 | < Syk> | so yes |
| 17:15 | < Syk> | thank fuck I don't have to deal with that |
| 17:15 | < Azash> | Well, wouldn't they need rack cabinets at their new place? |
| 17:15 | < Syk> | Azash: we were offering to buy them a replacement rack |
| 17:15 | < Azash> | Ah |
| 17:15 | < Syk> | just so that we had /some/ cables intact |
| 17:16 | < Syk> | but yeah |
| 17:16 | < Syk> | we were also given 4 months about the building move |
| 17:16 | < Syk> | before we had to be in it |
| 17:16 | < Syk> | Telstra takes 3 months after ordering to put in the comms we need |
| 17:16 | < Syk> | note the 'after ordering' |
| 17:17 | < Syk> | so, after quotes, quoting out the works, getting permits for the public digups to lay the cable, checking if the building has a cable or has the capacity to have a cable without internal works... |
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| 18:57 | | * ErikMesoy gets the right answer and the wrong intermediate steps. Oh boy, this is gonna be fun to debug! |
| 19:02 | < iospace> | :P |
| 19:05 | < gnolam> | ErikMesoy: Two wrongs really do make a right! |
| 19:06 | < ErikMesoy> | gnolam: but the wrongs involve 8 and 48 when they should involve 6 and 24! |
| 19:06 | < ErikMesoy> | a factor of 1.33 and a factor of 2 shouldn't cancel out |
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| 20:53 | < ErikMesoy> | How can I get Python to open a file from a relative directory? i.e. something like open("/files/src.txt") where /files is a folder in the same folder as the .py file I am running. |
| 20:54 | < AnnoDomini> | Try "path//to//file.txt"? |
| 20:55 | <@Tamber> | Erik: wouldn't /files be a folder in the root of the drive? Whereas ./files would be the one in the same folder. |
| 20:57 | < ErikMesoy> | open("./files/src.txt") also throws error, as does ../files, and now I'm wondering if I have to import a powertool like sys or os. |
| 21:00 | < AnnoDomini> | What does "path//to//file.txt" get you?? |
| 21:00 | <~Vornicus> | um |
| 21:00 | <~Vornicus> | open("files/src.txt") should work. |
| 21:00 | <&Derakon> | os.getcwd() |
| 21:00 | <~Vornicus> | oh, wait |
| 21:00 | < gnolam> | ErikMesoy: where are you running the python file from? |
| 21:00 | <~Vornicus> | you want to work from the directory the file is in? |
| 21:00 | <&Derakon> | os.path.join(os.getcwd(), 'files', 'src.txt') |
| 21:01 | <~Vornicus> | in which case der has it, i think |
| 21:01 | < ErikMesoy> | gnolam: Deeeerp, never mind me. The python file wasn't actually in the directory I thought it was. >_> |
| 21:04 | < ErikMesoy> | Now it's all working in straightforward fashion and not throwing otherwise incomprehensible errors about not finding a folder. |
| 21:04 | < ToxicFrog> | Doesn't os.getcwd() get you the working directory, not the directory of the caller's source? |
| 21:05 | < gnolam> | Indeed. |
| 21:07 | <~Vornicus> | oh right |
| 21:09 | <&Derakon> | Okay, then Google to the rescue: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/247770/retrieving-python-module-path |
| 21:10 | <~Vornicus> | sys.argv[0] contains the name of the script |
| 21:11 | < ToxicFrog> | What if it was imported, and you're trying to load a resource relative to the path of the imported library? |
| 21:13 | <~Vornicus> | module.__file__ contains the name of the absolute path the module was imported from. you can then use os.path to futz with that path. |
| 21:14 | <~Vornicus> | inside the module it's just __file__ |
| 21:28 | | * ErikMesoy notes he received 20 of 25 points on the midsemester programming exam. (This was the one I bitched about earlier with Things You Ought To Know and Things You Have Quick Reference/Google For.) |
| 21:31 | < AnnoDomini> | This is underwhelming, genius. |
| 21:33 | < ErikMesoy> | I'm a genius, not a syntax memorizer! |
| 21:43 | < ToxicFrog> | Hrm. |
| 21:43 | < ToxicFrog> | The 'fast' and 'release' builds are supposedly equivalent, except that 'fast' disables all forms of runtime error checking. |
| 21:43 | < ToxicFrog> | So why is 'fast' 10% slower than 'release'? |
| 21:44 | < AnnoDomini> | Errors. |
| 21:45 | <~Vornicus> | 10% slower to build, or 10% slower to run? |
| 21:45 | < ToxicFrog> | The latter. |
| 21:45 | <~Vornicus> | and what language is this? |
| 21:45 | < ErikMesoy> | Dark magic. |
| 21:46 | < ToxicFrog> | 1DC, a C variant with extensions for IMAP-based architectures. |
| 21:46 | < ToxicFrog> | Found it. |
| 21:46 | <~Vornicus> | What was going on? |
| 21:47 | < ToxicFrog> | 'fast' changes the code size enough that the alignment of the PU DMEM array changes. This places it out of alignment for correct use by a PU, which the initialization code must compensate for. |
| 21:47 | < ToxicFrog> | In 'release', it happens to be aligned perfectly. |
| 21:48 | <~Vornicus> | wow. |
| 21:54 | < ToxicFrog> | This means that release performs some additional safety checks, but gets to skip all of the alignment-compensation code, a win of about .6 microseconds per core. |
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