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| --- Day changed Tue Oct 07 2008 |
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| 00:15 | <@gnolam> | Man, UNATCO has some data security issues. |
| 00:15 | <+Shoukanjuu> | Yeah. |
| 00:18 | <@gnolam> | And physical security issues as well. |
| 00:19 | <+Shoukanjuu> | Well |
| 00:19 | <+Shoukanjuu> | It's not like they're expecting you to set boom in the middle of the room and on desks to cause a chain reaction |
| 00:20 | <@gnolam> | Not just can I break into people's offices - while the guards stand idly by - but I don't even get punished for it! The cameras must be fakes. |
| 00:21 | <@gnolam> | And what's with leaving passwords and PINs out in the open? Man, I'd hate to be their sysadmin. |
| 00:21 | < Vornicus> | gnolam: what are you playing? |
| 00:21 | <+Shoukanjuu> | Deus Ex :P |
| 00:21 | <@gnolam> | Deus Ex (1). |
| 00:21 | < Vornicus> | aha |
| 00:22 | <+Shoukanjuu> | I refuse to acknowledge Invisible War as DX2 |
| 00:22 | <@gnolam> | It was on my list of "games I have and should finish some day", and with the discussion on it the other day... it got bumped to the top. |
| 00:22 | <+Shoukanjuu> | Old men. Ruling the world. |
| 00:23 | < Consul> | Heh. Google identified my Blogger site for Breadboard as a "potential spam site". Morons. |
| 00:25 | < Consul> | It was really just a stop-gap site until I can get real hosting anyway. |
| 00:25 | < Vornicus> | Presonally I think you should probably aim at Sourceforge |
| 00:25 | < Consul> | Still, I don't much appreciate some stupid computer calling me a spammer, especially when the automatic response is to lock the site until a human can look at it. |
| 00:25 | < Vornicus> | but I wouldn't get that until you have /code/ |
| 00:26 | < Consul> | Sourceforge is amazingly slow these days. |
| 00:26 | < Consul> | It took me four hours once to grab about 10 megs worth of source from their svn once. |
| 00:26 | < Consul> | That was in the last couple of months. |
| 00:27 | < Consul> | But they do have better web hosting options, I'll grant. |
| 00:29 | < Consul> | Google's hosting is a lot more elegant, I think. |
| 00:37 | < Consul> | But they do seem to take the most drastic action possible when they sniff something wrong. |
| 00:48 | <@gnolam> | And with the number of spam blogs out there, I applaud it. |
| 00:49 | <@ToxicFrog> | Personally, I'd suggest github, but that's because I prefer git to svn by far. |
| 00:49 | <@ToxicFrog> | And now: PCMCIA! |
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| 00:50 | <@McMartin> | Doesn't Google Code *use* git? |
| 00:51 | <@ToxicFrog> | Does it? |
| 00:51 | <@ToxicFrog> | I've never used google code, I was speaking of Sourceforge there |
| 00:51 | < Consul> | svn |
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| 00:52 | < Consul> | Err, I should say, Google Code uses svn |
| 00:52 | < Consul> | I've never used git |
| 00:54 | < Consul> | I've been called a git, so maybe it's the one for me. |
| 00:56 | < GeekSoldier> | ehn? |
| 00:56 | < GeekSoldier> | has anyone seen this cavestory wii thing? |
| 00:58 | <@McMartin> | I heard rumors |
| 00:59 | < GeekSoldier> | lamentably, the link is quite uninformative. |
| 00:59 | <@McMartin> | I didn't pay much attention because I already beat it |
| 00:59 | < GeekSoldier> | nod nod. |
| 01:00 | <+Shoukanjuu> | Ninja is toptier >_> |
| 01:01 | <@McMartin> | Pointman is top tier |
| 01:01 | <+Shoukanjuu> | Kirby >.> "Helper to Hero" >_> |
| 01:02 | < Vornicus> | THE THRICE-SLAIN |
| 01:02 | <@McMartin> | \(o.o)/ |
| 01:02 | <@McMartin> | THE DEVOURING PINK |
| 01:02 | | * McMartin was talking Audiosurf elsewhere, hence his first reply |
| 01:02 | < Vornicus> | I htough it was The All Consuming Pink, and The Devourer Of Dreamland. |
| 01:03 | <@McMartin> | Both work. |
| 01:03 | | * McMartin tends to sort of mix and match |
| 01:03 | <+Shoukanjuu> | (>'-')> |
| 01:04 | <+Shoukanjuu> | You will be eaten first when the Dread Lord Kur'bii the Devourer of Dreamland, the All-Consuming Pink, awakens from his eldritch slumber. |
| 01:05 | | * McMartin sends the white glove out to poke the slumbering Kirby |
| 01:05 | <@McMartin> | ("CONSUUUUUUUUUUUUME") |
| 01:05 | <+Shoukanjuu> | That is to say |
| 01:06 | <+Shoukanjuu> | When the Sleepy he ate wears off. |
| 01:06 | <@McMartin> | Indeed |
| 01:06 | <@McMartin> | Though in Nightmare in Dream Land, the game over/continue screen is him sleeping |
| 01:06 | <@McMartin> | And the hand pokes him. |
| 01:06 | <@McMartin> | If you picked "Yes", he wakes up and is prodded off |
| 01:06 | <@McMartin> | If you picked no, he devours the hand and goes back to sleep |
| 01:07 | <+Shoukanjuu> | In uh... |
| 01:07 | <+Shoukanjuu> | Kirby Super Star Ultra |
| 01:07 | <+Shoukanjuu> | I'm pretty sure it does the same |
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| 04:28 | <+Shoukanjuu> | You mechs may have copper wiring to re-route your fear of pain, but I've got nerves of steel. ?_? |
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| 16:59 | <@jerith> | Welcome, Tamber. |
| 16:59 | < Tamber> | ty :3 |
| 16:59 | <@jerith> | For those of you who don't know him, Tamber is clueful and smart. |
| 16:59 | <@jerith> | He is also sadly infected with php. :-( |
| 17:00 | <@jerith> | Feel free to lead him in whichever direction you think the light is in. |
| 17:00 | < Tamber> | lol |
| 17:00 | <@jerith> | (Just not *that* light. Or that one over there. Umm, the other one in the distance is a train.) |
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| 17:19 | <@Serah> | Here lies Tamber, his last words were a shame; "There's light at the end of the tunnel!" Unfortunately it was a train. |
| 17:20 | < Tamber> | hehe |
| 17:21 | <+Shoukanjuu> | Oh, you. |
| 17:21 | < Tamber> | Serah: sounds about right. :P |
| 17:23 | <+Shoukanjuu> | First Official National Videogame Archive? :O |
| 17:24 | < Tamber> | o.o |
| 17:25 | <+Shoukanjuu> | http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3170366 |
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| 17:26 | <+Shoukanjuu> | Too bad it's on the other side of the atlantic ocean. Maybe once my psychic power develops enough I'll be able to join in the effort of bringing everything back together again. :P |
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| 17:41 | <@ToxicFrog> | Start preserving the source too and maybe we're talking. |
| 17:41 | <+Shoukanjuu> | What do you mean 'source?' |
| 17:42 | <+Shoukanjuu> | They should probably preserve the source instead of the community to each >_> |
| 17:43 | <@ToxicFrog> | I mean the source code. |
| 17:43 | <+Shoukanjuu> | Yes. That would be better to preserve. |
| 17:44 | <@ToxicFrog> | Frankly, I think that developers should be legally required to preserve the source and dev tools, and eventually make it available - say, after 5-10 years, by which there's no licensing opportunities or the like - with horrific penalties for noncompliance. |
| 17:44 | <+Shoukanjuu> | Agreed. |
| 17:45 | < Tamber> | I can see that upsetting a few people, but it would be a bonus in the long run. |
| 17:46 | <@ToxicFrog> | Yeah. It'll upset companies like Topware that squat on their bloated haunches above a treasure trove of source and editing tools, refusing to go the minimal effort it would take to release them to the public because there's no immediate, measureable profit in it. |
| 17:46 | <@ToxicFrog> | My heart bleeds for them. |
| 17:46 | <+Shoukanjuu> | "Butbutbut instead of making ** million on a game, we'd only make (**-.3) million on a game because they'll compile out source D:!" |
| 17:46 | <@ToxicFrog> | And if you listen closely, you can hear an iPod Femto playing a 64kbps MP3 of the world's smallest violin. |
| 17:46 | <+Shoukanjuu> | TEN YEARS FROM NOW WHEN THEY'RE BUYING MADDEN TEN YEARS AGO |
| 17:46 | <@ToxicFrog> | Shoukanjuu: bullshit. They don't even have that argument. |
| 17:47 | <+Shoukanjuu> | That's what I'm saying TF |
| 17:47 | <@ToxicFrog> | Besides which, it's easier to just torrent a copy than build your own from source. |
| 17:47 | <+Shoukanjuu> | They don't HAVE that, but oh, that won't stop them from making it. |
| 17:48 | <@ToxicFrog> | True. Just as it hasn't stopped them bitching about how piracy, and not, say, publisher-supplied malware and inflated prices, is killing the games industry (which continues to grow year by year). |
| 17:48 | <+Shoukanjuu> | If there's even the smallest hint of projected loss, EA will scoff and go about its business. |
| 17:48 | <+Shoukanjuu> | Of course! v_v |
| 17:48 | <@ToxicFrog> | Anyways. Classtime. Later. |
| 17:48 | <+Shoukanjuu> | Later. |
| 17:48 | < Tamber> | seeya |
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| 19:10 | <@gnolam> | http://notalwaysright.com/whoaaahh-am-i-moving-the-mouse-or-is-it-moving-me/1258 |
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| 19:54 | <@gnolam> | Hah. |
| 19:54 | < Shoukanjuu> | ? |
| 19:54 | <@gnolam> | Herr Professor Doktor referenced "Wargames" at his last lecture. |
| 19:55 | < Shoukanjuu> | heheh |
| 19:56 | | * AnnoDomini fffffffs at Stalin in Civ4. God damn it. I had a nice, peacful empire coming along until you goddamned ruined everything. |
| 19:57 | <@gnolam> | Civ4 has Stalin in it? |
| 19:58 | <@AnnoDomini> | Yes. |
| 19:58 | <@gnolam> | Ah, in an expansion. |
| 19:58 | <@gnolam> | Thought there was something wrong with my memory there. |
| 19:59 | <@AnnoDomini> | After a very long and costly campaign I managed to seize Rostov, Novogrod and Moscow. Only to be surprise attacked by the Chinese. :E |
| 19:59 | <@AnnoDomini> | I should remember, when playing on Terra maps, to colonize the new world sooner, since everyone seems to be placed on the same continent. |
| 20:00 | <@AnnoDomini> | Then I could go all 'ahaha, you still have musketeers, while my ten cities on the other continent have allowed me to launch my research into the stratosphere.' |
| 20:04 | <@AnnoDomini> | Civ games, I note, continue to have a very serious flaw. This flaw is called "barbarians appear randomly and take over your cities meaning that you're fucked." |
| 20:05 | < Shoukanjuu> | Hotblood and GAR reduce life expectancy by 75% in extreme cases. |
| 20:05 | <@gnolam> | I believe that's why you build defenses, Anno. ;) |
| 20:12 | <@AnnoDomini> | gnolam: I do, but I prefer to have more than 3 towns hemmed into a tundra/desert corner of the world. |
| 20:12 | <@AnnoDomini> | The other civilizations are voracious and if I do not expand even more rapidly, I lose in the long run. |
| 20:13 | < Shoukanjuu> | Like Starcraft. Except they actually move faster than you. |
| 20:14 | <@gnolam> | So you want even more towns hemmed into a tundra/desert corner of the world? Man, you really hate your people, don't you? ;-) |
| 20:16 | < Shoukanjuu> | Well, it would provide great retreat opportunities. Imagine if they attacked a town or something...you would be used to the heat of the desert or lack of heat in tundra |
| 20:16 | < Shoukanjuu> | Moreso then they are, at least... |
| 20:16 | < Shoukanjuu> | And it would be like Hitler's march to Moscow. :P |
| 20:21 | <@AnnoDomini> | gnolam: ;) |
| 20:21 | | * AnnoDomini wanders off to have another try at this. |
| 20:23 | | * gnolam wanders off to eat kladdkaka, play Deus Ex and forget he ever heard about concurrent programming. |
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| 20:40 | | * AnnoDomini makes a beeline for the Compass. |
| 20:41 | < Shoukanjuu> | I...I...I thought you were a GEP gun. |
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| 22:04 | <@AnnoDomini> | That didn't go very well. :/ |
| 22:05 | <@AnnoDomini> | I got the Compass early and went ahead to found a shitload of cities in the New World. |
| 22:05 | <@AnnoDomini> | Problem is, I got into massive debt for 'colony expenses' and 'distance expenses'. |
| 22:06 | <@AnnoDomini> | Next time, I need to build a Courthouse first in each of the colony towns. |
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| 22:37 | < Shoukanjuu> | Good job, AD. |
| 22:46 | <@AnnoDomini> | Meh. More like, "Good job getting -50 gp/turn." |
| 22:47 | < Shoukanjuu> | I didn't need to go into that much detail. |
| 22:54 | <@AnnoDomini> | "Sorry, FuckYouAIM is already registered as a Screen Name." |
| 22:54 | <@gnolam> | Hah. |
| 22:54 | <@gnolam> | But... why AIM? :P |
| 22:55 | <@AnnoDomini> | I need to contact someone who has AIM and pretty much nothing else. |
| 22:55 | | * gnolam pitys the foo. |
| 22:56 | <@gnolam> | *pities |
| 22:56 | <@gnolam> | Dammit. |
| 22:56 | <@gnolam> | Am I losing my grammar too now? |
| 22:56 | <@AnnoDomini> | FINALLY. |
| 22:57 | <@AnnoDomini> | I almost thought I'd accidentally repeat the beginning of the noob comic. |
| 22:58 | <@AnnoDomini> | http://www.thenoobcomic.com/index.php?pos=3 <- For reference. |
| 23:00 | <@AnnoDomini> | Are the suspiciously named "AIM Bots" that invited themselves onto my contact list useful for anything? |
| 23:00 | < Shoukanjuu> | haha |
| 23:00 | <@AnnoDomini> | By anything, I mean anything useful. |
| 23:01 | <@AnnoDomini> | Shoukanjuu: Curiously enough, xXAbuDhabiXx was not taken. o_o |
| 23:01 | < Shoukanjuu> | .......What XD |
| 23:01 | < Shoukanjuu> | Also, no, they aren't. |
| 23:01 | < Shoukanjuu> | Well |
| 23:02 | < Shoukanjuu> | they might be |
| 23:02 | < Shoukanjuu> | But if you use them everyone will laugh at you. |
| 23:05 | <@gnolam> | AIM bots? Why not wallhack while you're at it? ;) |
| 23:07 | <@AnnoDomini> | "You are about to remove the group AIM Bots and all its members from your buddy list. Do you want to continue?" |
| 23:07 | <@AnnoDomini> | FUCK YES. |
| 23:08 | < Shoukanjuu> | Aimbots really are amazing things >.> |
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| 23:10 | <@AnnoDomini> | gnolam: What's a 'wallhack'? |
| 23:10 | < Vornicus> | wallhacking and aimbots are two major categories of FPS cheat programs |
| 23:11 | < Shoukanjuu> | Walking or shooting through walls |
| 23:11 | <@AnnoDomini> | I don't play FPSes newer than Quake I. <_< |
| 23:11 | <@gnolam> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallhacking |
| 23:11 | < Vornicus> | aimbots point your gun in exactly the right direction to catch your target, and can often improve the aim of weapons beyond the inaccuracy built in |
| 23:11 | < Vornicus> | wallhacking involves seeing, shooting, or occasionally walking through walls. |
| 23:11 | < Shoukanjuu> | Ah. |
| 23:12 | <@AnnoDomini> | gnolam: Oh, I see. A clever pune, or play of words. |
| 23:12 | <@gnolam> | Yes. |
| 23:12 | < Shoukanjuu> | Call of duty made it so that you cant' tell if anyone's wallhacking |
| 23:12 | < Shoukanjuu> | CoD4, that is |
| 23:12 | <@gnolam> | Hmm? How? |
| 23:12 | < Shoukanjuu> | Because not only can you get lucky kills from firing through walls |
| 23:13 | < Shoukanjuu> | Because this can do it << |
| 23:13 | < Shoukanjuu> | It's encouraged by the game itself |
| 23:13 | <@gnolam> | Just like in Counter-Strike then. Where wallhacking and aimbotting first became rampant. |
| 23:13 | < Shoukanjuu> | Splash damage goes through walls to acertain extent, too |
| 23:13 | < Shoukanjuu> | Yeah. |
| 23:13 | < Shoukanjuu> | Bullets go through walls |
| 23:13 | < Shoukanjuu> | Depending on their thickness or material |
| 23:14 | < Shoukanjuu> | And there's a skill that increases the penetration |
| 23:14 | < Shoukanjuu> | I use it when I'm sniping...but I haven't played for a while |
| 23:14 | <@gnolam> | I was actually quite good at C-S back in the day. I quit because I couldn't stand the players any longer. :P |
| 23:14 | < Shoukanjuu> | I'd get upwards of 20 kills a game ._. |
| 23:15 | <@gnolam> | Use what... wallhacks? |
| 23:15 | < Shoukanjuu> | No, the skill that increases bullet penetration |
| 23:15 | < Shoukanjuu> | you can literally shoot through people to kill someone else |
| 23:16 | < Shoukanjuu> | I got 5 kills with a single round once |
| 23:16 | < Shoukanjuu> | The entire team quit after that XD |
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| 23:22 | <@AnnoDomini> | But enough talk. Sleep. |
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