| --- Log opened Thu Jul 08 00:00:44 2010 |
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| 02:34 | < celticminstrel> | Derakon: Methods in Python have a different type than free functions, as I recall, so that's why it works. :) |
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| 05:05 | | * Derakon eyes Jetblade. |
| 05:05 | <@Derakon> | How does adding a method to my Range1D class which is called by nothing cause my physics to break? |
| 05:06 | <@Derakon> | (The method is named "size" and just gives me the difference between the top of the range and the bottom) |
| 05:06 | | * Derakon reverts the change, the bug goes away. |
| 05:06 | | * Derakon restores the change, the bug does not return. |
| 05:06 | <@Derakon> | WTF. |
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| 10:04 | | mode/#code [+o AnnoDomini] by Reiver |
| 10:06 | <@AnnoDomini> | jerith: Is there a way to move an irssi window to another position? (For some reason, the networks I'm connecting to have switched turns, and now I'm getting a channel at window 2 that should have been at window 8.) |
| 10:07 | <@AnnoDomini> | I've been dealing with this by /window close and /join, but that's annoying. |
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| 11:20 | <@AnnoDomini> | C++. I'm having trouble imagining something. I want a matrix of classes/structures that are connected by way of their inputs and outputs. I want them, when I trigger update() for any of them, to take the results from another one they are connected to. I'm thinking of doing it with pointers somehow. |
| 11:22 | <@AnnoDomini> | I want to make something vaguely FPGA-ish. |
| 11:26 | <@AnnoDomini> | Is it possible to pass pointers to members of classes? |
| 11:27 | <@Vornicus> | good god, message passing in C++ |
| 11:31 | <@AnnoDomini> | Well, sanity damage aside, can it be done? |
| 11:43 | <@Vornicus> | I don't know, but C++ really isn't built for it! |
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| 13:32 | < AttWork> | Time to learn to use Expression Web oh yeahhh |
| 13:43 | <@ToxicFrog> | AnnoDomini: Yes it is possible, although it's probably better for each node to point to other nodes, not to parts of other nodes. |
| 13:43 | <@ToxicFrog> | That said, :gonk: |
| 13:45 | <@AnnoDomini> | Gonk? |
| 13:46 | < AttWork> | Everyone loves the :gonk: |
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| 13:47 | <@ToxicFrog> | http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-gonk.gif |
| 13:47 | < AttWork> | Damnit I was about to link to that |
| 13:47 | < AttWork> | It's in my buffer or whatever it is called where you copy to and everything |
| 13:48 | <@ToxicFrog> | Clipboard, or possibly kill ring. |
| 13:55 | < AttWork> | That was it, clipboard. |
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| 16:38 | <@jerith> | AnnoDomini: /window move <number> |
| 16:39 | <@jerith> | AnnoDomini: Also /window move {up,down,left,right,<whatever>}, but I never use those. |
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| 16:45 | <@jerith> | http://paste.ubuntu.com/460687/ -- Latest iteration (haha) of a function I have to rewrite frequently enough to be annoying, but infrequently enough that I have to figure it out every time. |
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| 19:44 | | * Alek wonders if he's ambitious or just insane. |
| 19:45 | < Alek> | I'm thinking of bidding to provide the all-in-one program and tool(something like an ipad) for the 2020 census. |
| 19:46 | < Alek> | I mean, I know one person can do it. the one person being me, theoretically. and do it better than they did for this census. |
| 19:46 | < Alek> | but what does that make me? |
| 21:08 | <@jerith> | A wannabe government contractor? |
| 21:25 | <@Vornicus> | gah, hate this. Need to turn this mutable: list of lists of sets, into an immutable in such a way that I can "modify" it and get another immutable that represents the result of the modification. |
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| 21:53 | <@Derakon> | Man, having an extra half-million pixels or so makes laying out GUI elements much easier. Yay no space constraints! |
| 21:59 | <@jerith> | :-) |
| 22:01 | <@AnnoDomini> | Now you can put the PETE button just where you want it! |
| 22:02 | <@Derakon> | Heh. |
| 22:02 | <@Derakon> | That button got changed to "Logout" ages ago. :p |
| 22:03 | <@Vornicus> | "pete"? |
| 22:03 | <@Vornicus> | why on earth was it called "pete"? |
| 22:03 | <@Derakon> | http://derakon.dyndns.org/~chriswei/temp/omxscreenshot.png |
| 22:03 | <@Derakon> | To tell you who you were currently "logged in" as. |
| 22:03 | <@Derakon> | Oh wow, I keep forgetting how horrible the old UI aws. |
| 22:03 | <@Derakon> | Er, was. |
| 22:03 | <@Vornicus> | what's it look like now? |
| 22:04 | <@AnnoDomini> | Like Google. :P |
| 22:04 | <@Derakon> | I've made some significant changes even from this, but this is moderately recent: http://derakon.dyndns.org/~chriswei/temp2/omxscreenshot20100427.png |
| 22:05 | <@Derakon> | (It predates the acquisition of the new third monitor, hence the big black spot) |
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| 22:48 | <@Derakon> | ...heh. The changes I'm making currently involve taking some existing UI widgets and moving them to a new window with a different visual design. |
| 22:48 | <@Derakon> | I've removed 272 lines from an existing module, and created a new module that's 501 lines long. |
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| 23:14 | <@Derakon> | activateAction = lambda objective = objective: objectives.setObjective(objective) |
| 23:21 | <@Vornicus> | wheee |
| 23:32 | <@Vornicus> | Oh that's ugly. Pass around, instead of the structure, a simple serialization of the structure. |
| 23:35 | <@Derakon> | :( |
| 23:35 | <@Derakon> | What is this? |
| 23:36 | <@Vornicus> | I'm building a logic game. The game state needs to be copy-on-write, which means, generally, immutability. |
| 23:37 | <@McMartin> | JSON |
| 23:37 | <@Vornicus> | (copy on write makes undo chains actually plausible - there are technically more interesting ways I could do it, but they're too complicated in general.) |
| 23:38 | <@Vornicus> | McM: almost precisely. |
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| 23:45 | <@Vornicus> | Which leaves only one question as far as data store goes: I need to tell the difference between given positions (the yellow house is at position 3 by definition) and deduced positions (the yellow house is at position 3 because I figured that out). Currently "yellow house" is actually abstracted away to "item 2 of type 4", so. |
| 23:52 | <@Vornicus> | hng. Best i can think of is to use negative numbers (n - board.columns) to do it. |
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