| --- Log opened Wed Aug 27 00:00:24 2008 |
| 00:02 | <@McMartin> | Also, it occurs to me that "eating your own dogfood" is funnier when it's Puppy Linux. |
| 00:03 | < Doctor_Nick> | ? |
| 00:03 | < Doctor_Nick> | just use qemu + kvm for ubuntu |
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| 00:04 | <@MyCatVerbs> | McMartin: please please please please add in "# gag me with a spoon" just above that modeline. |
| 00:06 | < Doctor_Nick> | remember the 80s |
| 00:06 | < Doctor_Nick> | good times |
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| 01:00 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Doctor_Nick: can't. I was still merrily farting in public on 1st Jan 1990. |
| 01:00 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Not so much has changed since then, though I do at least conceal my glee. |
| 01:00 | < Shoukanjuu> | You people are OLD. XD |
| 01:23 | <@McMartin> | I was hacking teh VGAz0rz in 1990. |
| 01:23 | <@McMartin> | Also, I was speaking figuratively |
| 01:23 | <@McMartin> | The actual line is more like "DisplayModes 1280x960 1024x768 800x600" |
| 01:28 | <@ToxicFrog> | Doctor_Nick: qemu is really, really slow. |
| 01:28 | <@ToxicFrog> | Virtualbox is close enough to native that it's hard to tell the difference, especially with guest additions installed. |
| 01:30 | <@McMartin> | Not to mention that VirtualBox is Qemu but it doesn't bother emulating stuff it doesn't need to. |
| 01:30 | <@McMartin> | Which is, like, Everything in 32-bit Protected Mode in Ring 3. |
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| 03:07 | < Doctor_Nick> | ToxicFrog: qemu + kvm is almost native |
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| 05:16 | | * Vornicus defeats - and shockingly easily - Red-Black insertion. |
| 05:33 | <@Reiver> | It's clever. |
| 05:33 | | * Reiver mostly struggled to create the tree to start with. |
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| 05:51 | <@Vornicus> | /* here's a neat trick. If we got here, one of two things is true: |
| 05:51 | <@Vornicus> | * 1. the original parent handedness and node handedness are the same, or |
| 05:51 | <@Vornicus> | * 2. the we just rotated it so the original parent is 'outside', which looks |
| 05:51 | <@Vornicus> | * for all the world like case 1, except with the original node labels |
| 05:51 | <@Vornicus> | * swapped... except we also changed the node label ourselves, so it |
| 05:51 | <@Vornicus> | * looks exactly like case 1 in all respects. So, no else! |
| 05:51 | <@Vornicus> | */ |
| 05:55 | <@Vornicus> | /really/ cool. |
| 05:55 | < Shoukanjuu> | Too Human :3 |
| 05:57 | <@Vornicus> | Also, Reiver, have you figured out "higher" in that wheel game from earlier? |
| 05:58 | <@Reiver> | Vorn: Yeah, I did all of them |
| 05:58 | <@Reiver> | Which was higher? |
| 05:59 | <@Reiver> | ...oh, dude |
| 05:59 | <@Reiver> | That one is not hard. |
| 05:59 | <@Reiver> | You either want a Very Tall Rover, or stop with the rovers and make a machine instead. |
| 05:59 | <@Reiver> | (Hint: Levers are easy to make.) |
| 06:01 | | * Reiver can solve it with five lines and a motor. |
| 06:01 | | * Vornicus can't get any levers to work. |
| 06:02 | <@Reiver> | Ha, three lines and a motor |
| 06:02 | <@Reiver> | ... You can't? |
| 06:03 | <@Vornicus> | Nope. The thing falls down instead of getting pushed, and the motor can't turn hard enough. |
| 06:03 | <@Reiver> | Ah, that suggests two solutions: |
| 06:03 | <@Reiver> | 1: Make the lever smaller |
| 06:03 | <@Reiver> | 2: chaingang the motors. (This latter can turn out hilarious later on) |
| 06:04 | <@Reiver> | Motors have a finite but measured strength. |
| 06:04 | <@Reiver> | You can link 'em like train wheels to enhance this. |
| 06:05 | <@Vornicus> | I've never managed to get multiple motors to work together. |
| 06:05 | <@Reiver> | Make sure they're on a rigid frame. |
| 06:05 | <@Reiver> | Then link all four points together to ensure it doesn't stretch out of shape. |
| 06:07 | <@Reiver> | http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=928508 |
| 06:07 | <@Vornicus> | ah, there it goes |
| 06:08 | <@Reiver> | This one is win, though: http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=928267 |
| 06:12 | | * Vornicus manages to figure out Around The Bend, which is silly clever. Wheelie on a clockwise and then as you fall off the counterclockwise ends up pointing down. |
| 06:14 | <@Reiver> | Yup! |
| 06:15 | <@Reiver> | I've seen even more amusing solutions than -that-, too |
| 06:15 | <@Vornicus> | the one that is win is win. |
| 06:16 | < Shoukanjuu> | heheh |
| 06:21 | < Shoukanjuu> | Hurk! GARM'd |
| 06:24 | < Shoukanjuu> | Tyr blew up :( |
| 06:29 | | * Reiver has solved Around The Bend with one brown stick. ;) |
| 06:30 | <@Reiver> | And Awash with three motors. |
| 06:30 | < Shoukanjuu> | I really like this game. |
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| 06:59 | | * Reiver laughs. Solved Mind The Gap with two sticks and no motors >_> |
| 07:00 | <@Reiver> | This game is fun - so much stuff is "Feh, boring easy"... but that's like saying Lego is too simple. |
| 07:00 | | * Vornicus can't figure out how to do Over The Hump. No amount of additional power will make a flexible thing go over the hump, and trying to get a rigid thing over is just asking for a rollover. |
| 07:01 | <@Vornicus> | ...wait |
| 07:01 | | * Vornicus tries to figure out if he can do treads. |
| 07:02 | <@Reiver> | Two kinds, even~ |
| 07:03 | <@Reiver> | My favourite is generally a choo-choo train style. |
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| 07:04 | <@Reiver> | AKA: Secure the motors stiffly, then link, say, all the bottom points together with a water. |
| 07:04 | <@Reiver> | And then all their top points ditto. |
| 07:04 | <@Reiver> | Vola, treads. |
| 07:04 | <@Reiver> | (Also bonus points for being how you pressgang motors together.) |
| 07:05 | | * Reiver , just to be a bastard, solves it with three peices. |
| 07:06 | < Shoukanjuu> | XD |
| 07:06 | < Shoukanjuu> | Reiver is truly a master of simple machines. |
| 07:07 | <@Reiver> | I'm treating this as Hard Mode. |
| 07:07 | <@Reiver> | All my initial designs were basically Tanks. |
| 07:07 | < Shoukanjuu> | hehe |
| 07:07 | <@Reiver> | Which were fun in a way, but this relies on ingenuity and, uh, Outright Cheating on occasion. >_> |
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| 07:08 | < Shoukanjuu> | There is no cheating in ingenuity. |
| 07:08 | < Shoukanjuu> | It'sw ingenuity if you figure out a way to do something better, more efficient. |
| 07:08 | | * Reiver grins. |
| 07:08 | < Shoukanjuu> | If it's "cheating," then I'd rather be a cheater |
| 07:09 | < Shoukanjuu> | That's like the british complaining at the revolutionaries because they weren't standing in a line and firing >_> |
| 07:11 | < Shoukanjuu> | That sort of mindset is exactly what hinders society. Science>morals! |
| 07:12 | | * Vornicus figures /something/ out. |
| 07:12 | | * Vornicus makes a ramp. |
| 07:12 | | * Vornicus ...can't climb that, either. |
| 07:15 | <@Vornicus> | longer ramp would help, but I don't have the room for it. |
| 07:17 | < Shoukanjuu> | Pure Plasma Pistols of Plasma. |
| 07:20 | | * Vornicus figures it out! |
| 07:20 | <@Vornicus> | ...it helps to know that you can attach wheels directly to the block... |
| 07:22 | <@Vornicus> | arg! |
| 07:22 | | * Vornicus forgot to copy the link! |
| 07:22 | <@Vornicus> | ah, there it is. |
| 07:22 | <@Vornicus> | http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=933140 |
| 07:23 | < Shoukanjuu> | Agh |
| 07:23 | < Shoukanjuu> | That music is terrible! x_X |
| 07:23 | <@Vornicus> | Yes it is ;_; |
| 07:24 | < Shoukanjuu> | It's only a matter of time before people destroy the Norse Mythology stuff on wikipedia. |
| 07:24 | < Shoukanjuu> | Will Too Human being...well, what it is |
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| 07:28 | <@Vornicus> | http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=933271 <--- additional silliness! |
| 07:31 | <@Vornicus> | ...freaking balls. Not fair knocking my contraption over! |
| 07:46 | | * Reiver mumbles, cannots see Vorns links! |
| 07:46 | <@Reiver> | (It's taking me to the main page instead ;_;) |
| 07:47 | <@Reiver> | Vorn: Is that Awash that you're working on? |
| 07:49 | <@Vornicus> | No, Up The Stairs |
| 07:49 | <@Vornicus> | I've made a tread system now, and a way to get around the bigger balls. I don't know if the treads are actually working... |
| 07:51 | <@Reiver> | Oh, that one |
| 07:51 | <@Reiver> | I don't think you can do that one quickly without a catapault. Really, the best solution is just a tank. >_> |
| 07:51 | <@Reiver> | (And patience, as it runs all the crud from beneath the wheels.) |
| 07:51 | | * Vornicus has a tank! |
| 07:52 | <@Vornicus> | With treads, even! |
| 07:52 | <@Reiver> | Lemme guess - actual brown tracks? :p |
| 07:55 | <@Vornicus> | Yes. |
| 07:58 | < Shoukanjuu> | What constitutes a "Leader" :( |
| 08:00 | | * Vornicus manages to /launch/ the thing in the /opposite/ direction from the one that the wheels are turning. |
| 08:00 | < Shoukanjuu> | Great job. |
| 08:01 | < Shoukanjuu> | Now do the exact same thing, mirrored. |
| 08:01 | <@Vornicus> | Can't |
| 08:01 | <@Vornicus> | Nothing in the way in that direction - I need to get the entire contraption spinning backwards. |
| 08:06 | <@Vornicus> | All right, I've had enough. |
| 08:06 | | * Vornicus gives up. |
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| 20:33 | <@McMartin> | http://alban.dotsec.net/7.html |
| 20:54 | <@Vornicus> | wootron |
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| 21:16 | | * Vornicus refactorrefactorrefactors. |
| 21:18 | | * jerith hands Vorn the keys to the refactor tractor. |
| 21:19 | < jerith> | BRRRRRRRMM! |
| 21:21 | | * TheWatcher writes a perl script to compensate for a coder being a complete twazzock |
| 21:22 | < jerith> | "Twazzock"... is that a technical term? |
| 21:22 | <@TheWatcher> | Eyup. If you're from Oop Norf, anyway. |
| 21:23 | < jerith> | "If he's an alien, why does he have a Northern accent?" "Lots of planets have a North..." |
| 21:26 | <@Vornicus> | http://FantasticContraption.com/?designId=957253 |
| 21:27 | | * jerith heads to bed. |
| 21:27 | <@TheWatcher> | (specifically the author of wikEd, a javascript 'semi-WYSIWYG' textarea for mediawiki, who espects you to link to the .js and supporting images on the wikipedia site rather than making a simple package you can download and install "in order to get the frequent updates and bug fixes and to save disk space") |
| 21:28 | <@TheWatcher> | (which is, frankly utter bollocks) |
| 21:28 | < jerith> | Complete and utter bollocks. |
| 21:29 | <@TheWatcher> | Hence my script - it compares the local version to the remote, pulls down any missing images, modifies the javascript to look at the local images, and saves the javascript locally |
| 21:29 | < jerith> | Neat. |
| 21:33 | <@TheWatcher> | http://fleet.starforge.co.uk/grab_wikEd.txt in fact |
| 21:35 | <@Myst> | nini, jerith! |
| 21:37 | | * TheWatcher hms, notes something missing from that.. |
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| 23:50 | | Vornicus changed the topic of #code to: It's like Swiss bank accounts, but for coders! | Have a pastebin! http://rafb.net/paste | Channel mode +U, ask for voice to post links. | Monologues permitted. | Home of the Refactor Tractor! |
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