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| 10:48 | < Shoukanjuu> | Also, I need to register my nick if I'm going to be here so I can be included in the op list... |
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| 10:51 | <@Shoukanjuu> | Nick is reg'd. \o/ |
| 10:51 | <@Shoukanjuu> | Thanks, AD. |
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| 14:12 | | * gnolam blarghs. |
| 14:14 | <@gnolam> | I'm wondering if it's possible to die from a buzzword overdose. I'm in the danger zone. |
| 14:16 | <@AnnoDomini> | THE TWILIGHT ZONE! |
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| 15:26 | <@gnolam> | ... and of course, OpenOffice doesn't recognize actual locale settings. Great. |
| 15:28 | <@AnnoDomini> | To give the Devil his due, the PDF making option in OO is actually pretty nice. |
| 15:28 | <@AnnoDomini> | My PDF looks pretty. |
| 15:31 | <@gnolam> | Yes. The /functionality/ in OpenOffice is usually quite good. The problem is that it's protected by a usability-proofed UI. :P |
| 15:32 | <@AnnoDomini> | Indeed. |
| 15:32 | <@gnolam> | It's like they purposely _tried_ to make certain tasks impossible or too onerous to even consider. |
| 15:34 | <@gnolam> | It's nowhere near as bad as, say, LabView *shudder*, but OpenOffice tries to be a usable-by-everyone MS Office replacement. That's what makes it inexcusable. |
| 15:39 | <@gnolam> | ... aaand there's apparently absolutely no way of changing this behavior. Well, fuck you, OpenOffice. |
| 15:44 | <@ToxicFrog> | What do you mean "doesn't recognize actual locale settings"? |
| 15:44 | <@gnolam> | I mean it doesn't recognize actual locale settings. :P |
| 15:44 | <@gnolam> | It takes a brief glance at what country you're supposed to be in, and then gleefully ignores everything else. |
| 15:45 | <@gnolam> | And applies its own rules. |
| 15:46 | <@gnolam> | Not entirely uncommon (Nvidia, I'm looking at YOU!), but completely inexcusable in an office/spreadsheet context. |
| 15:53 | <@ToxicFrog> | Aah. So it ignores the system locale settings, and instead guesses what it should do based on geographical location. |
| 15:53 | <@ToxicFrog> | It should have an option to override that, though, even if there's no option to Do It Right. |
| 15:54 | <@gnolam> | Have you /looked/ at what passes for localization options in OpenOffice? |
| 15:55 | <@gnolam> | They've even fucked up the simple task of "set the language of a document", for chrissakes. |
| 16:38 | <@McMartin> | 07:33 <@AnnoDomini> To give the Devil his due, the PDF making option in OO is actually pretty nice. |
| 16:38 | <@McMartin> | I have to admit, OS X spoiled me completely in this regard. |
| 16:39 | <@McMartin> | Anything you can print you can export to PDF regardless of programmatic support for this. |
| 16:40 | <@McMartin> | So now I get enraged whenever "Export to PDF" isn't a print driver on anything else I use~ |
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| 21:08 | <@McMartin> | Huh, Neil Gaiman is trying to recruit I7 programmers |
| 21:09 | <@McMartin> | http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2008/08/lately-when-my-fingers-move-mr-gs-words.ht ml |
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| 21:48 | <@gnolam> | Yay. Rasputin. |
| 21:48 | <@gnolam> | And now, dicey C pointer arithmetic. |
| 21:52 | <@TheWatcher> | Wheee |
| 21:54 | | * Myst chuckles at McMartin |
| 21:54 | <@Myst> | yes, I've never understood why saving as a pdf isn't universal on all OSes. Ah, well. |
| 22:17 | <@gnolam> | And of course there's no shortcut to insert the current date in OpenOffice. |
| 22:17 | | * gnolam puts the OO.o (renaming your project after your URL is goddammned silly, BTW) developers on his list of "people against the wall when the revolution comes". |
| 22:25 | <@ToxicFrog> | gnolam: the ".org" at least they have a valid reason for. |
| 22:25 | <@ToxicFrog> | Trademark dispute. |
| 22:25 | <@ToxicFrog> | "OpenOffice" turned out to already be taken. |
| 22:28 | <@gnolam> | I don't think I will ever stop laughing after they lose control over their domain. |
| 22:28 | <@gnolam> | (You know it's just a matter of time ;-)) |
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