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| 01:00 | < stirling-20> | Sup |
| 01:02 | | * Vornicus is writing a red-black tree, for giggles. |
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| 01:10 | <@Shoukanjuu> | I don't quite understand why people dislike Too Human. |
| 01:12 | <@Shoukanjuu> | It's like they're...idunno, complaining to hear themselves complain? |
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| 02:01 | <@ToxicFrog> | Shoukanjuu: part of this is that the version originally demoed at E3 was a crime against god and man. |
| 02:01 | <@Shoukanjuu> | XD; |
| 02:01 | <@ToxicFrog> | And was partly responsible for litigation between Silicon Knights and Epic Megagames |
| 02:09 | <@Vornicus> | Wait, wasn't Too Human the one that yoinked whole buildings from other games? |
| 02:11 | <@ToxicFrog> | ? |
| 02:12 | <@Vornicus> | There was some game that was, uh. |
| 02:12 | <@Vornicus> | Many locations were stolen from such places as Oblivion. |
| 02:12 | <@ToxicFrog> | Don't recall hearing about that |
| 02:13 | <@ToxicFrog> | Googling "too human plagiarism" gets me nothing |
| 02:13 | <@ToxicFrog> | So do let me know if you find out what game it is |
| 02:13 | <@Vornicus> | hang on, looking it up. |
| 02:13 | <@Vornicus> | "Limbo Of The Lost", apparently |
| 02:14 | <@Vornicus> | http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/06/18/limbo_lost_saga/ |
| 02:14 | <@ToxicFrog> | Aah yes |
| 02:17 | | * Vornicus /eyes/ these liftings. |
| 02:18 | <@ToxicFrog> | ...pfft, they even lifted the inventory screen border from Diablo 2? |
| 02:18 | <@Vornicus> | Yeah. |
| 02:20 | <@Vornicus> | So what was it about Too Human that caused litigation? |
| 02:22 | <@ToxicFrog> | Knights (and I think one other developer, forget who) sued Epic over the U3 engine, alleging that Epic was failing to uphold its contractual obligations by holding back documentation, tools, and updates to the engine so that they could keep the good stuff for Gears of War. |
| 02:23 | <@Vornicus> | aha. |
| 02:25 | <@ToxicFrog> | knights went on to ditch U3 entirely, upon which Epic has countersued them, claiming that they have done no such thing are in fact continuing to use U3 behind the scenes without paying for it. |
| 02:26 | <@Vornicus> | oh, fun |
| 02:26 | <@ToxicFrog> | Yeah. |
| 02:27 | <@ToxicFrog> | Ah, no |
| 02:28 | <@ToxicFrog> | They claim that Knights is using reverse-engineered U3 tech in their engine, not that it's actually U3 |
| 02:28 | <@ToxicFrog> | Someone's a massive prick here, but it's hard to tell who, and I can't even make a random emotional call because I like them both :( |
| 02:30 | <@Shoukanjuu> | I know, right? I hate when that happens. |
| 02:30 | <@ToxicFrog> | Epic brought us Jazz Jackrabbit, One Must Fall, and the Unreal series; Knights brought us Blood Omen and Eternal fucking Darkness. |
| 02:30 | <@Shoukanjuu> | However, after the destruction of ASSAULT MODE IN UNREAL TOURNAMENT THREE |
| 02:30 | <@Shoukanjuu> | Assault was the only reason I played anymore |
| 02:30 | <@ToxicFrog> | EMG has gone sliiiightly EAtastic with their approach to the UT series |
| 02:30 | <@ToxicFrog> | But then, I've only ever played the first one |
| 02:30 | < Doctor_Nick> | FUCK UT |
| 02:31 | < Doctor_Nick> | FUCK EPIC |
| 02:31 | < Doctor_Nick> | >:( |
| 02:31 | | * Shoukanjuu mourns the loss of his assault mode. |
| 02:31 | < Doctor_Nick> | over 8 months without a linux client for ut |
| 02:33 | <@Shoukanjuu> | OS X ;_; |
| 02:33 | <@ToxicFrog> | I've never been hugely invested in the UT series, because Tribes 2. |
| 02:33 | <@ToxicFrog> | Or, these days, TF2 and Natural Selection. |
| 02:33 | <@Shoukanjuu> | I was going to actually build a box for it, but then I heard that the gameplay was kinda clunky |
| 02:33 | <@Shoukanjuu> | Then I heard that assault gametype was gone |
| 02:34 | <@Shoukanjuu> | And so I raged for 15 days and 16 nights. |
| 02:35 | <@ToxicFrog> | But I did rather enjoy U1, the expansion, and UT. |
| 02:36 | < Doctor_Nick> | tf2 |
| 02:41 | <@Shoukanjuu> | Hee, Commando :3 |
| 02:42 | <@Shoukanjuu> | Clearly, it is my calling. I've never been one of a close fighter... |
| 02:42 | <@Shoukanjuu> | The melee see,s clunky in too human, so I'll sit out there and gungungungun |
| 02:47 | | * Vornicus is all about sniping. |
| 02:48 | <@Shoukanjuu> | SNIPERS ARE NEVER CREDIT TO THE TEAM |
| 02:49 | | * ToxicFrog pops Shoukanjuu's head from the other side of the map, creating the opening necessary for his team's spies to sneak in and totally ruin the defences |
| 02:49 | <@ToxicFrog> | You were saying? |
| 02:50 | <@Shoukanjuu> | Shoukanjuu: SNIPERS ARE NEVER CREDIT TO THE TEAM |
| 02:51 | <@Shoukanjuu> | As I was saying :P |
| 02:51 | <@Shoukanjuu> | I've never seen a good sniper |
| 02:51 | <@Vornicus> | If I can kill it in one shot before it notices me, I'll do it. |
| 02:51 | <@Shoukanjuu> | I even stood still |
| 02:51 | <@Shoukanjuu> | And watched as the sniper shot what seemed to just be in my general direction |
| 02:52 | <@Shoukanjuu> | So they waste their time and a slow on that team |
| 02:52 | <@Shoukanjuu> | When they could be a demoman and need to be nerfed :/ |
| 02:55 | <@Vornicus> | even if it takes me getting to a spectacularly inconvenient spot first. |
| 02:55 | <@Shoukanjuu> | Well, in every game that there is a sniper, I usually go sniper, because I don't like being shot at. |
| 02:56 | <@ToxicFrog> | A competent sniper is a great credit to their team. |
| 02:56 | <@Shoukanjuu> | That's what I'm trying to say, TF. |
| 02:56 | <@ToxicFrog> | They just aren't a flashy one like a heavy, a medic, a pyro, or a demo. |
| 02:56 | <@Shoukanjuu> | Most people have never SEEN a competent sniper. |
| 02:56 | <@ToxicFrog> | So they get people like you ragging on them. |
| 02:56 | <@Shoukanjuu> | And THAT is why I'm ragging on them |
| 02:57 | <@Shoukanjuu> | Good snipers are a credit to the team. Sure. |
| 02:57 | <@Shoukanjuu> | Bad snipers just a ren['t. Ever. At all. |
| 02:57 | <@Shoukanjuu> | Brilliant snipers snipe from the opponent's side :3 |
| 03:00 | <@Shoukanjuu> | It might just be my luck, having only bad snipers on my team, or bad snipers on the other team |
| 03:00 | <@Shoukanjuu> | I KNOW there are good ones somewhere :/ |
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| 04:46 | <@Vornicus> | Hm. How would I implement roll given the C operators? |
| 04:51 | < Doctor_Nick> | funroll loops |
| 04:52 | <@Vornicus> | oh, I see now. rol goes (a << b) | (a << (32 - b)) |
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| 11:29 | <@gnolam> | ACRONYM OVERLOAD |
| 11:30 | <@TheWatcher> | OMGWTFBBQ? |
| 11:30 | < Shoukanjuu> | 4chan doesn't like me because my way of speech is too 'stilted.' |
| 11:34 | <@gnolam> | SMART |
| 11:34 | <@gnolam> | RUP |
| 11:34 | <@gnolam> | PROPS |
| 11:34 | <@gnolam> | COCOMO |
| 11:34 | <@gnolam> | Gah! |
| 11:34 | < Shoukanjuu> | I'm pretty sure that typing at a second grade level is 'stilted' to 4chan, but...saying that I sounded like G-man? |
| 11:35 | < Shoukanjuu> | Acronyms are fun. XD |
| 11:35 | < Shoukanjuu> | Too Human has these monsters that are ALL BUT IMMUNE to ranged attacks. |
| 11:40 | < Shoukanjuu> | Maybe it's because I'm using Slugs instead of lasers or something |
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| 11:45 | <@gnolam> | ... you actually care about what people on 4chan say about you? |
| 11:45 | | * gnolam tsks. |
| 11:47 | < Shoukanjuu> | No, I don't, not really. I just thought it was amusing. |
| 11:47 | < Shoukanjuu> | Ugh. I need a melee character. |
| 11:51 | < Shoukanjuu> | A healer would be fine, too. Hmmm. |
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| 16:55 | | * gnolam ponders hammering blunt nails into his forehead. |
| 16:56 | <@AnnoDomini> | Why not sharp nails? |
| 16:58 | <@gnolam> | Because they're dull, you twit! They'll hurt more! |
| 16:58 | <@gnolam> | </Rickman> |
| 16:59 | <@gnolam> | And because it would be preferable to watching a severe dyslexic attempting to code in C. |
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| 17:24 | <@McMartin> | Hooray for one-letter variable names, I guses |
| 17:53 | <@gnolam> | Apparently, you /can/ misspell one-letter names as well. :P |
| 17:56 | <@AnnoDomini> | What. |
| 18:00 | <@gnolam> | Yes. |
| 18:00 | | * gnolam begins sorting his guns by barrel flavor. |
| 18:01 | <@Vornicus> | Don't you get just one bin? "gunpowder"? |
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| 18:50 | <@ToxicFrog> | Vornicus: that's what the flavoured lip gloss is for |
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| 23:57 | <@McMartin> | VirtualBox note: Despite Ubuntu insisting that you can only do 800x600, if you hack Xorg.conf to say "I can totally do res X" you can totally do res X. |
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