| --- Log opened Thu Feb 23 00:00:57 2012 |
| 00:31 | < maoranma> | There is the problem that Philip is a super fast coder and has a beta done before I get any input in X_X |
| 00:32 | < maoranma> | But, I guess my goal would be to move resources into files, create a loader function, and fix the elif ladder into something better |
| 00:33 | < maoranma> | And do some input sanitation |
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| 01:02 | <~Vornicus> | Okay home |
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| 01:21 | < ToxicFrog> | what is this shit |
| 01:21 | < ToxicFrog> | when a Pile creates a new item from scratch, the constructor for that item is never called |
| 01:21 | < ToxicFrog> | idkwtf |
| 01:26 | < ToxicFrog> | I can see it calling the ctor right here! |
| 01:26 | < ToxicFrog> | augh |
| 01:30 | < ToxicFrog> | ... |
| 01:30 | < ToxicFrog> | Ok, now I see why it isn't working here. |
| 01:30 | < ToxicFrog> | Given that, how can it possibly work at- oh. |
| 01:36 | < ToxicFrog> | How the hell do I fix this? |
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| 02:12 | < ToxicFrog> | Fixed! |
| 02:18 | < ToxicFrog> | And pushed. |
| 02:25 | <~Vornicus> | wtf happened |
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| 02:53 | < Rhamphoryncus> | ToxicFrog: I have no idea what you were on about, but you do give good pain. ;) |
| 03:02 | < ToxicFrog> | Vornicus, Rhamphoryncus: game is created. Client connects. Client takes action that causes a new object to be created. Client crashes because object is missing vital components. |
| 03:02 | < Rhamphoryncus> | heh |
| 03:02 | < ToxicFrog> | Analysis shows that this is because the object is being transmitted to the client before all of its constructors have run. |
| 03:03 | < ToxicFrog> | (specifically, it gets sent after Object.__init and game.felt.Object.__init run, but before game.felt.Entity.__init and game.chess.Piece.__init) |
| 03:03 | < ToxicFrog> | This turns out to be because all of the ctors are structured like this: |
| 03:03 | < ToxicFrog> | function __init(self, ...) super.__init(self, ...); ...do stuff...; end |
| 03:03 | < ToxicFrog> | And in game.felt.Object.__init, "do stuff" includes server.game():addObject(self), which transmits it to the client. |
| 03:06 | < ToxicFrog> | So the sequence of events was: |
| 03:06 | < ToxicFrog> | - Object ctor |
| 03:06 | < ToxicFrog> | - felt.Object ctor |
| 03:07 | < ToxicFrog> | - send object to client |
| 03:07 | < ToxicFrog> | - ctors for subclasses that set up things the client-side code depends on |
| 03:07 | < ToxicFrog> | (and the solution is "transmit the object the first time a message referring to it is sent to the client, not as soon as it's created") |
| 03:07 | <&McMartin> | This is also why making virtual method calls in ctors is dangerous |
| 03:25 | < ToxicFrog> | Quite. |
| 03:26 | < ToxicFrog> | The best part is? This problem with object creation arises as a result of a fix I made to object deletion, causing objects to be serialized as soon as a message containing them is queued (rather than when the message is actually sent) |
| 03:27 | < ToxicFrog> | So, previously, this wasn't an issue, as you are guaranteed that no queued messages will be sent until the ctor returns. |
| 03:41 | | * Vornicus writes prime factorization, and now prepares to instrument the hell out of it. |
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| 04:31 | | * Vornicus tries to figure out what instruments he needs. |
| 04:34 | < Rhamphoryncus> | ToxicFrog: quite a lot of bugs are produced in fixes. Not just an anecdote, it's actually true. |
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| 05:49 | | * jerith hands Vornicus a lute and a shawm. |
| 05:54 | <~Vornicus> | ...thank you. |
| 05:55 | <@jerith> | Are those suitable instruments? |
| 05:57 | <@jerith> | I have a sackbut and a hurdy gurdy as well, if you want those instead. |
| 05:58 | <~Vornicus> | GOt a theremin and a jawharp? |
| 06:00 | <@jerith> | My theremin's still under construction. My brother (the rabbi) has the jewharp. |
| 06:00 | <~Vornicus> | SPeaking of which I wanted to hunt up those "/fantastic/" a capella versions of Thriller that Mahal mentioned but Vash is netgaming so not now |
| 06:04 | <@jerith> | Vornicus: Toss links my way when you find them. :-) |
| 06:04 | <~Vornicus> | Of course. |
| 06:05 | <@jerith> | But for now, I must find pants and then breakfast. (In that order.) |
| 06:06 | <~Vornicus> | I recommend not accidentally getting those in the wrong order. |
| 06:07 | <~Vornicus> | For one thing, pants aren't very tasty, and for another thing, cheerios will not protect you from an indecent exposure charge. |
| 06:07 | <@jerith> | I'm going to start hunting in my bedroom, which is unlikely to contain breakfast. |
| 06:08 | <@jerith> | And the fried chicken place down the road does not contain patns that are not already wrapped around legs. |
| 06:08 | <~Vornicus> | fried chicken for breakfast? |
| 06:09 | | * Vornicus hunts around for jerith's newsletter so he can add it to his feed reader. |
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| 06:11 | <@jerith> | I frequent the coffee-and-sandwich place more frequently, but I need to go past the fried chicken place to collect the rest of my prescription this morning. |
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| 08:34 | < Janus> | Are 2D vector fields a thing? That's what I would call a thing that might describe a windy thing, right? I want to do the windy thing, but I wonder if there's already a windy thing floating around, all free to reference and good |
| 08:35 | < Janus> | I got a thing that's like a 2D vector field. But I somehow forgot I need to make it simulate too, which is a little beyond me. Everything else seems squared away! |
| 08:44 | | * Janus finangles. minces. Oh hey. It works slightly! |
| 08:49 | < Janus> | It's probably not very accurate, but if I just look at each 2x2 group of vectors, and try to split them evenly over time, it works like wind sorta |
| 08:50 | < Janus> | Even typhoon-ish stuff happens. Hotdog! |
| 08:52 | < Janus> | ... at least, I assume looking at the numbers. *tries to convince opengl to render it* |
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| 09:50 | | * thalass stabs eric python IDE |
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| 09:52 | < thalass> | never mind. It decided to behave. |
| 09:56 | < gnolam> | jerith: you have a hurdy gurdy? Lucky bastard! |
| 09:56 | <@jerith> | gnolam: I have a hypothetical one that I can give people over the internet. |
| 09:57 | <@jerith> | (The only real musical instrument I have is a trombone, which is close enough to a sackbut that I can fake it.) |
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| 09:58 | < gnolam> | Bah |
| 10:07 | < gnolam> | (A friend and I have plans to build ourselves one each, see) |
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| 13:05 | | * thalass glees |
| 13:06 | < thalass> | i have successfully written my first python program. Though it's ugly as hell. whee! |
| 13:07 | < thalass> | Or, rather, i have successfully made a QT GUI for it. I wrote the code a couple of weeks ago. Getting the gui and the code to match was a bit tricky (keep in mind i'm a noob haha) |
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| 15:10 | < ToxicFrog> | thalass: congrats |
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| 15:21 | <~Vornicus> | 2d vector vields are a thing |
| 15:21 | <~Vornicus> | div works normally; curl is weird and gives you a density field |
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| 20:14 | <&McMartin> | thalass: GUI programming is a separate skill, and props are due for getting it to work *at all*. |
| 20:14 | | * jerith concurs. |
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| --- Log closed Fri Feb 24 00:00:13 2012 |