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| 00:43 | < gnolam> | Ah |
| 00:43 | < gnolam> | Re: the, uh, interesting unit |
| 00:43 | < gnolam> | Apparently, it's a physicist thing. |
| 00:43 | < gnolam> | They like writing it like that to make it explicit that it's activity integrated over time. |
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| 01:02 | < McMartin> | Good to know |
| 01:11 | | Vornicus-Latens is now known as Vornicus |
| 01:13 | | * Vornicus spots a Gostak reference in the wild. |
| 01:16 | < Vornicus> | http://www.boingboing.net/2011/05/11/pickers-wallet.html#comment-1107317 |
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| 05:49 | < Alek> | luck. |
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| 07:08 | | * Vornicus fails miserably at describing dictionaries to Vash. :/ |
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| 07:42 | | * Vornicus also fails miserably at thinking of another smallish program to make. |
| 07:47 | | * Kazriko plays some Spacechem... |
| 07:52 | < Kazriko> | I have a feeling I'm going to have to see some of the solutions others came up with. I haven't found a way to get this solution below 10 parts or below 135 cycles... |
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| 07:56 | < Vornicus> | What puzzle are you working on? |
| 08:01 | < Kazriko> | The double bonds one. I think I know now how they got a better time though, I don't think you can get the best part count and best time simultaneously. |
| 08:03 | < Kazriko> | I went back to the very first puzzle and found a way to really speed it up by more than doubling the part count. |
| 08:03 | < Vornicus> | My records for the very first puzzle are something like 80 steps for 6 pieces and 55 steps for 18 pieces. |
| 08:04 | < Kazriko> | ahh. I'm up to 73 steps with 17 pieces now. |
| 08:08 | < Vornicus> | Double Bonds: 79/15, 117/7 |
| 08:09 | < Kazriko> | I think I'll need to play the later levels so I can figure the system out better, heh. |
| 08:14 | < Kazriko> | 60/18 |
| 08:14 | < Kazriko> | only 5 off. |
| 08:16 | < Kazriko> | 59/16 |
| 08:17 | < Vornicus> | Hint: rotation costs 1 step, but if done correctly can reduce the distance you have to take something... and each unit of distance reduction reduces the distance a loop must travel by 2. |
| 08:17 | < Vornicus> | (also i was wrong. 53/18) |
| 08:17 | < Kazriko> | Ah yes, rotation... |
| 08:19 | < Kazriko> | Ohh, i didn't notice you could also change which in and which out... |
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| 08:22 | < Vornicus> | You can change: which in, which out, which direction the rotation happens, whether the grab/drop is one or the other or both, whether the bonder bonds or unbonds... |
| 08:22 | < Vornicus> | The direction of the start thingy... |
| 08:23 | < Kazriko> | Ahh. that would make things more efficient. |
| 08:23 | < Kazriko> | knew about the start direction. |
| 08:23 | < Vornicus> | Also the location of the bond thingies... |
| 08:28 | < Kazriko> | figured that one out. :O) |
| 08:28 | < Kazriko> | 55 and 20 now. |
| 08:29 | < Kazriko> | there. 55/18. |
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| 08:45 | | You're now known as TheWatcher |
| 08:45 | | * Vornicus has identical records for Double Bonds and Best Left Unanswered. |
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| 08:47 | | * Vornicus cookies Vash. |
| 08:48 | | Vashicus is now known as Vash[t-x] |
| 08:48 | | * Vash[t-x] just goes to a corner, head asplodes in frustration and stuffs |
| 08:50 | | * Vornicus gives Vash a new, less frustrated, head. |
| 08:52 | < Vash[t-x]> | Vorn. |
| 08:52 | < Vash[t-x]> | You're an aweful teacher. |
| 08:52 | | * Vash[t-x] bites |
| 08:52 | | * Vornicus is kind of. Sorry. |
| 08:53 | | * TheWatcher notes that, if he's teaching you via skype and IRc, he'd need to be really good to pull it off |
| 08:54 | < Vash[t-x]> | we were in gmail. cam and audio |
| 08:54 | < Vash[t-x]> | thing is |
| 08:54 | | * Vornicus hasn't yet found a competent multiplayer notepad. |
| 08:55 | < Vash[t-x]> | he was trying to do a freaking guess the number game where the computer guesses. But the function/logic for the computer to be guessing is confusing |
| 08:55 | < Vornicus> | Which is why after about 3 minutes of poking at it myself I decided it'd be a bit much. |
| 08:55 | < TheWatcher> | Vornicus: Yeah, we've run into that problem a lot |
| 08:56 | < Vash[t-x]> | and then later he jumped on to something more easier, but then asked me to write something to make a list of numbers to 1k. it so happens I had no idea that range(1001) made that. BECAUSE I NEVER QUITE USED IT. well ok, I guess I technically used it once when he told me, but I typed in WIDTH, and it didn't look the same to me |
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| 08:56 | < TheWatcher> | We've had a couple of MSc students try to develop something, never really come to much, and it's currently sat mid-way on stack 4 for me. |
| 08:57 | < Vornicus> | It's quite difficult to do this without lookingover the student's shoulder. |
| 08:57 | < TheWatcher> | Vash: it's really hard to get a handle on exactly how much the person you're teaching online knows, and where they are struggling |
| 08:58 | < Vash[t-x]> | Vorn: didn't I tell you before that you should only teach me python if we were in the same room? |
| 08:58 | < TheWatcher> | (I shoulkd know, DL research, tech devel, and teaching is part of my job) |
| 08:58 | < Vash[t-x]> | and it was before we even started this |
| 08:58 | < Vornicus> | Yes. And then you asked anyway~! |
| 08:58 | < Vash[t-x]> | ... |
| 08:58 | < Vash[t-x]> | because you made it look like you could do this without doing it in person |
| 08:59 | < Vash[t-x]> | .. |
| 08:59 | < Vash[t-x]> | you know what? nevermind. I'm just blaming. |
| 09:00 | | * Vornicus cuddles Vash |
| 09:02 | < Vash[t-x]> | I'm sorry. |
| 09:03 | | * Vash[t-x] snugs Vorn tightly |
| 09:03 | < Vornicus> | No worries. |
| 09:03 | < Vornicus> | This is also not something I've ever taught from whole cloth before. |
| 09:16 | < AnnoDomini> | http://i53.tinypic.com/2m7fbep.jpg |
| 09:16 | < AnnoDomini> | (The filename I found this with was "emacs-fingers.png". :P) |
| 09:17 | < Vornicus> | Looks about right. |
| 09:19 | < TheWatcher> | Bah |
| 09:20 | < AnnoDomini> | BTW, anyone here play Traveller or some other space RPGs? I'm looking for tips on how to have fun with hacking. Messing with planetary networks, spaceports, ships, etc. |
| 09:20 | < TheWatcher> | Emacs was actually originally designed by Elder Things |
| 09:21 | < Vornicus> | 1. schedule orbital fertilizer drops at planetary parliament buildings. |
| 09:23 | < AnnoDomini> | :D |
| 09:24 | | * McMartin goes to download his Android devkit, notices the recommended IDE is named Helios. |
| 09:24 | < McMartin> | What Could Possibly Go Wrong? |
| 09:24 | < TheWatcher> | snrk |
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| 09:26 | < McMartin> | Re: Emacs Fingers: it was worse in the old days of SAIL. |
| 09:26 | < McMartin> | I've seen the keyboards. |
| 09:26 | < McMartin> | five shift keys. |
| 09:26 | < McMartin> | all significant. |
| 09:26 | < AnnoDomini> | Where would you put the other three? |
| 09:27 | < McMartin> | Ctrl, Meta, Alt, Hyper, Super. |
| 09:27 | < McMartin> | Basically, Esc and CAPS LOCK become new shift keys. |
| 09:27 | < AnnoDomini> | Ha. |
| 09:27 | < AnnoDomini> | I wouldn't be sad to see CAPS LOCK go. |
| 09:27 | < McMartin> | So, older keyboards actually put control where CAPS LOCK is now. |
| 09:27 | < McMartin> | This includes the keyboards Emacs was designed for. |
| 09:27 | | * TheWatcher randomly misses his Type 5 |
| 09:28 | < McMartin> | This makes using Emacs a lot more comfortable. |
| 09:28 | | * Vornicus gives McM the RUN/STOP button instead. |
| 09:28 | < AnnoDomini> | Oh, by the way, McMartin, you obviously play (or played) with futuristic GURPS. Ideas for shenanigans? |
| 09:28 | < AnnoDomini> | Vornicus: I remember that one! |
| 09:29 | < McMartin> | "Cap yourself at Tech Level 9, Jesus Christ" |
| 09:29 | < McMartin> | It's worth noting that I played futuristic GURPS back when we were still in Tech Level 7. |
| 09:29 | < McMartin> | We're, uh, now in TL8 and TL8 means different things now >_> |
| 09:30 | < McMartin> | But the game I actually ran was in TL11, and it was completely broken in far too many ways. |
| 09:30 | < AnnoDomini> | I meant in relation to having fun with hacking in Traveller, which is thematically similar. Sorta. |
| 09:30 | < McMartin> | Hm, yeah. That's close to old TL8. |
| 09:31 | < McMartin> | (They had grossly underestimated computer tech in the 90s. The cell phone I have now would have been TL9, maybe even 10, by the old rules; it is now firmly in the TL8 range.) |
| 09:31 | < McMartin> | (Of course, in the old scale, in TL8 there were regular passenger liners to Mars) |
| 09:31 | < McMartin> | Anyway |
| 09:32 | < McMartin> | By "shenanigans" do you mean "Anonymous-style pranks" or do you mean "deadly serious cyberwarfare"? |
| 09:32 | < AnnoDomini> | More of the former. |
| 09:32 | < AnnoDomini> | The GM runs a sandbox. I want to have LOLZ. |
| 09:32 | < McMartin> | Spurious bills for $8008.135 on everyone's credit cards. |
| 09:33 | < AnnoDomini> | Hahaha. |
| 09:33 | < McMartin> | Going more black hat, voice filters on the phone lines to turn everyone into Optimus Prime. |
| 09:33 | < McMartin> | Or Alvin the Chipmunk. |
| 09:34 | < McMartin> | (Going *totally* black hat, disrupting financial communications networks - or emergency response ones.) |
| 09:34 | < Vash[t-x]> | ... |
| 09:34 | < Vash[t-x]> | OPtimus Prime isn't used as much as Alvin. |
| 09:34 | < Vash[t-x]> | Alvin gets boring, I think. |
| 09:34 | | * AnnoDomini notes all these. |
| 09:34 | < Vash[t-x]> | That's just my opinion. |
| 09:34 | < Vash[t-x]> | =P |
| 09:34 | < McMartin> | (WE ARE LOSING C) |
| 09:36 | < AnnoDomini> | Why are we losing C? |
| 09:37 | | * Vash[t-x] shocks it back to life? |
| 09:37 | < McMartin> | Oh |
| 09:37 | < Vash[t-x]> | =P |
| 09:37 | < McMartin> | Peter Cullen reprises his role as Optimus Prime to be the situation announcer for Transformers: War for Cybertron. |
| 09:37 | < Vornicus> | Proxy image files through a thing that adds moustaches to everyone in every picture. |
| 09:37 | < McMartin> | Which includes a control point mode. |
| 09:38 | < McMartin> | (Proxy image files to replace everything with kittens) |
| 09:38 | < McMartin> | (KitteNet) |
| 09:38 | < Vornicus> | --do both. |
| 09:38 | < Vash[t-x]> | ... kittens with mustache? |
| 09:38 | < Vornicus> | All images are now of kittens with moustaches. |
| 09:38 | < McMartin> | In the control point mode, he spends a lot of time saying "WE ARE LOSING C" "WE ARE CAPTURING A" etc. |
| 09:38 | < Vash[t-x]> | .... |
| 09:38 | < McMartin> | I didn't really grow up with the Transformers, but many of my friends did. |
| 09:39 | < McMartin> | It was interesting to see them be genuinely demoralized by the disappointment in his voice when you lose a point, and redouble their efforts so as to not let Optimus down. |
| 09:39 | < McMartin> | And by "interesting" I mean "I gave up a lot of kills because I was laughing so hard" |
| 09:39 | < TheWatcher> | hee |
| 09:40 | < AnnoDomini> | Heh. |
| 09:41 | < McMartin> | (If you're playing as Decepticons, of course, it's Megatron doing the announcer voice, and he just erupts in white-hot ranty rage all the time.) |
| 09:41 | < McMartin> | (ALL THE TIME) |
| 09:41 | < McMartin> | (Even when you're succeeding) |
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| 09:48 | < Vornicus> | Randomly fiddle the calibration on climate control sensors so that every hour they change their correction somewhere in the range of +/- 3deg C |
| 09:48 | < McMartin> | Become wealthy interstellar spammers. |
| 09:51 | < McMartin> | WELL DONE, ANDROID |
| 09:51 | < McMartin> | Time to try actually building an app. |
| 09:51 | < Vornicus> | Speaking of spam, locate the primary senders of spam and send them SPAM. |
| 09:52 | < McMartin> | Are we heroes, grim vigilantes, or in it for the Lulz? |
| 09:52 | < Vash[t-x]> | a picture of SPAM? |
| 09:52 | < TheWatcher> | I'd prefer to send them pipebombs |
| 09:52 | < McMartin> | We've secretly replaced SpamAssassin with SpammerAssassin. |
| 09:52 | < McMartin> | Let's see if anyone notices^Wcares |
| 09:52 | | * jerith cares. |
| 09:52 | | * jerith cares deeply, and thoroughly approves. |
| 09:53 | < TheWatcher> | Although really, pipebombs would be too fast and painless. |
| 09:53 | < Vornicus> | No, an actual pallet of spam. |
| 09:54 | < Vash[t-x]> | ... how about a pallet of SPAM spam? |
| 09:54 | < jerith> | Delivered at terminal velocity. |
| 09:54 | < McMartin> | SPACE PIGS |
| 09:54 | < TheWatcher> | PIGS IN SPAAAAAAACCCCEEEE! |
| 09:54 | < jerith> | (In the physical and medical senses.) |
| 09:54 | < AnnoDomini> | McMartin: My character is kind of a good guy, but his methods are often questionable. |
| 09:55 | < Vash[t-x]> | I'm in space! Space! |
| 09:55 | | * McMartin declares Vash guilty. Of being in space. Sends her to space jail. |
| 09:55 | < Vash[t-x]> | ;_; |
| 09:56 | | * Vash[t-x] was just reminded of Portal 2! |
| 09:56 | | * McMartin may have been quoting it? |
| 09:56 | < Vash[t-x]> | ... even though I haven't played it |
| 09:56 | < Vash[t-x]> | um |
| 09:56 | < McMartin> | >_> |
| 09:56 | < Vash[t-x]> | vorn linked me to the "space" talk thing |
| 09:56 | < McMartin> | Yes |
| 09:56 | < McMartin> | It is also now, apparently, a ringtone. -_- |
| 09:56 | < Vash[t-x]> | rofl |
| 09:57 | < McMartin> | 30 seconds of "SPACE! SPACE! Dad, are you space? Yes son, now we can be a family again" |
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| 09:57 | < TheWatcher> | ... |
| 09:58 | < Vornicus> | At least they don't pick the bit where he's going "hey, hey, hey, hey, hey lady" |
| 09:58 | < Vash[t-x]> | XD |
| 09:58 | | * TheWatcher makes a note to bring the scalpel next tiem he catches the train, just in case. |
| 09:58 | < TheWatcher> | *time |
| 09:58 | < Vash[t-x]> | heh |
| 09:58 | < McMartin> | Well, by "they" here I really mean Stephen Granade, who runs the IFComp, built the Rubik's Companion cube, his own prop Portal Gun, and did the LOLtrek sequences. |
| 09:59 | < Vash[t-x]> | I'm going to laugh if I hear a customer's phone with that ringtone |
| 09:59 | < McMartin> | He is also an Actual Space Scientist and works with lasers for a living. |
| 09:59 | < Vash[t-x]> | I will kill a co-worker if I hear them with that |
| 09:59 | < McMartin> | He can have a Space Core Ringtone all he wants. |
| 09:59 | < TheWatcher> | That's fair enough, yeah |
| 10:00 | < McMartin> | (I have in fact met up with the dude for sushi a couple times because he's been in the area presenting to NASA at Moffett Field - a location you may recall from Mythbusters Episodes where they need a room big enough that it's going to take a hangar to do it) |
| 10:00 | < Vornicus> | I'm just gonna live with my dream of NSMBWii music as my ring tone. |
| 10:01 | < McMartin> | Any cell phone less than like 7 years old will take arbitrary MP3s as ring tones, dude~ |
| 10:01 | < Vash[t-x]> | ... |
| 10:01 | | * Vash[t-x] eyes vorn |
| 10:01 | < Vornicus> | Yeah, but I have to get the mp3s. |
| 10:01 | < Vash[t-x]> | .... |
| 10:01 | < McMartin> | Which reminds me, I should reload the Tyrian stuff into my new phone. |
| 10:01 | < Vash[t-x]> | that shouldn't be difficult, vorn |
| 10:02 | < Vornicus> | No, but. |
| 10:02 | < Vash[t-x]> | ? |
| 10:02 | < McMartin> | :effort: |
| 10:02 | < Vash[t-x]> | . . . |
| 10:03 | < AnnoDomini> | I was just informed that I outraced a buddy of mine (who is like four years older) to the master's degree. Man. |
| 10:03 | < Vash[t-x]> | yes, like looking for a fucking plane ticket to see your gf |
| 10:03 | < jerith> | McMartin: You've apparently never been exposed to the iPhone, then. :-P |
| 10:03 | | * Vash[t-x] glares at vorn's direction |
| 10:03 | < McMartin> | jerith: Oh, right. That requires conversion into an m4r |
| 10:03 | < McMartin> | I knew this because the Space Core ringtone is available as both >_> |
| 10:04 | | * jerith should call his gf and ask her to bring him lunch. |
| 10:05 | < Vash[t-x]> | I would like putting an OK Go song as a ringtone... but it would be a bad idea |
| 10:05 | < Vash[t-x]> | I wouldn't hear it with all the other sounds at work |
| 10:06 | < McMartin> | This is in fact why I usually don't do the music thing for ringtones. |
| 10:06 | < Vash[t-x]> | hell, you know how you can't ignore/you can hear/notice the 'old phone' ringtone? or something similar? |
| 10:07 | < Vash[t-x]> | I usually can't hear it at work |
| 10:07 | < McMartin> | However, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H99xWJvS2g seems like it should be readily recognizable. |
| 10:07 | < Vash[t-x]> | .... I have my phone in ring AND vibrate |
| 10:07 | < Alek> | anyone recommend a good, classic ringtone for me? it's an old crappy phone, only takes polytone and truetone, no actual songs. :/ |
| 10:07 | < McMartin> | I had the most awesome ringtone back in 2003. |
| 10:07 | < McMartin> | It was called "Triads" and it sounded for all the world like a B5 communicator chirp. |
| 10:08 | < Vornicus> | hey, an ambigram. |
| 10:08 | < McMartin> | At the time I tended to answer my cell with "McMartin, go" |
| 10:08 | < Vornicus> | Alek: the best text message ringtone I ever heard was in fact the power rangers beep. |
| 10:09 | < Vornicus> | Which is sufficiently chiptuney that it should be findable in that sense. |
| 10:10 | < Vash[t-x]> | heh |
| 10:10 | < Kazriko> | Gah. bad, bad game... making me stay up until 3. |
| 10:11 | < McMartin> | Chemistry |
| 10:11 | < McMartin> | IN SPACE |
| 10:11 | < McMartin> | (SPACE) |
| 10:11 | | * McMartin watches his Android emulator freeze. |
| 10:11 | < McMartin> | Dammit |
| 10:11 | < Kazriko> | Heh. Android emulator = irritating... |
| 10:11 | < McMartin> | ANDROID HELL IS A REAL PLACE WHERE YOU *WILL* BE SENT AT THE FIRST SIGN OF DEFIANCE |
| 10:11 | < Vash[t-x]> | ... I thought you were expecting it to asplode? |
| 10:11 | < Vash[t-x]> | ... |
| 10:11 | < Vash[t-x]> | McM |
| 10:11 | < Vash[t-x]> | You love Portal, don't you? |
| 10:12 | < McMartin> | I have a strong associative memory |
| 10:12 | < McMartin> | And a reputation for memethrowing. |
| 10:12 | < Kazriko> | That was a very good line. :) |
| 10:12 | < McMartin> | Portal was Pretty Good, yes~ |
| 10:12 | < Vash[t-x]> | Heh |
| 10:12 | < McMartin> | Also, I of course used that line for my Hello World application. |
| 10:13 | | * Alek nods. |
| 10:13 | < TheWatcher> | That poor android emulator |
| 10:13 | < Alek> | I'll take a peek for those, thanks. |
| 10:14 | < Kazriko> | Using an android phone has me pining for HP to release a decent phone... |
| 10:14 | < Vash[t-x]> | I NEED SLEEP. NOWS. |
| 10:14 | | * Vash[t-x] drags vorn to bed |
| 10:14 | < AnnoDomini> | Alek: Move GODS. |
| 10:14 | | Vash[t-x] is now known as Vash[Sleeping] |
| 10:14 | < Vornicus> | aie |
| 10:15 | < TheWatcher> | Night Vash |
| 10:15 | < Vash[Sleeping]> | Morning/Night, guys. |
| 10:15 | < McMartin> | SUCCESS |
| 10:15 | | * Vash[Sleeping] thuds on Vorn... while he still continues to writ ehis cheat sheet |
| 10:15 | < Kazriko> | McMartin, that was a triumph? |
| 10:16 | | * Vash[Sleeping] makes a note |
| 10:16 | < McMartin> | Not really; this is merely a moderate success. |
| 10:16 | | * Vash[Sleeping] sleeps |
| 10:16 | < McMartin> | We will define "huge" success as me writing a CCA and actually loading it onto my phone and having it run. |
| 10:17 | | * Kazriko did manage to get a Phonegap app working on his actual phone. |
| 10:19 | < jerith> | CCA? |
| 10:24 | < TheWatcher> | Cyclic Cellular Automaton |
| 10:27 | < McMartin> | Eclipse integration here looks pretty solid. |
| 10:27 | < McMartin> | I think that's a night. |
| 10:28 | | * McMartin also names his virtual testing machines "Atlas" and "PBody" >_> |
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| 11:25 | | * TheWatcher huhs |
| 11:25 | < TheWatcher> | Either I'm blind, or there is no AVL tree implementation in Boost |
| 11:27 | < TheWatcher> | Oh, wait, apparently one in Boost.intrusive |
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| 13:42 | | * TheWatcher hates all over AVL trees |
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| 14:26 | < gnolam> | TheWatcher: ? |
| 14:28 | < TheWatcher> | Oh, a combination of things, primarily issues of templated c++ implementation and serialising |
| 14:32 | | * Reiver eyes his cards. |
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