| --- Log opened Sun Aug 24 00:00:55 2008 |
| 00:09 | <@ToxicFrog> | Man. |
| 00:09 | < Shoukanjuu> | >_> |
| 00:09 | <@ToxicFrog> | It's totally the sweet the way misusing a socket in LuaSocket causes it to dump the contents of program memory to the terminal, then segfault. |
| 00:10 | < Shoukanjuu> | I have flown countless missions and destroyed thousands of aircraft, boats, facilities...Heavy command cruisers and superweapons |
| 00:10 | < Shoukanjuu> | To get shot down by a B-52. |
| 00:11 | <@ToxicFrog> | I would mock you, but I'm too busy getting rxvt to stop freaking out. |
| 00:23 | <@Consul> | Man, those B-52s could really mess you up, couldn't they? |
| 00:23 | <@Consul> | Were you shot by a turret gunner, or did the B-52 actually outmanoever you and come up from behind? |
| 00:25 | < Shoukanjuu> | Nah, I dropped altitude and missed one of my missiles, maneuvered right into a stream of turret fire |
| 00:25 | < Shoukanjuu> | In Ace of Aces, each shot does 24% |
| 00:26 | <@Consul> | Okay, I guess I'm the only one who giggled at the idea of being outmanoevered by a B-52. |
| 00:26 | < Shoukanjuu> | Oh, don't worry. |
| 00:26 | < Shoukanjuu> | The AI doesn't know that B-52s aren't supposed to out maneuver fighter jets. |
| 00:26 | < Shoukanjuu> | That is to say |
| 00:26 | <@Consul> | I'm also reminded of the story about European Air War on thedailywrf.com |
| 00:26 | < Shoukanjuu> | It will anyway |
| 00:27 | <@Consul> | err, thedailywtf, I meant |
| 00:27 | <@Consul> | http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The-Cool-Cam.aspx |
| 00:28 | < Shoukanjuu> | "velocity torque rotary girder viscosity..." |
| 00:28 | < Shoukanjuu> | I l ol'd. |
| 00:29 | < Shoukanjuu> | Well, In all the o ther difficulties, B-52s didn't have turret fire. |
| 00:29 | < Shoukanjuu> | They had bombs, and they flew normally. You know, like a the cement truck with wings they are |
| 00:29 | < Shoukanjuu> | But in Ace of Aces, everything CHANGES |
| 00:30 | < Shoukanjuu> | Scarily so. |
| 00:30 | < Shoukanjuu> | I saw a Rafale M flying backwards. |
| 00:30 | < Shoukanjuu> | You can't make this stuff up |
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| 00:42 | | * ToxicFrog returns from the kitchen with a grilled liver & pickled onion sandwich, and an epiphany as to the workings of his software |
| 00:43 | <@ToxicFrog> | It becomes so much simpler once I realize I need an event queue! |
| 00:43 | <@ToxicFrog> | :step() handles exactly one event; if there's no event, it blocks until one is available. |
| 00:43 | < Shoukanjuu> | The missile hit boxes are so broken. You would think that they are exploding next to you and killing you in the process. |
| 00:44 | <@ToxicFrog> | This means that :next() returns exactly one event - if it can't get one from the server, the network layer pushes an error event and that's what gets returned. |
| 00:44 | <@ToxicFrog> | Shoukanjuu: sounds about right to me. |
| 00:44 | < Shoukanjuu> | ...... |
| 00:45 | <@ToxicFrog> | Missiles are generally designed to have a better kill radius than skin-to-skin. |
| 00:45 | < Shoukanjuu> | The missile hit boxes are too realistic. You would think they'd have to actually hit you to do damage. |
| 00:45 | < Shoukanjuu> | I just want to complain, is all XD |
| 00:45 | < Shoukanjuu> | But that makes sense. |
| 00:45 | <@ToxicFrog> | This is #code! Don't complain - get out your disassembler and fix it! ?? |
| 00:46 | < Shoukanjuu> | No 360 disassembler ?? |
| 00:47 | <@ToxicFrog> | I thought the 360 just used a multicore PPC? |
| 00:48 | < Shoukanjuu> | I don't quite think people have gotten around to doing that. |
| 00:48 | <@ToxicFrog> | My point is, if it's using a PPC, there are already disassemblers for it. |
| 00:48 | < Shoukanjuu> | Mmm. |
| 00:48 | <@ToxicFrog> | Offer void if this is not actually what they're using, etc |
| 00:49 | <@McMartin> | Much code is actually written in a .NET variant that the core CPU then JITs or interprets directly. |
| 00:50 | <@ToxicFrog> | That's even better! |
| 00:50 | < Shoukanjuu> | o.o; |
| 00:50 | <@ToxicFrog> | I think. |
| 00:50 | <@ToxicFrog> | What are reverse engineering tools for CIL like? |
| 00:51 | < Shoukanjuu> | I've got this thing about doing thinks I barely understand. |
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| 01:20 | <@ToxicFrog> | What the hell, next() isn't allowed to return nil! |
| 01:23 | <@ToxicFrog> | Oh wait |
| 01:23 | <@ToxicFrog> | Yeah, it totally can, because I mistyped a variable name |
| 01:23 | <@ToxicFrog> | I should probably be using strict >.> |
| 01:26 | <@ToxicFrog> | mother-FUCKER! |
| 01:30 | < Shoukanjuu> | The Strigon Team was wiped out?! This can't be true! |
| 01:34 | <@ToxicFrog> | Oh wait |
| 01:34 | | * ToxicFrog rummages through his code |
| 01:34 | <@ToxicFrog> | Man, it would be totally sweet if it actually stopped trying to read from the socket after a disconnect. |
| 01:36 | <@ToxicFrog> | Attempt to recv() even after the server has been disconnected and not reconnected yet: environmental error (emit an error event) or programmer error (assert)? |
| 01:36 | <@McMartin> | Servers can disconnect at any time, I'd say environment. |
| 01:36 | <@McMartin> | You never know when a meteor will hit the remote host. |
| 01:37 | <@ToxicFrog> | Yes, but that's already classed as environmental and emits a "connection closed" event. |
| 01:37 | <@ToxicFrog> | The question is how to class an attempt to do IO after recieving that event. |
| 01:37 | <@ToxicFrog> | I am leaning towards programmer. |
| 01:37 | <@McMartin> | Oh, after the closure is processed? |
| 01:37 | <@McMartin> | Yeah. |
| 01:40 | | * ToxicFrog nods |
| 01:40 | <@ToxicFrog> | You're guaranteed to get the disconnect event before it attempts to do any further IO, so to reach this point you have to either drop it, or try to reconnect and then fail to check whether the next event is "connection open" or "connection failed" |
| 01:42 | <@ToxicFrog> | In which case you deserve to have it barf a stack trace all over your terminal. |
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| 02:30 | <@ToxicFrog> | Hmm |
| 02:30 | <@ToxicFrog> | My callback registerizer has mysteriously stopped working. |
| 02:30 | <@ToxicFrog> | I am unamused. |
| 04:16 | < Shoukanjuu> | "I live in Georgia, but I don't see Russia nowhere, but they say there's tanks. Should I be worried?" -- Concered Blogger, Georgia, US |
| 04:16 | < Shoukanjuu> | I lol'd. |
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| 13:59 | <@AnnoDomini> | Anybody know how to make a new page in the same document in Inkscape? |
| 13:59 | <@AnnoDomini> | Is it even possible? |
| 14:05 | <@gnolam> | Not possible. |
| 14:06 | <@gnolam> | SVG has no concept of pages. |
| 14:06 | <@AnnoDomini> | Boo. |
| 14:06 | < Shoukanjuu> | Incoherence! The GEP gun told me. |
| 14:07 | | * AnnoDomini goes find a different PDF IDE. |
| 14:07 | | * gnolam hands Shoukanjuu his dried frog pills. |
| 14:07 | <@gnolam> | AnnoDomini: what are you trying to do? |
| 14:08 | <@AnnoDomini> | A book. |
| 14:08 | <@AnnoDomini> | No, I don't want to use TeX. |
| 14:08 | < Shoukanjuu> | It's 9am here. I'm going to bed. Uuugh. x_X; Goodluck, AD. |
| 14:14 | <@gnolam> | Then Inkscape is absolutely the wrong choice. |
| 14:14 | <@AnnoDomini> | I know that now. |
| 14:14 | <@gnolam> | Scribus? |
| 14:15 | <@gnolam> | AnnoDomini: http://www.scribus.net/ |
| 14:17 | <@AnnoDomini> | I'll try this. |
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| 14:33 | <@AnnoDomini> | Awesome, gnolam. |
| 14:33 | <@AnnoDomini> | Now I can finally work on the revision of my custom splatbook for SR3. |
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| 14:37 | <@AnnoDomini> | This thing has a leetle silly way of handling fontstyles, but eh. |
| 14:37 | <@TheWatcher> | "custom splatbook" wut |
| 14:39 | <@AnnoDomini> | It's like those splatbooks with rules for non-Seattle games, only this is not only non-Seattle, but also non-Earth and non-Sci-Fi. |
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| 15:08 | <@AnnoDomini> | Damn it. How do I force a linebreak without making a newline? |
| 15:08 | <@AnnoDomini> | The lone 'I' at the end of the line does not look pretty. |
| 15:12 | | * AnnoDomini uses a provisory solution of adding spaces until it wraps. |
| 15:21 | <@TheWatcher> | The I is probably a typographical mark which won't appear in the generated doc. Or at least, so I'd assume |
| 15:21 | <@AnnoDomini> | I know OO and Word can do these things, but Scribus seems to lack that. |
| 15:29 | <@AnnoDomini> | gnolam: How do I do lists? |
| 15:29 | <@AnnoDomini> | Bulletted, especially. |
| 15:29 | <@gnolam> | Don't know. Haven't used it that much. |
| 15:30 | <@AnnoDomini> | I guess it's time for Manually Created Bullets, since the manual does not speak of them. |
| 15:30 | | * TheWatcher just suggest LaTeX ¬¬ |
| 15:31 | <@AnnoDomini> | I made the 1.0 with LaTex. |
| 15:31 | <@AnnoDomini> | I'd rather jab hot forks into my eyes than try that again. |
| 15:37 | <@TheWatcher> | r/me patpats |
| 15:41 | < Consul> | LaTex sounds like a real hoot. |
| 15:43 | <@TheWatcher> | It requires a certain sort of mind |
| 15:43 | <@TheWatcher> | and a willlingness to lose it |
| 15:45 | < Consul> | It does, however, produce fantastic results if you can handle it. |
| 15:45 | < Consul> | At least for scientific/mathematical papers. |
| 15:45 | <@AnnoDomini> | http://wiki.scribus.net/index.php/How_to_create_lists_in_Scribus <- Reading is apparently tech. I can't understand these instructions. |
| 15:46 | < Consul> | Yeah, the docs for Scribus do assume you're already a typesetting professional. I found that out first-hand. |
| 15:48 | < Consul> | In my case, I needed to figure out how to lay out pages for double-sided saddle binding. I ended up having to do it manually. |
| 15:50 | <@AnnoDomini> | Well, I suppose having to do everything manually isn't so bad, when your alternative is LaTeX where when you want a specific effect, you are stuck with a multitude of options that are all wrong. |
| 15:50 | < Consul> | Apparently, sorting the pages for saddle binding is usually handled at the printer. |
| 15:50 | < Consul> | But if your printer can't handle it... |
| 15:55 | <@AnnoDomini> | Grr. |
| 15:55 | <@AnnoDomini> | Why does Scribus not support Shift+Insert for paste? |
| 16:08 | <@gnolam> | Because nobody's used that seriously since 1995? :) |
| 16:11 | < Consul> | Everybody knows Ctrl-V is much better at pasting. :-P |
| 16:12 | <@AnnoDomini> | Is not. It's way too close to Ctrl+Z. |
| 16:12 | < Consul> | Hehe |
| 16:12 | < Consul> | Shift-Insert is Ctrl-V's bitch! |
| 16:21 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Mouse button 2 for the win. |
| 16:21 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Oh and of course, p. |
| 16:21 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Or P, depending on whether you want to precede or follow the character under the cursor. |
| 16:22 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Or even ^], for GNU screen users. |
| 16:23 | < Consul> | Blargh. Real programmer just use cat - > file :-P |
| 16:23 | < Consul> | +s |
| 16:24 | <@AnnoDomini> | You know what? I fear what I expect it will take to use tables in Scribus. |
| 16:27 | <@AnnoDomini> | Wait, hey, they actually included easy to use tables. :D |
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| 22:18 | <@AnnoDomini> | Okay. Why... the fuck... did you rename... text boxes, OO? |
| 22:19 | <@AnnoDomini> | I spent like fifteen minutes trying to find the damn function, thanks to that it's now named Frame. |
| 22:19 | < Shoukanjuu> | Someone just *massively* trolled you |
| 22:19 | < Shoukanjuu> | The only thing it can be >:/ |
| 22:19 | < Shoukanjuu> | I hate when things do that |
| 22:24 | <@gnolam> | Assuming that OO == OpenOffice, you should know by now that their UI designers have a particularly large and potent stash of crack in their office. |
| 22:25 | <@AnnoDomini> | Yes. |
| 22:25 | <@AnnoDomini> | M$ is a monopoly because the competition manages to be worse. |
| 22:27 | <@ToxicFrog> | Pffffffft. |
| 22:28 | < Shoukanjuu> | I never thought of it that way before. |
| 22:28 | < Shoukanjuu> | But for some cases, you're right. |
| 22:30 | <@McMartin> | Also, having a UI compatible with anyone else is asking to be slapped with 14 million patent lawsuits. |
| 22:30 | < Shoukanjuu> | \o/ |
| 22:30 | <@McMartin> | And MS would never stoop to that! |
| 22:31 | < Shoukanjuu> | XD |
| 22:31 | < Shoukanjuu> | Sorry, I laughed out loud |
| 22:31 | <@McMartin> | (They've been on the recieving end, too. It's one reason Windows submenus sucked so hard for so long.) |
| 22:35 | < Shoukanjuu> | If only people could get along. |
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| 23:05 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Shoukanjuu: to Hell with that. |
| 23:06 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Shoukanjuu: if only people would just get it over and done with - katanas at dawn, and forget bothering with the fucking lawyers, aye? |
| 23:07 | < Shoukanjuu> | No, see |
| 23:08 | < Shoukanjuu> | Yo ucan't *actually* do that. |
| 23:08 | < Shoukanjuu> | Microsoft would hold the patent on the katana, too. |
| 23:08 | < Shoukanjuu> | You'd be Just Like Them. |
| 23:08 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Eh. It only takes 14 years to expire. |
| 23:09 | < Shoukanjuu> | Hah |
| 23:09 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Katanas have been around a while longer than that. |
| 23:09 | < Shoukanjuu> | Bill Gates was here before us |
| 23:09 | < Shoukanjuu> | And long after we are gone |
| 23:09 | < Shoukanjuu> | Only he will remain |
| 23:09 | <@MyCatVerbs> | If not that, then fine. They can have the katanas, I'd rather have a Bren gun anyway. ^^ |
| 23:10 | < Shoukanjuu> | Bill Gates is the Highlander. I called it. |
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