code logs -> 2011 -> Mon, 25 Apr 2011< code.20110424.log - code.20110426.log >
--- Log opened Mon Apr 25 00:00:47 2011
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< vinayakrock3>
hi
05:09
< vinayakrock3>
anybody online
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05:34
< Kazriko>
Nice of Ubuntu to actually give us a legal alternative to purchase a DVD player. :)
05:34
< Kazriko>
wonder if it's any good.
05:35
< McMartin>
Heh
05:36
< McMartin>
Did you hear the story about the Finnish version of the DMCA challenge to decss?
05:36
< Kazriko>
nope.
05:36
< Alek>
ooh, tell!
05:37
< Rikushadow5>
Sadly, I must hear this story another time.
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05:37
< McMartin>
So, the EU version of the DMCA is actually even more restrictive than the DMCA proper.
05:37
< McMartin>
(Side story: The DMCA also can and has been used for good, and has some seriously hellacious counterstrike capability. It only deserves about a quarter of the bad rap it gets)
05:38
< McMartin>
Someone gets taken to court over the decss stuff.
05:38
< McMartin>
Judge: "Well, so, they're cracking an encryption code to play this, you say?"
05:38
< McMartin>
Plaintiff: "Yes. Your honor."
05:38
< McMartin>
Judge: "How do you do this?"
05:38
< McMartin>
Defendant: "Well, the key is printed on the DVD, so we take that and then decrypt with it."
05:39
< McMartin>
Judge: "Ignoring the sign that says 'please do not look at this' is not *circumventing* it, and even if it were, it's only a violation to circumvent *effective* copyright protection measures. Get out of here."
05:40
< McMartin>
(Side commentary: I am going to assume that 'the fact that we broke it means that it is not an effective copyright protection measure' would not fly generally~)
05:41
< McMartin>
But yeah, DVDs print their key on the disk; "copy-protected" DVDs put it in a place DVD-Rs can't write, and so that "key" is fixed for those.
05:44
< Kazriko>
yeah, the whole point to the system was to prevent copying of dvds that were protected, not to prevent decrypting them.
05:44
< Kazriko>
since they aren't copying them directly...
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< JoeyJoeJoe>
Hi i am looking for ringtailfox
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06:23
< Wotcher>
Heh, that gives me the chuckles.
06:23
< Wotcher>
That guy's an annoyance
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< Jebus>
Hello
06:32
< Jebus>
How are we
06:34
< Jebus>
P?rsh?ndetje
06:34
< Jebus>
Un? jam i m?rzitur mjaft, k?shtu q? un? mendova se do t? marr? SlowFag n? park, dhe fus shkopinj n? gomar e tij.
06:35
< Jebus>
Vornicus
06:35
< Jebus>
Do you like sticks up your ass
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14:24 * TheWatcher eyes this code, concludes that if it works, it;ll be a sodding miracle
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16:27
< Phox>
Sounds like my code
16:28
< Phox>
Turns out, after everything was said, it definitely didn't work
16:28
< Phox>
It wasn't surprising, really. Two weeks to take five separate boards, and interface them with a microcontroller to make a signal generator? Not likely.
16:29
< Phox>
It especially didn't help that the motherboard was designed in a night.
16:29 * simon_ grumbles at Linux virtualisation.
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< PinkFreud>
simon_: why?
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--- Log opened Mon Apr 25 18:17:19 2011
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< simon_>
PinkFreud, mostly because of my own inadequacy at networking and firewalling. ;-)
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< PinkFreud>
simon_: ahhh :)
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< Vornucopia>
Gah, hatred. Need to create text off of options but don't really have a robust text-glomming thing to build it with.
20:51
< ToxicFrog>
'text-glomming'?
20:51
< Vornucopia>
Text-glomming. Um.
20:52
< Vornucopia>
Okay so right now I am using a simple regex-replace thing to add options data to my instructions in multiplication drill. "The current setup is $q$ questions in $t$ minutes" etc
20:52
< ToxicFrog>
Ok
20:52
< Vornucopia>
Which works fine when the things I'm putting in are in fact numbers. But now I'm writing an addition/subtraction drill.
20:53
< Vornucopia>
Where i need to say stuff like "using addition and subtraction" or "using addition" or "using subtraction", or (in another location) "positive numbers" or "positive and negative numbers"
20:54
< Vornucopia>
Which isn't so cool because now I need to translate the options, which are by their nature short and not really human readable, into text.
20:54
< ToxicFrog>
Aah.
20:55
< Vornucopia>
Which suggests to me that I should find a more complete solution, probably that I didn't write myself because frankly that's a little bit crazy!
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< ToxicFrog>
This reminds me
20:57
< ToxicFrog>
I need to finish my bbcode post generator thing
20:57
< ToxicFrog>
Everything is done except for the parts involving HTTP POST ;.;
20:57
< Vornucopia>
So you can automate LP creatio-- ah.
20:57
< Vornucopia>
Yeah, POST is a frightening thing.
20:57
< ToxicFrog>
Yeah.
20:57
< ToxicFrog>
Basically, this is an update to the software I used when making LP Septerra Core.
20:58
< ToxicFrog>
Main differences being that it uses a sort of LaTeX-y markup (rather than being fed Lua code directly and using stupid debugger tricks to detect whitespace), and it automatically uploads images to lpix (the old one just emitted a list of images used, which then got shell-scripted onto the internet)
20:59
< Vornucopia>
Now I'm trying to remember the name of the thingy that handles stuff like plurals and such...
20:59
< ToxicFrog>
I kind of wish I could get away with uploading images using HTTP GET~
20:59
< Vornucopia>
hahaha.
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< Vornucopia>
Actually I'm kind of surprised there isn't a library that just does, um, "this is what the form looks like, here are my inputs to the form" and assembles the POST for you.
21:01
< ToxicFrog>
So am I, but I have yet to find one >.<
21:01
< Vornucopia>
hnnnnng, what the hell is it called, it would solve literally all of my problems! :(
21:02
< ToxicFrog>
Oh wait
21:02
< ToxicFrog>
Looks like libcurl supports that!
21:03
< Vornucopia>
\o/
21:04 * ToxicFrog wanders off looking for lua bindings for it
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< Vornucopia>
aaaaaarg what is the thing's naaaaaame
21:13
< Vornucopia>
It's not gettext, that doesn't do the plural tricks...
21:24
< Vornucopia>
neh.
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21:34
< Vornucopia>
Right, I'm about to give up and roll my own.
21:34
< Vornucopia>
Can't be too hard.
21:34
< Vornucopia>
I don't need all that many features. Right now I just need to be able to look up a thing in a dictionary based on the thing coming in.
21:35
< Vornucopia>
(translation: I am doomed to an eternity of not being satisfied with the code and trying to make it do things it was never designed to do in the first place.)
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22:14 * gnolam ponders buying the Humble Frozenbyte Bundle.
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22:45
< ToxicFrog>
gnolam: so am I and I already have three of the games~
22:52
< gnolam>
Aww.
22:52
< gnolam>
It seems to require PhysX.
22:52
< McMartin>
What's in the Bundle?
22:54
< gnolam>
And since they're described as PhysX drivers, that means they're not going on my computer.
22:54
< gnolam>
(If it is non-essential and has even a chance of executing in kernel space, it's out)
22:55
< gnolam>
(Especially if the company behind it has a history of being scummy about the product in question, like here.)
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23:01
< ToxicFrog>
gnolam: that's a whole shitload of games you won't be able to play, then~
23:01
< ToxicFrog>
(the reason they're drivers is that if you have a hardware physics accelerator, it'll offload to that rather than running the physics in software)
23:02
< ToxicFrog>
McMartin: both Shadowgrounds games, Trine, one in-development game and one abandoned game as a curiosity.
23:02
< McMartin>
Ah.
23:02
< McMartin>
Ehn.
23:03
< gnolam>
ToxicFrog: If you have an approved GPU and no filthy infidel hardware anywhere on the computer, you mean. :P
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code logs -> 2011 -> Mon, 25 Apr 2011< code.20110424.log - code.20110426.log >