| --- Log opened Wed Mar 02 00:00:43 2011 |
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| 02:54 | <@Derakon> | Beyond Abilities (the song I passed): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG7F876hHUU |
| 02:54 | <@Derakon> | Mischan. |
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| 03:19 | | * Derakon tosses http://spacewar.oversigma.com/html5/ at the lot of you. |
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| 03:48 | <@Derakon> | I wonder what it'd take to make that implementation of Spacewar networked... |
| 03:49 | < FurryHelix> | ...that would be interesting to see. |
| 03:56 | < Reiv> | Derakon: Probably not a massive amount, but it would ruin the purity of code. |
| 03:56 | < Reiv> | ...hm |
| 03:56 | < Reiv> | Unless you did it by highjacking the keyboard commands and piping them~ |
| 03:59 | <@Vornicus> | the internet is pretty much that fast now. |
| 03:59 | < Reiv> | Well, sure |
| 04:00 | < Reiv> | I meant the Shiny(tm) bit of that was that it was the origional code inside an emulator. |
| 04:00 | < Reiv> | I was suggesting we rig the emulator rather than the code. |
| 04:00 | < Reiv> | "Take commands from port 8867, pretend it's a keypress" |
| 04:27 | <@McMartin> | You generally need to introduce a delay of a couple frames if you're going to do that |
| 04:27 | <@McMartin> | It's "pretty much" that fast but it is not *actually* that fast. |
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| 06:18 | <@jerith> | http://www.malevole.com/mv/misc/killerquiz/ |
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| 06:50 | <@AnnoDomini> | That is hilarious. |
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| 13:33 | | * gnolam blarghs at CSG. |
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| 19:27 | <@ToxicFrog> | Dice implemented. |
| 19:27 | <@ToxicFrog> | And a generalized actions framework, finally |
| 19:29 | <@ToxicFrog> | And ui.render.png updated to track changes in self.face and self.back. |
| 19:37 | < Vornucopia> | Hooray |
| 19:39 | <@ToxicFrog> | And the RMI stubs given return values so that they can be used as event handlers, but I'm not sure if that's a good idea or not. |
| 19:40 | <@ToxicFrog> | Maybe that should go in the actions framework instead (if the handler doesn't return any value, assume true) |
| 19:47 | <@ToxicFrog> | (the issue here is that I say in the definition for felt.Die that it has an action { "roll", "Roll", "click_left" } - so it generates an event handler Die:click_left that tail calls Die:roll. However, roll is an automatically generated RMI stub that returns no value.) |
| 19:47 | <@ToxicFrog> | (and event handlers are required to return values so that the dispatcher knows whether to propagate the event or not) |
| 19:50 | < celticminstrel> | I'm guessing it's not possible to easily merge two git forks that have diverged enormously? |
| 19:52 | <@jerith> | celticminstrel: Depends on the number of conflicts. |
| 19:52 | <@ToxicFrog> | Depends on how enormously. |
| 19:52 | <@ToxicFrog> | And in what way. |
| 19:52 | <@jerith> | You'd have to resolve those by hand, because git doesn't understand the contents. |
| 19:52 | < celticminstrel> | Most of the files and classes have been renamed. |
| 19:52 | <@ToxicFrog> | If one has done a thousand commits on client/* and the other has done a thousand commits on server/* but none of them have made conflicting edits, it can do it automatically. |
| 19:52 | <@ToxicFrog> | Yeah, that one's going to get ugly. |
| 19:53 | < celticminstrel> | Thought so. |
| 19:57 | <@ToxicFrog> | You will almost certainly want a graphical conflict resolver to use with 'git mergetool'. |
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| 20:58 | | * Derakon mutters at Matlab, tries to figure out how to get it to load this .m file he downloaded without generating a spurious error. |
| 20:59 | <@Derakon> | (The first code line of said file is "function [data,back,ref]=sifread(file)", which AIUI declares a function named "sifread" that accepts one argument and returns three. |
| 21:00 | <@Derakon> | But Matlab is complaining that "Input argument ''file'' is undefined." |
| 21:00 | <@Derakon> | Sooooo, what the crap. |
| 21:02 | <@Derakon> | Hrm. Looks like Matlab does all kinds of absolutely stupid magic based on filenames and variable names. |
| 21:02 | <@Derakon> | :( |
| 21:03 | < Vornucopia> | arg magic |
| 21:04 | <@Derakon> | Now that I have it running, of course it doesn't actually work. |
| 21:05 | | * Derakon eyes this file. |
| 21:05 | <@Derakon> | How the fuck do you indicate the end of a function in Matlab? |
| 21:05 | <@Derakon> | Apparently the "end" keyword will do it, but is optional. |
| 21:06 | <@Derakon> | I guess it just assumes that functions aren't nested unless told otherwise. |
| 21:06 | < Vornucopia> | wtf. |
| 21:06 | <@Derakon> | Yeah. |
| 21:06 | <@Derakon> | So very not impressed by Matlab. |
| 21:06 | < Vornucopia> | Why on earth do people still use these weirdass semi-languages. |
| 21:07 | <@Derakon> | Because they have a massive install base? |
| 21:07 | < Vornucopia> | fucking noosphere |
| 21:11 | < Vornucopia> | Okay, global and local models and presets done, let's work on the view stuff. |
| 21:19 | < gnolam> | Derakon: ... it's M code. It's an absolute abomination of a language. |
| 21:21 | <@Derakon> | Gnolam: yeah, it's a bit like if Sebastian had decided to make a new language to implement OMX in. :( |
| 21:21 | < gnolam> | Heh. |
| 21:21 | | * Vornucopia wonders what a complete redesign of matlab would look like nowadays. |
| 21:21 | <@Derakon> | Python + numpy~ |
| 21:21 | < Vornucopia> | Heh |
| 21:22 | < Tarinaky> | Back from Aberystwyth today. |
| 21:23 | < Tarinaky> | A lecturer in the maths department made time to see me and my mum and answer some questions. I feel a lot better about doing the Joint Honours as a result. |
| 21:23 | <@Derakon> | Argh nobody in my lab understands that headphones on means you can't just walk up to me and start talking. |
| 21:24 | < Vornucopia> | Ignore them entirely. Possibly while hiss-whispering the words to the music, and headbanging. And maybe locate a pencil and start drumming on the desk. |
| 21:24 | < Vornucopia> | ...well, okay, maybe not. But. |
| 21:24 | <@Derakon> | Right. |
| 21:27 | <@Derakon> | Hrmph, great. Looks like I have the wrong version of the file format for this particular data file. |
| 21:27 | <@Derakon> | So it is useless! |
| 21:27 | <@Derakon> | Because nothing can read it except for the program which wrote it, which program cannot analyze it. |
| 21:28 | <@Derakon> | You would think there'd be a nice standard format for representing a 3D numerical array that it could output. |
| 21:28 | <@Derakon> | Mutter mutter mutter. |
| 21:47 | < Vornucopia> | back to work. |
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| 21:47 | <@McMartin> | Derakon: BIOINFORMATICS YEY |
| 21:48 | <@McMartin> | And by "yey" I mean "wow, IT is skilled labor after all, who knew" ;_; |
| 22:26 | | * Derakon takes a break, throws together a numerical approximator of the gravitational force generated by a torus, gets some weird results. |
| 22:27 | <@Derakon> | For example, apparently standing on the top of the torus (body aligned with the axis running through the torus) pushes you away from the torus's center, which makes zero sense to me, so I'm guessing I have a bug. |
| 22:27 | <@Derakon> | http://paste.ubuntu.com/574692/ |
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| 23:26 | <@Derakon> | Got a chance to look at it again; the "bug" was that the location <9, 0, 1> is not on a torus with major radius 10 and minor radius 1. |
| 23:29 | <@Derakon> | Gotta love when your software works fine; you're just using in wrong. |
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