| --- Log opened Fri May 13 00:00:26 2011 |
| --- Day changed Fri May 13 2011 |
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| 06:43 | < McMartin> | Aha |
| 06:43 | | * McMartin finds his old C CCA. |
| 06:44 | < McMartin> | That arena is... too large for a phone, especially if I'm going to add dials. |
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| 07:06 | < McMartin> | Since I neglected to mention it in here: I have now deployed my first Android app to my actual physical phone. |
| 07:06 | < McMartin> | So \o/ for that. |
| 07:07 | < Alek> | yey |
| 07:08 | < McMartin> | Granted, it doesn't *do* anything |
| 07:09 | < Alek> | lol |
| 07:09 | < McMartin> | Just draws some text and colorbars of the old EGA 16 color spectrum |
| 07:09 | < McMartin> | But! It's an app, and the deployment workflow works, and you can rejail an Android after jailbreaking it. |
| 07:09 | < McMartin> | So hooray for all of these things. |
| 07:10 | < Alek> | :O |
| 07:10 | < Alek> | so basically, you made one of those old "test signal, station not broadcasting" signs? |
| 07:12 | < McMartin> | Pretty much. |
| 07:13 | < McMartin> | Also a Portal quote, and then a picture of a miniature pig wearing rain boots, because I asked a friend for a picture to test with, and that is what she sent me. |
| 07:13 | < McMartin> | (The Enrichment Center reminds you that Android Hell is a real place where you will be sent at the first sign of defiance) |
| 07:15 | <@Namegduf> | hy would you need to root your phone to install it? |
| 07:16 | <@Namegduf> | (I assume that's what you mean by "jailbreak", since Android permits sideloading apps to start with) |
| 07:16 | < McMartin> | Well, if you had an iPhone or similar, you would have to. |
| 07:16 | < McMartin> | Well, the whole point is that it *is* Android so I don't have to, yes. |
| 07:16 | < McMartin> | But it defaults to "only accept stuff from Google-controlled sources" |
| 07:16 | < McMartin> | And you can flip that on and off, as opposed to "crack it once and the genie is out" |
| 07:17 | < McMartin> | Also, it looks like, at least on this model, that the gravimeter (or whatever it is that the phone uses) apparently automatically deploys portrait/landscape shifts and fixes your layout appropriately. |
| 07:18 | < McMartin> | I have not however yet worked out the "scroll" thing. |
| 07:23 | < Alek> | gyrometer, prolly. |
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| 08:16 | < gnolam> | Alek: accelerometer. |
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| 10:32 | | * TheWatcher eyes mootools |
| 10:33 | < TheWatcher> | ... why is $('content') giving me an Object while document.getElementById('content') is giving me a HTMLElement, $() is supposed to be a fucking synonym for document.getElementById(), damnit |
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| 14:50 | < jerith> | <jml> 'To a first approximation, when someone says "Lightweight" what they mean is "I don't understand the problems that the alternative solves".' |
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| 17:02 | <@Namegduf> | s/I don't understand/I don't need a solution to/ |
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| 17:03 | <@Namegduf> | Preferring a lightweight tea making program to a generic ocean boiling and filtration system is not a bad thing. |
| 17:08 | < jerith> | "To a first approximation" |
| 17:09 | < jerith> | The first time you try to write a standards-compliant webserver that still has decent performance, you discover why Apache's heavyweight. :-) |
| 17:12 | < Kazriko> | I recently had to port a lightweight server to a low end vxworks system... |
| 17:12 | < Kazriko> | ended up being about 250k and use around 150k of ram. |
| 17:13 | < Kazriko> | Works OK for something on a 33mhz processor. :) |
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| 18:53 | < Vornicus-Latens> | j/me is still trying to figure out why LDAP is considered lightweight at all. |
| 18:53 | < Tamber> | Compared to what it replaced? |
| 18:53 | < Tamber> | (I don't know, I'm just guessing. :) |
| 18:53 | < Vornicus-Latens> | Well, true. |
| 18:54 | < Tamber> | "Lighter-than-Lightweight DAP"? |
| 18:54 | < Vornicus-Latens> | But it's akin to calling Saturn lightweigt just because it's smaller than jupiter. |
| 18:55 | < Tamber> | hehe |
| 19:03 | < McMartin> | Saturn is called Lightweight, because it floats in water. >_> |
| 19:04 | < Alek> | or it would, if anyone found a tub big enough. XD |
| 19:04 | < McMartin> | Details |
| 19:05 | < McMartin> | And yeah, Active Directory (what LDAP is the Lightweight version of) is fairly ridonkulous |
| 19:05 | < McMartin> | Though it is also, apparently, the sole reason a lot of sizable companies are MS shops. |
| 19:06 | < Tamber> | I thought Active Directory used LDAP, and minitru says LDAP is a lightweight version of X.500 DAP. |
| 19:07 | < McMartin> | Hm. |
| 19:07 | < Vornicus-Latens> | Yeah, AD is ldap. |
| 19:07 | < McMartin> | I guess I should shift that to "AD is bigger and messier than most LDAP stuff I see in use" |
| 19:07 | < Tamber> | AD seems to be a combination of LDAP, KRB, SRV records and etc. |
| 19:07 | < Vornicus-Latens> | Though I could never figure out how to actually talk to it. |
| 19:08 | < Tamber> | I tried to set up something similar, after several hours of trying to get KRB to work, I gave up before I started pulling out my hair. |
| 19:08 | < PinkFreud> | both AD and Apple's OD are similar in that regard, Tamber |
| 19:08 | < Tamber> | Both very carefully set up so they only really work with the respective vendor's products, right? ;) |
| 19:08 | < PinkFreud> | but yes, AD/OD both rely on LDAP. |
| 19:08 | < PinkFreud> | Tamber: precisely. :) |
| 19:09 | < Tamber> | (For example, if you're careful, you can fake AD; but then Windows laughs at you because your domain has 'issues' because it can't find the magic records to hunt down your LDAP server.) |
| 19:09 | < Tamber> | Also, bind laughs at you if you try to set those records up; and even if you do manage it, Windows continues to keep laughing at you. -.- |
| 19:10 | | * McMartin STR there are some Java libraries that can at least mix AD with LDAP. |
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| 19:31 | < jerith> | Samba seems to fake enough AD to get by... |
| 19:31 | < jerith> | Although I've never actually used this. |
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| 19:55 | < Zon> | WTF. I think my CD drive on my laptop jammed. |
| 19:55 | < Zon> | It ain't responding. |
| 19:56 | < Zon> | Pfew. False alarm. |
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| 20:01 | | * Tamber offers a rubber mallet? |
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| 20:07 | < Alek> | Unit of measure of code quality: wtf/m |
| 20:07 | < Tamber> | Mine's only 1 wtf/m. ...is a big wtf, though. |
| 20:08 | < Tamber> | In fact, I'd probably go so far as to say it's huge, and in neon letters. |
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| 20:39 | | * TheWatcher eyes rsync |
| 20:39 | < TheWatcher> | ... why is this reporting 8GB to transfer if invoked directly, but 210GB if I invoke it from the script, WTF O.o |
| 20:39 | < Tamber> | o.O |
| 20:39 | < TheWatcher> | I'd suspect a recursive symlink or something, but I can't find one |
| 20:55 | < McMartin> | Different options in an rcfile that direct invocations see but scripts don't? *shrug* |
| 21:00 | | * TheWatcher eyes, facepalms |
| 21:00 | < TheWatcher> | no, copy paste error in tardis' config file means I'm using the wrong exclude list! |
| 21:00 | < Tamber> | Oops |
| 21:01 | < TheWatcher> | Blithering moron tonight, that's what I am... |
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| --- Log closed Sat May 14 00:00:52 2011 |