| --- Log opened Fri May 02 00:00:53 2008 |
| 00:01 | | Shoukanjuu [~Shoukanju@Nightstar-18016.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #code |
| 00:03 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[zZzZ] |
| 01:57 | <@McMartin> | What?! Plot? In my space shooter? WTF? |
| 01:59 | <@Vornicus> | McM: what? |
| 01:59 | <@McMartin> | Nanostray 2 has a plot! |
| 01:59 | <@Vornicus> | Oh |
| 02:19 | < Shoukanjuu> | What are you talking about |
| 02:19 | < Shoukanjuu> | Ikaruga and Gradius, Zero Wing |
| 02:19 | < Shoukanjuu> | They have plots |
| 02:20 | < Shoukanjuu> | You don't need a book full of words for a plot, a paragraph will do |
| 02:20 | <@McMartin> | Nanostray 1 had no plot and no backstory. |
| 02:20 | <@McMartin> | Gradius does not really have a plot. |
| 02:20 | <@McMartin> | Until 5. |
| 02:20 | <@McMartin> | By "Has a plot" I mean it unfolds during play |
| 02:21 | <@McMartin> | Einhaender has a plot. Once you get to level 6 or so. |
| 02:22 | < Shoukanjuu> | >_> |
| 02:22 | < Shoukanjuu> | Oh, well okay, in that case, I see what you're saying |
| 02:22 | <@McMartin> | Now, this other impulse buy - Time Ace - has a plot, but it's allowed |
| 02:23 | <@McMartin> | Becuase it's a mad scientist collecting fighter jets and starfighters to take over the world during World War 1. |
| 02:23 | <@McMartin> | And this is totally allowed. |
| 02:23 | <@McMartin> | (Also, it's a mission-based chasecam shooter a la Rogue Squadron or Robotech Battlecry) |
| 02:23 | < Shoukanjuu> | (Ooh.) |
| 02:23 | < Shoukanjuu> | I need more of those. |
| 02:23 | <@McMartin> | No idea if it's actually any good, yet, though. |
| 02:24 | < Shoukanjuu> | Star Fox 64 was good. |
| 02:25 | < Shoukanjuu> | Assault just didn't do it for me. the music was...nasty, and there was too much height >_> |
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| 05:26 | <@McMartin> | http://blorple.sf.net/ - new version released |
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| 15:56 | | * SouthernMyst waves |
| 15:57 | <@SouthernMyst> | Does anyone know what "significant digits" are, in Java? As in, "The primitive data type float only stores 7 significant digits, whereas double stores 15." |
| 15:57 | <@SouthernMyst> | I need to know if something like 0.00000000096475 could be considered a float. |
| 15:58 | <@SouthernMyst> | I can't find it in my book, or online. |
| 16:08 | | * SouthernMyst tries to run it |
| 16:09 | <@SouthernMyst> | .. I guess not. |
| 16:32 | <@MyCatVerbs> | SouthernMyst: they're referring to the precision. |
| 16:33 | <@MyCatVerbs> | SouthernMyst: floating-point numbers are stored in something akin to scientific notation (i.e. saying 9.6475*10^-10 instead of 0.00000000096475). |
| 16:34 | <@MyCatVerbs> | SouthernMyst: (except that it's base-2 scientific notation rather than base-10, but the difference is immaterial for the moment) |
| 16:34 | <@SouthernMyst> | aha, thanks MCO. |
| 16:34 | <@MyCatVerbs> | SouthernMyst: what they're referring to is the fact that float values are only accurate to (just over) six digits after the first non-zero digit. |
| 16:35 | <@MyCatVerbs> | And for doubles, it's 14 digits after the first non-zero digit. |
| 16:35 | <@SouthernMyst> | Yeah, seems I had a completely different problem with the code, so ... yeah, it works now. |
| 16:35 | <@SouthernMyst> | >.> |
| 16:35 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Roughly, anyway. Actually it's 23 binary digits and 52 binary digits for doubles. But yeah. |
| 16:35 | <@SouthernMyst> | Thanks! |
| 16:35 | <@MyCatVerbs> | No worries. |
| 16:36 | <@MyCatVerbs> | SouthernMyst: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_754 <-- if you want all the blood-and-guts gory details, take a look. |
| 16:37 | | mode/#code [+sCMb +v!*@*] by MyCatVerbs |
| 16:37 | | ServerMode/#code [-sCMb +v!*@*] by Blargh.CA.US.Nightstar.Net |
| 16:37 | <@MyCatVerbs> | ...shit. |
| 16:37 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Oh fuckstains. What the HELL did I just do to the channel? |
| 16:38 | <@MyCatVerbs> | SouthernMyst: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_754 <-- if you want all the blood-and-guts gory details, take a look. |
| 16:38 | | mode/#code [+v MyCatVerbs] by MyCatVerbs |
| 16:38 | | ServerMode/#code [-v MyCatVerbs] by Blargh.CA.US.Nightstar.Net |
| 16:38 | <@MyCatVerbs> | ...the Hell. How on Earth can I possibly be marked +o but not +v? |
| 16:38 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Fuckit. |
| 16:38 | | * SouthernMyst hugs |
| 16:38 | <@MyCatVerbs> | SouthernMyst: if you want all the blood-and-guts gory details, look up "IEEE_754" on wikipedia. |
| 16:39 | | * MyCatVerbs reciprocates. "Yaaay, hugs!" |
| 16:39 | <@SouthernMyst> | I got the link, thanks :) |
| 16:39 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Did you? Oh, okay. The IRCd kept back "channel is +U, you need +v to send URLs" at me. |
| 16:39 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Did that message actually get through? |
| 16:45 | <@SouthernMyst> | yep |
| 16:46 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Mental note that this ircd is full of lies. |
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| 18:07 | <@McMartin> | MCV: People on some confused server would have failed to see it. |
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| 18:15 | <@MyCatVerbs> | McMartin: oh, ookay. |
| 18:15 | <@MyCatVerbs> | McMartin: hopefully that means "no one". |
| 18:15 | <@MyCatVerbs> | (Isn't nightstar supposed to have only one ircd? I mean, many instances of one ircd running on many machines, all homogenous 'n' stuff.) |
| 18:22 | <@McMartin> | Those getting out of sync is what produces netsplits. |
| 18:22 | <@McMartin> | There's only one Chanserv, and it's on Deepthought. |
| 18:25 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Hrmn. So right now, aside from you, me and Myst, I have -no idea- who might and and who might have not recieved that message. |
| 18:26 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Well, unless I wanted to sit around WHOISing people, then connect a fistful of IRC clients to every single server in nightstar and testing to see which ones get it. |
| 20:13 | <@ToxicFrog> | The actual cause is that not all the servers agree on who has ops. |
| 20:13 | <@ToxicFrog> | Deopping and reopping the speaker resynchronizes this. |
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| 20:42 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Huh. |
| 20:43 | | mode/#code [-o MyCatVerbs] by MyCatVerbs |
| 20:43 | < MyCatVerbs> | Problem solved? :) |
| 20:50 | < Shoukanjuu> | got the three hundres dollas I'm suppose to pay my mortgage with. |
| 20:50 | < Shoukanjuu> | Thanks, mister Bush. v_V |
| 20:52 | <@AnnoDomini> | I went on a trip to Chernobyl for 104 dollars. Go Dubya! |
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| 20:57 | < Shoukanjuu> | Now, I've never known a mortgage payment to be about 300 dollars for an entire year |
| 20:57 | < Shoukanjuu> | Lucky for me, I don't pay rent or mortgage, so I'm all good |
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| 22:34 | <@McMartin> | "Until 2008, NI compiled code which ran on top of the traditional I6 library: now it compiles standalone code which never uses the Include directive." |
| 22:35 | < Shoukanjuu> | Wait, does that work? |
| 22:43 | <@McMartin> | It certainly does. |
| 22:43 | <@McMartin> | It's also probably why my work in progress is a smaller binary under the latest I7. |
| 22:44 | <@McMartin> | The whole action-processing model in I7 is wildly different from I6's. |
| 22:46 | < Shoukanjuu> | Amazing. |
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