| --- Log opened Fri Mar 23 00:00:52 2007 |
| 00:06 | <@Vornicus> | I haven't played Uplink in a week and I'm still thinking about a gui remake for it. ;_; |
| 00:07 | <@Vornicus> | CTCPREPLY is a notice with ^A around it. |
| 00:07 | < MyCatVerbs> | ToxicFrog: jah, that's what bit me. I'd typo ATCION or something and get kicked. ^^ |
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| 00:41 | <@Vornicus> | Arg. Why have I not been able to do any work on Catan art lately? |
| 00:45 | | * McMartin packages up an old program he wrote so that it might be independently distributable. |
| 00:49 | | * Vornicus gnaws on PostScript. |
| 00:49 | < Doctor_Nick> | Vornicus: ill make some |
| 00:50 | < Doctor_Nick> | here is the robber: . |
| 00:50 | <@Vornicus> | I have the robber already. |
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| 01:05 | <@McMartin> | http://www.stanford.edu/~mcmartin/keyjam/keyjam.zip uploaded. |
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| 02:27 | | * Vornicus completes Chapel, Market, and Governor's House. |
| 02:31 | | Derakon[AFK] is now known as Derakon |
| 02:51 | | * Vornicus completes the victory point cards. 83 down, 7 to go. |
| 02:51 | <@McMartin> | Heh |
| 02:52 | <@Vornicus> | Well, okay, to be perfectly fair, I should be counting input files. 35 down, 7 to go. |
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| 03:13 | <@Derakon> | I seek suggestions for outfits. |
| 03:13 | <@Derakon> | For the game, that is. |
| 03:13 | <@Derakon> | Also, if TF were around, that would be great. |
| 03:20 | | Reiver is now known as ReivOut |
| 03:26 | | * Derakon glowers at an infinite recursion in his update function, which doesn't seem to be self-evident. |
| 03:32 | | Derakon is now known as Derakon[Blended] |
| 03:44 | | * Vornicus fiddles, trying to figure out art. |
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| 04:56 | | * Vornicus completes Road Building. |
| 04:57 | <@Vornicus> | 36/42; 84/90 |
| 05:01 | | * McMartin prods VControl, trying to break it into convenient layers. |
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| 05:48 | | * Derakon pokes TF. |
| 05:49 | <@Derakon> | I have an infinite loop in my update cycle, apparently because I did Shooter:New(self). Any ideas? http://pastie.caboo.se/48971 |
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| 05:52 | < Doctor_Nick> | derakon: thats easy |
| 05:52 | < Doctor_Nick> | just solve the halting problem |
| 05:52 | <@Derakon> | Your advice, Nick, is, as always, utterly invaluable. To someone else. |
| 05:53 | < Doctor_Nick> | i know |
| 05:53 | < Doctor_Nick> | im like linus fucking torvalds here |
| 05:55 | <@ToxicFrog> | ...that is weirdness. |
| 05:55 | <@ToxicFrog> | Your code looks fine to me. |
| 05:55 | <@Derakon> | That's what I thought. |
| 05:55 | <@Derakon> | If I nix the Shooter constructor, though, then it works fine...up until it tries to index the "owner" field in Shooter. |
| 05:56 | <@ToxicFrog> | o.O |
| 05:58 | <@ToxicFrog> | ...hmm. |
| 05:58 | <@ToxicFrog> | Sudden thought. |
| 05:59 | | * Derakon finds a few stupid mistakes in Shooter and fixes them... |
| 05:59 | <@ToxicFrog> | Try nixing the Shooter constructor, and creating it using: |
| 05:59 | <@ToxicFrog> | self.outfits["gun"] = Shooter:New { owner = self } |
| 05:59 | <@ToxicFrog> | And declaring shooter.owner as false in the shooter definition. |
| 06:00 | <@ToxicFrog> | Still, though, this shouldn't be happening. |
| 06:00 | <@ToxicFrog> | The only thing I can think of is that the code in Object:New() which is meant to implement table-copy constructors is going insane and copying the :update method from Player. |
| 06:00 | <@Derakon> | Okay, I think the constructor is actually fine...? |
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| 06:00 | <@Derakon> | I've fixed some boneheadedness in Shooter and now have a new failure mode. |
| 06:01 | <@Derakon> | But frankly I need to get to bed. |
| 06:01 | <@Derakon> | I'll give the named arguments thing a shot tomorrow; thanks. |
| 06:01 | <@ToxicFrog> | I'm not entirely sure, but I think the version of Object I gave you supports those. |
| 06:01 | <@ToxicFrog> | If there's a bug in the code that implements that support, calling Shooter:New(self) might cause it to copy all methods and fields from self. |
| 06:01 | <@ToxicFrog> | Including :update(). |
| 06:01 | <@Derakon> | for k,v in pairs(init) do |
| 06:01 | <@Derakon> | self[k] = v |
| 06:01 | <@Derakon> | end |
| 06:02 | <@Derakon> | That's Object:__new. |
| 06:02 | <@ToxicFrog> | ....yeah, that's the problem. |
| 06:02 | <@ToxicFrog> | Easy fix: |
| 06:02 | <@ToxicFrog> | if self[k] == false then self[k] = v end |
| 06:02 | <@ToxicFrog> | This way, only fields declared as false in the class definition will be overwritten. |
| 06:03 | <@Derakon> | Hot. It works now. |
| 06:03 | <@ToxicFrog> | The issue here is that you're passing in self, and it's taking that as an initializer table and copying its contents into the new object. |
| 06:03 | | * Derakon nods. |
| 06:03 | <@Derakon> | And that includes the update function. |
| 06:03 | <@ToxicFrog> | Yep. |
| 06:03 | <@Derakon> | Which means that Shooter's update function is now Player's update function. |
| 06:03 | <@Derakon> | So it's recursive. |
| 06:04 | <@ToxicFrog> | And it's not tail-recursive, thus, stack overflow. |
| 06:04 | <@Derakon> | Makes sense. |
| 06:04 | <@Derakon> | At some point I'm gonna have to write documentation for all this stuff...I should probably wait until it's stable, though. |
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| 06:07 | <@ToxicFrog> | I need to actually write and release a documented, feature-frozen version of this OO framework. |
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| 09:45 | | * Vornicus completes Year Of Plenty. |
| 09:45 | <@Vornicus> | 3 left. |
| 09:46 | <@Serah> | Whoo. |
| 09:46 | | * Serah roots for Vorn. |
| 09:47 | <@Vornicus> | http://vorn.dyndns.org/~vorn/catan/postscript-art/devcard/yearofplenty.png |
| 09:48 | <@Serah> | ^_^ |
| 09:52 | | Mahal is now known as MahalBedd |
| 09:57 | | * Vornicus completes unknown development card. |
| 09:57 | <@Vornicus> | 2 left. |
| 09:58 | <@Serah> | Does that mean it's almost playable? |
| 09:58 | <@Serah> | Or does it mean you're done drawing? |
| 09:58 | <@Vornicus> | It means only that I am very nearly done drawing. |
| 09:59 | | * Serah prances silently around Vornicus. |
| 10:15 | <@Vornicus> | Ding90. |
| 10:16 | | * MyCatVerbs attaches a bell to a length of cord and hangs it around Serah's neck, so that prancing need never be endured in silence again. |
| 10:16 | | * Serah puts MyCatVerbs into a rusty box |
| 10:16 | | * Serah writes on the box "MyCatVerbs" |
| 10:16 | | * Serah mails the box to Abu Dhabi. |
| 10:42 | < Reiver> | Ooooh! |
| 10:43 | | * Reiver just dug out the old Heavy Gear movies from their CD. They're like, 15 MB each. |
| 11:12 | <@Vornicus> | http://unspeakablevorn.livejournal.com/30173.html |
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| 17:28 | <@Vornicus> | By the way, TF, if you want to see what charpath/stroke does, it does this: http://vorn.dyndns.org/~vorn/catan/postscript-art/devcard/unknown.png |
| 17:30 | | * jerith ponders how best to do this. |
| 17:30 | <@Vornicus> | ? |
| 17:30 | <@jerith> | Do I want to tokenise everything and then turn the tokens into the output or just translate directly to the output? |
| 17:31 | <@jerith> | I'm writing a vim->python regex translator. |
| 17:31 | <@Vornicus> | Oh. |
| 17:31 | <@Vornicus> | I... hm |
| 17:32 | <@jerith> | The former is more flexible, but also more work. |
| 17:32 | <@jerith> | I think. |
| 17:32 | <@Vornicus> | I'd tokenize it; explicit helps when you're doing crazy shit like that, and you get flexibility from it. |
| 17:32 | <@Vornicus> | Also it's harder to fool something that knows how to tokenize. |
| 17:32 | <@jerith> | Next question is what I use to represent tokens in Python. |
| 17:32 | | * Vornicus shrugs |
| 17:33 | <@Vornicus> | Schlockian's token representation is strings. |
| 17:33 | < Doctor_Nick> | UNKNOWN?! |
| 17:33 | < Doctor_Nick> | myserious! |
| 17:33 | < Doctor_Nick> | who the hell is using my vaccum cleaner |
| 17:33 | <@jerith> | Also, I can't find a decent vim regex grammar. |
| 17:33 | <@ToxicFrog> | Sure it doesn't just use standard POSIX EREs? |
| 17:33 | <@jerith> | No. |
| 17:34 | <@jerith> | At least, I don't think so. |
| 17:34 | <@jerith> | It also has a bunch of different "magicness" modes. |
| 17:34 | <@jerith> | I suppose I could just RTFS, but it's fairly obscure. |
| 17:35 | | * ToxicFrog implements Lisp lists in Lua |
| 17:40 | | * jerith ponders. |
| 17:41 | <@jerith> | Should I represent literals as themselves? |
| 17:42 | <@ToxicFrog> | Generally I make each token a class. |
| 17:42 | <@ToxicFrog> | Err, each token type a class, each token an object. |
| 17:42 | <@ToxicFrog> | Because then tokens which vary in actual representation contain both the token type (Number) and the value (1.6) |
| 17:43 | <@jerith> | Hmm... |
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| 19:10 | <@jerith> | Yay! This thing seems to be sort of working. |
| 19:10 | <@jerith> | Now I just need to implement the rest of the grammar. |
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| 21:11 | | * Janus takes his first crack at comic... things. |
| 21:12 | < Janus> | http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/51524454/ |
| 21:12 | | * ToxicFrog determines that he cannot parse these argument lists using regular expressions alone |
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| 23:02 | < ReivZzz> | Hey, Vorn |
| 23:02 | < ReivZzz> | I had an idea. |
| 23:02 | < ReivZzz> | You know your trophies? |
| 23:02 | < ReivZzz> | They are nice, but a bit... plain... for a trophy. |
| 23:02 | < ReivZzz> | Suggestion: Give them a little drop-shadow. |
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| --- Log closed Sat Mar 24 00:00:52 2007 |