| --- Log opened Fri Jun 18 00:00:38 2010 |
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| 02:53 | < ToxicFrog> | Ok |
| 02:54 | < ToxicFrog> | On !windows, I store configuration info in $HOME/.felt/ |
| 02:54 | < McMartin> | Acceptable but not completely ideal on Mac |
| 02:55 | < ToxicFrog> | On windows, should I be putting it in $APPDATA, $USERPROFILE, or $MYDOCUMENTS? |
| 02:55 | < ToxicFrog> | McMartin: where should it go on Mac? |
| 02:55 | < McMartin> | On Windows, %APPDATA%\Felt. |
| 02:55 | < ToxicFrog> | (and is there an easy way of distinguishing that it's a mac via environment variables?) |
| 02:56 | < McMartin> | ~/Library/Application\ Support/Felt, and not really, hence why ~/.felt is acceptable~ |
| 02:56 | < ToxicFrog> | Aah. |
| 02:56 | < McMartin> | Hm, actually |
| 02:56 | < McMartin> | Is the expectation that this data is attached to the user or to the machine? |
| 02:56 | < Derakon> | Presumably you'll be using py2app to make the Mac executable, so you could probably modify your setup script for that to tell the program which behavior to use. |
| 02:56 | < ToxicFrog> | User. |
| 02:57 | < McMartin> | APPDATA it is, then. |
| 02:57 | < McMartin> | (Otherwise, LOCALAPPDATA puts it in whichever place is "don't sync this if you're doing AD profile syncing") |
| 02:57 | < ToxicFrog> | (my current thinking is, if $HOME is set, put it in $HOME/.felt/; otherwise, if $APPDATA is set, put it in $APPDATA/Felt; if neither is set, put it in ./config and emit a warning. |
| 02:57 | < McMartin> | That's eminently reasonable |
| 02:57 | < ToxicFrog> | (yeah, this is save files and user-specific configuration) |
| 02:58 | < McMartin> | (What you describe is basically what UQM does) |
| 02:58 | < McMartin> | (And it'll even be somewhere sane on Win7~) |
| 02:58 | < McMartin> | (C:\Users\McMartin\AppData\Felt, in this case) |
| 02:58 | < McMartin> | (C:\Users\McMartin\AppData\Roaming\Felt, actually) |
| 03:18 | < ToxicFrog> | Oh what the shit, mkdir isn't POSIX? |
| 03:18 | < ToxicFrog> | Er, isn't ANSI? |
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| 03:22 | < McMartin> | Neither are the readdir's. |
| 03:23 | < McMartin> | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa363855(VS.85).aspx for the Win32 equivalent |
| 03:23 | < McMartin> | (If you're in Python, os.mkdir *ought* to work on Windows too though) |
| 03:26 | < ToxicFrog> | (Lua. Python may be a better choice now that I've moved away from love2d, but I really don't feel like completely rewriting the entire world model) |
| 03:27 | < gnolam> | McMartin: Except os.mkdir chokes on directories with spaces, IME. |
| 03:27 | | * ToxicFrog adds LuaFileSystem to his source tree |
| 03:29 | < gnolam> | Which is a fucking scandal. |
| 03:30 | < gnolam> | You just shouldn't have to do os.system("mkdir " + whatever) because Python's own os.mkdir() is broken... |
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| 04:00 | < McMartin> | I'm very surprised by this, because I could have sworn I'd done the appdata thing before, and that *has* spaces on XP. |
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| 10:32 | < Tarinaky> | "COMPUTER BROKEN!" "How is it broken." "WONT WORK!" "Yes, but what's the nature of the problem." *cuts to the user sat infont of a smashed in monitor* "EMAIL!" |
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| 20:34 | < celticminstrel> | ...so, apparently charybdis uses +q to mean something like the opposite of +v... |
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| 20:38 | < ToxicFrog> | 'quiet' or 'muted', presumably. |
| 20:38 | < ToxicFrog> | A way of muting someone without banning them or muting the whole channel. |
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| 20:50 | < celticminstrel> | Yeah. |
| 20:51 | < celticminstrel> | I was simply surprised because it's neither the founder meaning that I'm most familiar with nor the RFC2182 (or whatever number it is) meaning. |
| 20:56 | < ToxicFrog> | Hah. |
| 20:56 | < ToxicFrog> | You can mostly depend on RFC1459. |
| 20:56 | < ToxicFrog> | Beyond that it's all server-specific madness and terror. |
| 20:57 | < celticminstrel> | So it would seem. |
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| 22:58 | <@Derakon> | Since I arrived at UCSF, I have reduced the file "sebH.py", which is described in the Official Documentation as "general routines (''helpful'')", from 1688 LOC and 122 functions, to 526 LOC and 21 functions. |
| 22:58 | <@Derakon> | I think that's something to be proud of~ |
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