| --- Log opened Thu Jan 29 00:00:12 2009 |
| 00:16 | < Tarinaky> | I;m so fucking drunk I can;t see the C on the Drunk. |
| 00:22 | < Derakon> | Hrm. I want to take a list ['a', 'b', 'c', 'd', 'e'] and turn it into "ab\ncd\ne". Any ideas? |
| 00:25 | <@Vornicus> | Python? |
| 00:25 | < Derakon> | Yes. |
| 00:26 | < Derakon> | Actually, what I want to do is turn it into [['ab],['cd'],['e']]. |
| 00:26 | < Derakon> | Whoops. |
| 00:26 | < Derakon> | That should be fairly straightforward. |
| 00:27 | <@Vornicus> | ...hm. |
| 00:32 | <@Vornicus> | target = [[a + b] for a, b in zip(lst[::2],lst[1::2])]; if len(lst) % 2: target.append([lst[-1]]) |
| 00:32 | <@Vornicus> | Unless you /really/ mean ['ab','cd','e'] |
| 00:32 | < Derakon> | I got it sorted out, but thanks. |
| 00:33 | < Derakon> | My solution is longer, mind you. |
| 00:35 | <@Vornicus> | I'm not pleased with mine; I don't think it should take that long. |
| 00:38 | < Derakon> | In any event, I now have a rudimentary UI with mouse support. Next I can implement the "configure controls" page. |
| 00:39 | < Derakon> | The green brackets highlight when you mouse over them. |
| 00:39 | < Derakon> | ...that didn't work. A moment. |
| 00:39 | | mode/#code [+o Derakon] by ChanServ |
| 00:39 | <@Derakon> | http://derakon.dyndns.org/~chriswei/temp/bulletmlscreen9.png |
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| 01:32 | <@Derakon> | Opinion time -- I have a class that handles the controls file, and another class that handles the main menu and help page. |
| 01:33 | <@Derakon> | Which of these should handle the controls configuration page? |
| 02:09 | <@gnolam> | The latter, but using the former. |
| 02:12 | <@Derakon> | Ha ha HA! Controls are now configurable through the UI! |
| 02:23 | | * Derakon uploads alpha-11. http://derakon.dyndns.org/~chriswei/temp/bulletml11.tgz |
| 02:26 | <@McMartin> | How close do you think you are to beta-freeze? |
| 02:28 | <@Derakon> | I need a new name, maybe some sound effects (thoughts?), and a bunch of spit and polish for the UI. |
| 02:28 | <@Derakon> | And of course I'm open to suggestions for other features to add. |
| 02:28 | <@Derakon> | Oh, and OS-dependent config/scorefiles. |
| 02:28 | | * McMartin will take a look shortly. |
| 02:28 | <@McMartin> | I'm at 63% downloaded |
| 02:29 | <@Derakon> | Sorry about all the extra cruft~ |
| 02:30 | <@ToxicFrog> | MyCatVerbs: re reliable UDP: if you need reliability, use TCP. UDP is for use when losing a few packets here and there is acceptable. |
| 02:32 | <@McMartin> | OK, bug 1: controls DFW. |
| 02:32 | <@McMartin> | Configuring them seems to, but the ship does not react. |
| 02:32 | <@Derakon> | Interesting. |
| 02:32 | <@McMartin> | .app file is living on my desktop. |
| 02:32 | <@Derakon> | Oh, hey, and there's some logging I forgot to turn down to debug. Whoops. |
| 02:33 | <@McMartin> | I think it's time I headed home. |
| 02:33 | <@Derakon> | Okay, I reproed it. Dunno why I didn't notice this before... |
| 02:33 | <@Derakon> | Thanks. |
| 02:38 | <@Derakon> | Stupid string-int inequality. Line 518 of managers.py should be "self.controls[action] = str(key)" not "self.controls[action] = key" |
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| --- Log opened Thu Jan 29 09:31:54 2009 |
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| 11:50 | <@MyCatVerbs> | ToxicFrog: it *is* acceptable for a few packets to get lost here and there. You ever wanna play an FPS where it wasn't? |
| 12:46 | <@TheWatcher> | I think is point is that you shouldn't /care/ whether the clients have got it |
| 12:47 | <@TheWatcher> | Sorting out that should be their end of the issue |
| 12:47 | <@TheWatcher> | You just send the packets, and let the client deal with missing packets, out of order packets and all the other nastiness that udp introduces |
| 12:48 | <@TheWatcher> | If you're waiting for a client to acknowledge that it received a given packet before sending any more, you may as well just use tcp |
| 12:48 | <@TheWatcher> | because you're just going to end up reinventing it anyway, going down that road. |
| 13:22 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Nah. I'ma end up reinventing about half of it. |
| 13:47 | <@Reiver> | Derakon[AFK]: If/when you get a windows version up, I'll happily beta test it |
| 14:27 | < simontwo> | MyCatVerbs, are you going to save significant bandwidth that way? |
| 15:06 | | * gnolam stabs Vista's sound system again and again and AGAIN. |
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| 20:22 | <@MyCatVerbs> | simontwo: Bandwidth? No difference whatsoever, of course. |
| 20:23 | <@Derakon> | Dammit, now I want to add music to the game. >.< |
| 20:45 | < simontwo> | MyCatVerbs, well, if you implement TCP partially, it's not so as to ensure that packages arrive, and if not, retransmit them? |
| 20:55 | <@UndeadAnno> | Argh and argh. How exactly does one do a vector product? |
| 20:56 | <@UndeadAnno> | I mean the thingie you're supposed to use to get a normal vector to some set of vectors. |
| 20:56 | <@Derakon> | Multiply the vector components. |
| 20:56 | <@Derakon> | Oh. |
| 20:56 | <@Derakon> | Cross product? |
| 20:56 | <@UndeadAnno> | Maybe. I don't know the English name. |
| 20:56 | <@Derakon> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_product |
| 20:58 | <@UndeadAnno> | This seems to be the thing I'm after. Thanks. |
| 20:58 | <@Derakon> | NP. |
| 21:14 | < gnolam> | Make sure to learn the Rule of Sarrus while you're at it. |
| 21:15 | <@UndeadAnno> | Which is? |
| 21:22 | <@UndeadAnno> | Nevermind. I know what it is. |
| 21:26 | <@UndeadAnno> | I think I understand this thing now. |
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