| --- Log opened Wed Feb 22 00:00:41 2012 |
| 00:21 | <@TheWatcher> | |
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| 00:22 | <@TheWatcher> | Yes. |
| 00:23 | < Namegduf> | splendid; |
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| 00:50 | <&McMartin> | actually_i_do_mind (Exception &e) |
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| 03:29 | <&Derakon> | Blah, I find myself wanting a game that is basically Devil May Cry crossed with Legend of Zelda 1. |
| 03:30 | <&McMartin> | So, Zelda 2, modernized?~ |
| 03:30 | <&Derakon> | Top-down 2D melee-oriented combat with launching and rolls and so on.. |
| 03:30 | <&Derakon> | No, because top-down. |
| 03:31 | <&Derakon> | One of these days I should probably figure out proper 3D OpenGL. |
| 03:31 | <&Derakon> | And semi-low-poly modeling. |
| 03:44 | <~Vornicus> | I need to get this random mission design shit out of my head |
| 03:46 | | * McMartin was very happy with the models ASCII made for him for Sable |
| 03:46 | <&McMartin> | Although my Descent-1-y actually-drawn-on-graph-paper models were more fun than they should have been. |
| 03:47 | <&Derakon> | Yeah, I'd need actually animated things if I wanted to do proper melee combat. |
| 03:47 | <&Derakon> | Like, more than just spinning. |
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| 03:59 | <&Derakon> | It occurs to me that aside from the platforming segments, there's not a whole lot of depth information needed in DMC1. |
| 04:00 | <&McMartin> | This does seem to be largely true, though that style of combat is well-served by an angled if not truly isometric viewpoint |
| 04:00 | <&McMartin> | See also: Crusader: No Remorse |
| 04:00 | <&Derakon> | Which I've also not played, but yeah. |
| 04:01 | <&Derakon> | "Top down" doesn't necessarily mean 90? perpendicular. |
| 04:02 | <&McMartin> | http://i39.tinypic.com/v4qv4j.jpg |
| 04:03 | <&Derakon> | The main thing about not needing true 3D is that it simplifies the physics immensely. |
| 04:03 | <&Derakon> | Also you can get away with simpler camera controls. |
| 04:03 | | * McMartin nods |
| 04:03 | <&McMartin> | CNR has agruably too-primitive camera |
| 04:03 | <&McMartin> | It's entirely fixed, and it doesn't smooth-scroll |
| 04:03 | <&McMartin> | It's snap-scrolled isometric |
| 04:03 | <&Derakon> | Well, it's not true 3D |
| 04:03 | <&Derakon> | Oh, snap-scrolling. |
| 04:04 | <~Vornicus> | ew, snap-scroll |
| 04:05 | <~Vornicus> | Many a good game was ruined on the C64 by snap-scrolling. |
| 04:05 | <&McMartin> | Machines in 1995 couldn't actually smooth-scroll Crusader graphics acceptably. |
| 04:05 | <~Vornicus> | Not that they could do much else, but it makes them Really Hard To Play. |
| 04:06 | <&Derakon> | MSX Gradius looks really weird, for example. |
| 04:06 | <&McMartin> | CNR at least was Pretty Good about snap scrolling being Not Stupid |
| 04:06 | <&McMartin> | The MSX was awful because IIRC the damn thing didn't even have proper *sprites* |
| 04:08 | <~Vornicus> | Not Stupid in what sense/ |
| 04:10 | <~Vornicus> | (even worse than snap-scrolling though was the crazy stuff where you had individual screens and physics worked across them. I'm looking at you, Spindizzy) |
| 04:10 | | * Derakon watches a YouTube video of Gradius 2 on the MSX, amuseds at a commenter saying "You can tell Konami didn't use their best teams on this one because they misspelled "missile" as "missilie"." |
| 04:11 | <&McMartin> | Vorn: You were very rarely engaged by enemies you couldn't see, and if you were, systematically giving that direction a lead tattoo will have you covered. |
| 04:12 | <&Derakon> | So in other words they designed their game world with the technical limitations in mind. |
| 04:12 | <~Vornicus> | Which is smart. |
| 04:12 | <&McMartin> | Pretty much |
| 04:13 | <&McMartin> | I don't recall ever being caught by an invisible camera. |
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| 06:19 | < Rhamphoryncus> | So, quiz time: my math was out by a factor of ~3.636. Can anybody guess what the problem was? :) |
| 06:19 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Hint: this was a calculation of speed |
| 06:25 | <@jerith> | m/s vs km/h? |
| 06:25 | | * jerith has done that. |
| 06:28 | <~Vornicus> | I personally go english - metric - english to go from mi/h to ft/s |
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| 06:51 | < Rhamphoryncus> | jerith: divided by 60 when I should have multiplied |
| 06:51 | < Rhamphoryncus> | plus an extra factor of 1000 |
| 06:51 | < Rhamphoryncus> | I'm converting rpm into km/h and 3.636 was a gear ratio |
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| 10:16 | | * TheWatcher eyes php, tries to work out the equivalent of %matchash = $foo =~ /^(\w+)\s*=\s*(.*)$/gm; |
| 10:23 | <@TheWatcher> | As far as I can tell, you can't do it - needs a preg_match_all to capture the fields in a flat array, and then walk the array converting it to a hash. Blegh |
| 10:39 | <@jerith> | Yay PHP. |
| 11:29 | | * TheWatcher also stabs mediawiki in the head for apparently making it impossible to add javascript to the <head> |
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| 11:39 | <@TheWatcher> | Oh, wait, it might be possible through arcane incantations with the resource loader. wonderful. |
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| 13:14 | | * TheWatcher eyes |
| 13:15 | <@TheWatcher> | Why does this work fine if I turn $wgResourceLoaderDebug on, but not if I turn it off. WTF |
| 13:17 | <@TheWatcher> | Oh, that's why, it looks like resourceloader's minifier is breaking it. Lovely. |
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| 13:29 | <@rstamer> | TheWatcher: preg_match_callback might be cleaner |
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| 13:38 | < maoranma> | werpderp |
| 13:42 | < maoranma> | God help me, I discovered DiscworldMUD |
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| 13:47 | <@jerith> | maoranma: I tried it, and it didn't grab me. |
| 13:48 | < maoranma> | It actually pretty neat. The skill system is really weird though |
| 13:49 | < maoranma> | afk class |
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| 17:30 | | * celticminstrel wonders how easy it would be to translate numpy code to Maple code. |
| 17:31 | | * Tamber pours syrup into it. |
| 17:31 | <@jerith> | Some stuff would probably be easy. Other stuff would probably be hard. |
| 17:35 | < celticminstrel> | ...of course. Bah. |
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| 19:39 | < Vornucopia> | Gnah. Doing this without an actual set class is a pain |
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| 19:42 | < Vornucopia> | (prime number generation via seiving) |
| 19:43 | < Vornucopia> | (sieving, I can spell) |
| 19:43 | < maoranma> | Allegedly |
| 19:46 | <@jerith> | Vornucopia: What language? |
| 19:46 | < Vornucopia> | js, building an app that demonstrates prime factorization. |
| 19:48 | < Vornucopia> | I have some parts of a js set implementation floating around somewhere. |
| 19:48 | < maoranma> | I made a function in python that takes an arbitrary coordinate, and prints from top left to bottom right row by row the coordinates between a given range based as if the initial coordinate were the origin |
| 19:51 | < Vornucopia> | Though really I guess merge-subtract on sorted arrays would work better. |
| 19:52 | < maoranma> | Maybe, it's basically, we have an array of strings, and we wanted only the strings that are a certain distance away from a given point in that array, given in the correct order as a new array |
| 19:53 | < Vornucopia> | I think you're misreading my monologue as a response. I can't actually tell what you're doing. |
| 19:53 | < maoranma> | def see(ax,ay): |
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| 19:53 | < maoranma> | for sy in reversed(range(-5,6)): |
| 19:53 | < maoranma> | for sx in range(-5,6): |
| 19:53 | < maoranma> | print (sx-ax,sy-ay) |
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| 19:54 | < Vornucopia> | So you're showing the 11 x 11 range around the origin, except as offsets from a different location. |
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| 19:55 | < maoranma> | Yes, that's a much better definition than the one I offered. |
| 19:55 | < Vornucopia> | Not necessarily, but the fact that you agreed means I got it. :) |
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| 19:56 | < maoranma> | It's our lab practum for our intro to programming class, we're making a silly little tank game in python |
| 19:57 | < Vornucopia> | Are you going to call it WOMBAT |
| 19:57 | < maoranma> | Haha, I'll suggest that to Philip |
| 19:58 | < maoranma> | He have four in our group (two too many imo -_-) |
| 19:58 | <@jerith> | 21:52 < mithrandi> * cmccann: Ruby is a fine language if you're secretly a lisp |
| 19:58 | <@jerith> | 21:52 < mithrandi> programmer but want to hide behing perl and smalltalk so nobody |
| 19:58 | <@jerith> | 21:52 < mithrandi> catches you |
| 19:59 | < Vornucopia> | Heh |
| 19:59 | < maoranma> | Philip is doing our core coding, and I'm doing machanics, and our VC guy is doing our "graphics" and arena |
| 19:59 | < maoranma> | And our fourth guy will have his name on it somewhere |
| 20:00 | <@jerith> | VC guy? |
| 20:00 | < maoranma> | Visual communications |
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| 20:21 | < Vornucopia> | arg, my kingdom for array-flattening arguments |
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| 20:22 | < maoranma> | How would I got about doing that merge-subtract array thinging you were talking about? |
| 20:22 | <@jerith> | "You can't flatten arrays!" "Yes I can!" "No you can't!" |
| 20:22 | < Vornucopia> | maoranma: considering that it wasn't actually about your thing, you wouldn't, well, okay, let me code it and show you. |
| 20:22 | < maoranma> | lol, okay |
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| 20:31 | < Vornucopia> | http://pastebin.starforge.co.uk/496 Very simple implementation; takes two sorted arrays and returns what's in the first but not the second. |
| 20:31 | < Vornucopia> | By putting pushes in different places you can change it to intersection, union, symmetric difference... |
| 20:36 | < Vornucopia> | (intersection is just the ==, union is all three; symmetric difference is just the two non-==) |
| 20:38 | < maoranma> | Interesting |
| 20:38 | < Vornucopia> | Though actually I screwed it up somewhat |
| 20:38 | < maoranma> | Is it in pseudocode? |
| 20:39 | < Vornucopia> | Javascript |
| 20:39 | < maoranma> | Ahh |
| 20:39 | < Vornucopia> | There needs to be more loop there though |
| 20:39 | < Vornucopia> | If it were pseudocode I'd do it Python shaped |
| 20:40 | < Vornucopia> | But the bug here is, if a goes higher than b, then I'll lose all the a stuff after the last b |
| 20:43 | < Vornucopia> | http://pastebin.starforge.co.uk/497 so that fixes it. |
| 20:47 | < maoranma> | What's a good way to fill an array (or a list of lists?) with empty strings in python quickly? |
| 20:47 | < Vornucopia> | 1-dimensional, or 2? |
| 20:47 | < maoranma> | 2 |
| 20:48 | < Vornucopia> | [["" for y in range(10)] for x in range(10)] |
| 20:49 | < maoranma> | And that makes a 10x10 array? |
| 20:49 | < Vornucopia> | yep |
| 20:49 | < maoranma> | Cool, I'll have to remember that |
| 20:49 | < maoranma> | What's with that syntax though? |
| 20:49 | < Vornucopia> | List Comprehensions |
| 20:50 | < maoranma> | That is apparently new to me |
| 20:50 | < Vornucopia> | You also get Generator Expressions that look about the same but give you iterators, use () instead of []; in 2.7 and python3 you get set and dict comprehensions too, using {}. |
| 20:54 | < maoranma> | http://pastebin.starforge.co.uk/498 |
| 20:54 | < maoranma> | There is what we are working on so far |
| 20:55 | < maoranma> | And yes, I know his printMap() could've been done with dictionaries better |
| 20:55 | < maoranma> | I've already yelled at him to fix that |
| 20:56 | < Vornucopia> | Yeah, there's a lot to be fixed in here; might I recommend pulling the pictures into a plain text file? |
| 20:57 | < maoranma> | Good idea, I'll fire that at him too |
| 20:57 | < Vornucopia> | Simple format, something like "TRW" on one line and then three more lines of the actual picture data |
| 20:58 | < Vornucopia> | er, TRC |
| 20:58 | < maoranma> | Will have to recontruct it into an array though |
| 20:58 | < maoranma> | or matrix, or whatever we're calling them |
| 20:58 | < Vornucopia> | Not a problem, that's what your loader function is for. |
| 20:59 | < maoranma> | wow, I have a loader function? |
| 20:59 | < Vornucopia> | Putting your resources straight into code is foolish. |
| 21:00 | < maoranma> | Well sure, I know that |
| 21:00 | < maoranma> | What's this about a loader function though? Something I'm about to write? |
| 21:01 | < Vornucopia> | Yeah, your loader function takes a resource file and loads it into the running program so it can be used. |
| 21:02 | < Vornucopia> | Most programs have quite a few different ones because they deal with many different resources; in your case I suspect you'll have two: one for game boards and one for "graphics" |
| 21:02 | < maoranma> | Hmm, can I have it run for as many files it finds in the directory? |
| 21:02 | < maoranma> | Or is getting directory info impossible in python? |
| 21:02 | < Vornucopia> | os.dir |
| 21:03 | < Vornucopia> | but not necessarily a good idea |
| 21:03 | < maoranma> | Ah, so I'll just pass the loader function an openfile object? |
| 21:03 | < Vornucopia> | Well, okay, don't try to load /everything/ |
| 21:03 | <&McMartin> | os.walk is also a barrel of laughs (but more often what you want than os.path.walk) |
| 21:04 | < Vornucopia> | You'll want to identify what files are actually useful resources for your chosen type |
| 21:04 | < Vornucopia> | Which can be done in a variety of ways; extensions is the classic |
| 21:04 | < maoranma> | Of course |
| 21:05 | < maoranma> | tree.res |
| 21:05 | < Vornucopia> | sorry, os.listdir |
| 21:05 | < Vornucopia> | That sort of thing, yeah, though a proliferatin of files may not be wise /either/ |
| 21:06 | < Vornucopia> | Many programs use a single image file for a great variety of different icons, for instance, and just chooses some small portion of that image for each place it needs an icon. |
| 21:06 | < maoranma> | A tileset |
| 21:06 | < Vornucopia> | Just so. |
| 21:07 | < Vornucopia> | you would probably be well served building a tileset "image" for your game |
| 21:08 | < Vornucopia> | Though I'd make it more like |
| 21:08 | < Vornucopia> | mmh, one moment |
| 21:08 | < maoranma> | heh |
| 21:09 | < Vornucopia> | Also, um |
| 21:09 | < Vornucopia> | Why does the left tank point right but the right tank point left |
| 21:10 | < maoranma> | Haha, because Philip is an idiot |
| 21:11 | < Vornucopia> | ah, fucking thing, pastebin eats double @s because it assumes that no language uses them |
| 21:12 | < Vornucopia> | Which is bad when you're doing ascii art, but actually /fatal/ when you're doing ruby. TheWatcher TheWatcher TheWatcher, line above notes misfeature in pastebin |
| 21:12 | < maoranma> | lol |
| 21:13 | < Namegduf> | s/pastebin/Ruby/ |
| 21:13 | < Namegduf> | Sorry, had to. XD |
| 21:13 | < Vornucopia> | No, it's sensibly used in Ruby |
| 21:13 | < maoranma> | Plain text should be okay? |
| 21:13 | < maoranma> | Syntax Highlighting = None |
| 21:13 | < Vornucopia> | No, no, Ruby uses @@ sensibly |
| 21:13 | < maoranma> | I should say |
| 21:14 | < maoranma> | I mean to prevent pastebin from eating @@'s |
| 21:14 | < Vornucopia> | Nope, I had it on None |
| 21:14 | < maoranma> | Huh |
| 21:14 | < Vornucopia> | But @@ is the "class" variable-scoping wart |
| 21:15 | < Vornucopia> | http://pastebin.starforge.co.uk/501 here's a sample of the file |
| 21:17 | < maoranma> | Ahh, so I read every 4 lines, pass it to the loader function to make it into an array for the code |
| 21:18 | < Vornucopia> | Well, you hand the loader function a filename, the loader opens the file and hands out 4-line chunks to the resource preparation function, and then the loader finally returns with a dictionary or similar of the resources it loaded |
| 21:18 | < maoranma> | Hmhmm |
| 21:19 | < maoranma> | Yea, dictionary would be pretty |
| 21:21 | < Vornucopia> | (also I feel like I'm talking at least somewhat out of my ass here; I'm an experienced programmer but not in this field. On the other hand, McM hasn't come in and told me I'm wrong yet and he's actually done this sort of thing, so I think I'm doing all right) |
| 21:21 | < maoranma> | It sounds reasonable to me |
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| 21:30 | <&McMartin> | Vorn: I haven't reviewed you yet, don't take my silence as consent~ |
| 21:30 | < Vornucopia> | hahaha |
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| 21:34 | < maoranma> | Grah |
| 21:34 | < maoranma> | phone was not plugged in apparently |
| 21:34 | < maoranma> | Anyway |
| 21:35 | < maoranma> | ]16:27[ <maoranma> Okay, so os.listdir('path') returns a list of files, so to get only files that end in the extention I want, I'd use some sort of list comprehension? |
| 21:35 | < Vornucopia> | I'd go something like, um, let's see |
| 21:35 | < Vornucopia> | [f for f in os.listdir(path) if f.endswith(".res")] |
| 21:36 | < Vornucopia> | note that different types of resources will want to have different extensions if you're doing it this way, obviously |
| 21:36 | < maoranma> | Right |
| 21:37 | < maoranma> | Lovely |
| 21:37 | < maoranma> | Listcomp is handy stuff |
| 21:37 | < Vornucopia> | Very very handy stuff |
| 21:40 | < maoranma> | I also found out about vars() |
| 21:41 | < maoranma> | Which is like some kind of super dictionary of all the variables in a particular scope |
| 21:41 | < Vornucopia> | No No No Bad Wrong Evil |
| 21:41 | < maoranma> | hahahaha |
| 21:42 | < Vornucopia> | Do not use reflection for something like this. |
| 21:42 | < maoranma> | Reflection, is that what it's called? |
| 21:43 | < Vornucopia> | Generally |
| 21:43 | < Vornucopia> | Don't use it unless you really need to. |
| 21:44 | < Vornucopia> | You almost never need to. |
| 21:44 | < maoranma> | I can't imagine where I would really NEED it |
| 21:44 | < maoranma> | But it's fun for string formating |
| 21:44 | < Vornucopia> | NO BAD WRONG EVIL |
| 21:44 | < maoranma> | HAHAHA |
| 21:46 | < maoranma> | lol = {'but': 'Vorn', 'why': 'hates', 'not': 'me'} |
| 21:47 | < maoranma> | print '%(but)s %(why)s %(not)s' % vars() |
| 21:48 | <&McMartin> | The rule for reflection in Python is simple |
| 21:48 | <&McMartin> | If you speak the name of hasattr() three times, the King in Yellow will show up and devour your soul. |
| 21:48 | <&McMartin> | Keep it under three and you've probably encapsulated it sufficiently~ |
| 21:49 | < Vornucopia> | Heh |
| 21:49 | <&McMartin> | (One place in Python where reflection is Actually The Right Choice, where it usually isn't, is for implementing the Visitor pattern.) |
| 21:50 | < Vornucopia> | All right, time for me to go back to work, or so |
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| 21:55 | < maoranma> | print('{lol[but]} {lol[why]} {lol[not]}'.format(**vars())) |
| 21:55 | < maoranma> | There, now it'll actually run, hah |
| 21:58 | <&McMartin> | See, that would be more efficient if you applied **lol instead of **vars(). |
| 22:00 | < maoranma> | True, it's more useful if the info is in several variables that aren't dictionarys |
| 22:00 | < maoranma> | And by more useful, I mean, makes Vorn hate me |
| 22:01 | <&McMartin> | It's better to just build a dictionary outright. |
| 22:01 | <&McMartin> | That way you can pass it around without fucking with interpreter internals. |
| 22:01 | < maoranma> | What's the visitor pattern btw? |
| 22:06 | <&McMartin> | That's too long to go into at the moment (I don't have much time before my work requires attention instead of letting robots run) |
| 22:06 | <&McMartin> | But it's basically a trick to give you the effect of multiple "this" pointers. |
| 22:06 | < maoranma> | Hmm, okay |
| 22:07 | <&McMartin> | The basic OO thing is you have a special argument (this) and when you call a method (foo) with this->foo() which function gets called depends on the type of "this" |
| 22:07 | <&McMartin> | There is a mechanism called "multiple dispatch", which basically only Common LISP uses directly, where you can have make which function it is depend on the type of arguments in addition to "this". |
| 22:07 | <&McMartin> | Visitor is a way of implementing multiple dispatch when your language doesn't support it. |
| 22:08 | <&McMartin> | The most common case for me is when writing a program analyzer or something, where the program is a tree of, say, SyntaxNode and I have a set of Pass objects that run across it |
| 22:08 | <&McMartin> | Conceptually what I want is a bunch of functions, each equivalent to a dispatch on Pass subclass and SyntaxNode subclass simultaneously. |
| 22:09 | <&McMartin> | Using reflection in Python lets you handle default cases more cleanly |
| 22:09 | <&McMartin> | Wiki's page is silly, but: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visitor_pattern |
| 22:17 | | * TheWatcher readsup |
| 22:17 | <@TheWatcher> | Eugh |
| 22:17 | <@TheWatcher> | I really need to fix up that pile of shit |
| 22:17 | < maoranma> | Vorn broke it! |
| 22:17 | | * maoranma <innocent> |
| 22:25 | < RichyB> | McMartin, if you dig up "zope component architecture" you'll find that someone implemented a close approximation to multimethods in Python. |
| 22:26 | < RichyB> | "Multi-adapters", dispatching on interfaces. |
| 22:27 | <&McMartin> | I'd have to dig into that, I think |
| 22:27 | <&McMartin> | I usually compare multimethods to the sorts of tricks I like to play in ML and Haskell with argument pattern matching, though. |
| 22:27 | < RichyB> | The implementation is not something that you really want in an inner loop but it isn't offensively slow either, 'tis mostly just a few dict lookups. |
| 22:27 | <&McMartin> | Well |
| 22:28 | <&McMartin> | When you get down to it, "a few array lookups" is how visitor works. |
| 22:28 | <&McMartin> | Unless it's Smalltalk, in which case it's a few dict lookups >_> |
| 22:28 | <&McMartin> | Inform 7's approach is closer to ML's. |
| 22:29 | < maoranma> | "First, distract target, then block his blind jab, counter with cross to left cheek. Discombobulate. Dazed, will attempt wild haymaker. Employ elbow block, and body shot. Block feral left, weaken right jaw, now fracture. Break cracked ribs, traumatize solar plexus, dislocate jaw entirely. Heel kick to diaphragm. In summary; ears ringing, jaw fractured, three ribs cracked, four broken, diaphragm |
| 22:29 | < maoranma> | hemmoraging. Physical recovery, six weeks. full psychological recovery, six months. Capacity to spit at back of head: neutralized." |
| 22:29 | < maoranma> | Victorian Superhero Shelock Holmes is badass. |
| 22:30 | < RichyB> | Psychopathic and verbose. |
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| 22:50 | < ToxicFrog> | McMartin: what is the key difference between multiple dispatch and, say, C++ method overloading? |
| 22:53 | <&McMartin> | TF: method overloading is non-virtual. |
| 22:54 | <&McMartin> | If you say c->foo(a), and a is of class B extends A, then multiple dispatch produces the (C, B) method call, where overloading will give you the (C, A) one. |
| 22:54 | <&McMartin> | Or rather A is a pointer to A, but is actually pointing at B extends A |
| 22:55 | <&McMartin> | You can't use overloading to say "iterate through this list and apply this pass appropriately to each child it has" |
| 22:55 | <&McMartin> | Well. Without rearchitecting it to use single dispatch, or without doing a visitor-like trike. |
| 22:55 | < ToxicFrog> | Aah. |
| 22:59 | <&McMartin> | ML and Haskell, on the other hand, is basically doing an explicit type-switch, because polymorphism in those languages looks more like a union with a field that indicates which field to use than like an array full of function pointers. |
| 23:01 | | * ToxicFrog nods |
| 23:01 | < ToxicFrog> | I keep forgetting that C++ overloads are resolved at compile time by declared type |
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