| --- Log opened Wed Feb 21 00:00:30 2007 |
| 00:15 | < Janus> | Yay, a non-weird question for once~ |
| 00:17 | < Janus> | For jumping, would it make more sense for the upward force to increase as the button is held down, or to keep a constant upward force until it's no longer being held down? |
| 00:18 | < gnolam> | Constant until it's no longer held down or the maximum jump time is reached. |
| 00:19 | < gnolam> | It's the Platformer Standard (TM). |
| 00:19 | < Janus> | Alrighty, thanks Sir~ |
| 00:19 | < gnolam> | Just remember to not let the player jump again until he's landed. |
| 00:23 | < Janus> | Right. The button should only work once for each jump too, so it doesn't missfire if they land and it's still down, right? |
| 01:00 | < gnolam> | That's up to you. |
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| 01:36 | < Vornicus> | TF, how is progress on your TA music hack? |
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| 01:56 | < Mischief> | Heyo, all |
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| 02:08 | < Vornicus> | howdeh |
| 02:08 | < Mischief> | Hows goes it/ |
| 02:08 | < Vornicus> | it goes well. you were looking for C++ support? |
| 02:09 | < gnolam> | Yay, Forth! |
| 02:09 | < gnolam> | ... or, well, un-yay. |
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| 02:46 | < Takyoji> | How would I be able to create a simple online chatroom? |
| 02:46 | < Takyoji> | For example, I was considering on making such a thing for a website of mine which customers could use to contact a representative |
| 02:47 | < Takyoji> | could such a thing be done with PHP? |
| 02:47 | < Takyoji> | or AJAX? |
| 02:47 | < Takyoji> | or... |
| 02:49 | < Mischief> | Yes, Vorn. Sorry for the delayed response. |
| 02:49 | < Mischief> | I'm buried under about 5 feet of ASP.net and C++/Assembly code |
| 02:49 | < Mischief> | I was neck deep about an hour ago, no one saved me. XP |
| 02:50 | < Vornicus> | Takyoji: you'd be best off using a Java or Flash client. |
| 02:50 | < Mischief> | Takyoji, a common applet is by Java in my opinion. I believe--- What he said |
| 02:51 | < Mischief> | Java is fairly simple, I may have an applet laying around if you need it. |
| 02:51 | < Takyoji> | hmm |
| 02:51 | < Mischief> | It's only client side, however. You will need a IRC-Server and port number to connect the script. :) |
| 02:52 | < Vornicus> | while you /can/ make an ajax chat client, it would not be pleasant. |
| 02:52 | < Takyoji> | I was thinking that I could host the server on my computer though.. since of course i |
| 02:52 | < Takyoji> | as far as? |
| 02:53 | < Takyoji> | I'd have to make it save a message in XML and the chat would have to reload an XML doc every couple seconds or what? |
| 02:53 | < Takyoji> | I'm also trying to think how I could host the Chat server without giving away my IP address directly |
| 02:54 | < Vornicus> | You can't, really |
| 02:54 | < Takyoji> | crap.. |
| 02:54 | < Takyoji> | Well, what's the worst that could happen.. DoS? |
| 02:55 | < Mischief> | DNS is a good way to hide your IP from "Lamerz" |
| 02:55 | < Vornicus> | Not that good. |
| 02:55 | < Mischief> | I suppose thus is the reason for firewalls. |
| 02:56 | < Takyoji> | Yea, I also suppose I do need better firewall software right now anyway.. |
| 02:56 | < Mischief> | Wait, wasn't there.. mydns.com or somesuch? |
| 02:56 | < Vornicus> | in fact entirely useless. |
| 02:56 | < Mischief> | Gives away free DNSes, My memory isn't that good. |
| 02:56 | < Vornicus> | dyndns.org is there. But if you want to run a chat server, you may need to run your chat server on the web server. |
| 02:57 | < Mischief> | That's the one |
| 02:57 | < Takyoji> | I don't have a dedicated server though |
| 02:57 | < Mischief> | Also, I still suggest Zone Alarm :P |
| 02:57 | < Takyoji> | k |
| 02:57 | < Mischief> | .. For advanced users, I can't stand the thought of a firewall decided program permissions automatically... Just... Ew. |
| 02:58 | < Takyoji> | So... ZoneAlarm costs some money, correct? |
| 02:58 | < Mischief> | There's a Trial version, but yes. |
| 02:59 | < Mischief> | Zone Alarm Pro covers from IM security to Anti-virus, to Spyware. |
| 03:02 | < Mischief> | But eh, I forgot, I probably shouldn't be sounding like I'm a salesperson. |
| 03:02 | | * Mischief yanks Vorn into a PM. |
| 03:02 | < Takyoji> | for dyndns, is the DNS server supposed to be (what-ever-you-want).dyndns.com or what? |
| 03:03 | < Mischief> | Yes |
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| --- Log closed Wed Feb 21 11:41:24 2007 |
| --- Log opened Wed Feb 21 11:41:58 2007 |
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| 18:27 | <@ToxicFrog> | Analyzing http://gh.ffshrine.org/song/3013/2 |
| 18:27 | <@ToxicFrog> | Downloading MPOZZX^PSUYZW^YZWFFS^ZZXPSU^YZWFFS^NDAFFS^JJJMPO^ZZXPSU^MPOYZW^FFSMPO^CCVJJJ^YZW FFS^ZZXZZX^YZWZZX^.YZWFFS^JJJMPO^YZWMPO^ |
| 18:27 | <@ToxicFrog> | -> YZWPSU^MPOYZW^MPOYZW^JJJMPO^://NDAFFS^ZZXPSU^1.PSUYZW^PSUYZW^ZZXMPO^YZWPSU^MPOZZ X^CCVNDA^FFSYZW^CCVJJJ^.FFSMPO^MPOZZX^YZWMPO^/ZZXMPO^FFSMPO^NDACCV^FFSYZW^NDAFFS ^MPOYZW^MPOZZX^ZZXZZX^YZWKSC^JJJZZX^ZZXMPO^/NDAFFS^ZZXPSU^/3013/5JJJKSC^NDAFFS^4 5PSUYZW^/TFFSMPO^CCVJJJ^JZZXZZX^YZWZZX^ & EZZXZZX^MPOZZX^ZZXPSU^ (MCCVJJJ^YZWMPO^ZZXZZX^ DMPOZZX^CCVNDA^FFSKSC^CCVJJJ^) (RCCVNDA^JJJMPO^)/MPOZZX^PSUYZW^YZWFFS^ZZXPSU^YZWFFS |
| 18:27 | <@ToxicFrog> | ^NDAFFS^JJJMPO^ZZXPSU^MPOYZW^FFSMPO^CCVJJJ^YZWFFS^ZZXZZX^YZWZZX^.YZWFFS^JJJMPO^Y ZWMPO^ |
| 18:27 | <@ToxicFrog> | Done: 0 bytes. |
| 18:27 | <@ToxicFrog> | Bastards! |
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| 20:00 | < Mischief> | Does anyone know of the average kb/s of data transfered between server and client in today's modern MMORPGs? |
| 20:02 | <@ToxicFrog> | Nyet. |
| 20:02 | < AnnoDomini> | With spyware or without? :P |
| 20:04 | < Mischief> | Hmmm... *taps Sarcasm detector* It's a little over 51% sure that, that was indeed, sarcasm. |
| 20:05 | < AnnoDomini> | It was, first and foremost, a joke. |
| 20:05 | < AnnoDomini> | Notice the smiley. |
| 20:05 | < Mischief> | Yes yes, That's why I thought it was supposed to be funny. |
| 20:07 | < AnnoDomini> | ToxicFrog: What was that load of ASCII garbage you spewed forth? I'm curious. |
| 20:08 | < gnolam> | AnnoDomini: smiley and smiley. Emoticon. |
| 20:08 | < gnolam> | No smiles with a ":P". |
| 20:08 | | * AnnoDomini bites gnolam with his newly-fixed teeth. |
| 20:08 | < AnnoDomini> | Well, partially fixed. |
| 20:08 | < AnnoDomini> | Next dentist appointment in a week. |
| 20:09 | < Mischief> | Psuedonym! |
| 20:09 | <@ToxicFrog> | AnnoDomini: the latest round in GH's efforts to prevent their pages from being automatically downloaded. |
| 20:09 | < AnnoDomini> | GH? Ghoti-Heads? |
| 20:10 | < Mischief> | ThermoOctoQausiDynamicsPsuedonym. |
| 20:11 | < gnolam> | s/ue/eu |
| 20:12 | < Mischief> | Whoops, is it Pseudo, or Psuedo? |
| 20:12 | < jerith> | The former. |
| 20:12 | < Mischief> | Ah, righto |
| 20:13 | < jerith> | One of the few actual phonetic constructs in English. |
| 20:13 | < jerith> | eu -> eeoo. |
| 20:14 | <@ToxicFrog> | AnnoDomini: Galbadia Hotel. |
| 20:14 | <@ToxicFrog> | Music side. |
| 20:14 | <@ToxicFrog> | *site. |
| 20:14 | <@ToxicFrog> | var addr = new Array() |
| 20:14 | <@ToxicFrog> | addr[0] = "YZWJJJ^ZZXZZX^ZZXZZX^PSUCCV^://CCVFFS"; |
| 20:14 | <@ToxicFrog> | addr[1] = "^PSUMPO^1.JJJPSU^JJJPSU^KSCPSU^YZWJJJ"; |
| 20:14 | <@ToxicFrog> | (....) |
| 20:14 | <@ToxicFrog> | Address = unescape(Address); |
| 20:14 | <@ToxicFrog> | Address = Address.replace(/KSCNDA\^/g, "a"); |
| 20:14 | <@ToxicFrog> | Address = Address.replace(/YZWCCV\^/g, "b"); |
| 20:14 | <@ToxicFrog> | (...) |
| 20:15 | < jerith> | Someone should tell them it's XYZZY, not ZZXZZX... |
| 20:16 | < jerith> | How are they doing this, btw? |
| 20:18 | < jerith> | Usually they just check a referrer header. |
| 20:18 | <@ToxicFrog> | ...what do you mean, how? |
| 20:18 | < jerith> | And you can fake that pretty easily with curl. |
| 20:18 | <@ToxicFrog> | Um. |
| 20:18 | < jerith> | Well, what are they doing, rather. |
| 20:18 | <@ToxicFrog> | They're obfuscating the page source. |
| 20:18 | <@ToxicFrog> | The links are generated by Javascript at load time. |
| 20:18 | < jerith> | Ah. |
| 20:18 | <@ToxicFrog> | The javascript, in turn, generates the link by taking a bunch of strings, concatenating them, and then running them through a demunger. |
| 20:18 | < jerith> | Isn't there a firefox plugin to view generated source or somesuch? |
| 20:18 | <@ToxicFrog> | And *that* javascript is generated by taking a URL-encoded string, decoding it, and running it. |
| 20:18 | <@ToxicFrog> | Probably, but how does that help me? |
| 20:19 | < jerith> | Ah, it's all on-c;ick thingies. |
| 20:19 | <@ToxicFrog> | No, it's not. |
| 20:20 | <@ToxicFrog> | It decodes the JS, runs it, demunges the link, and then calls document.write() |
| 20:20 | < jerith> | It might be worth looking at a couple of the webdev plugins. They have JS debugging stuff built in, iirc. |
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| 20:20 | <@ToxicFrog> | Can this firefox plugin be invoked from the command line to dump the generated source to stdout? |
| 20:20 | <@ToxicFrog> | If not, it's useless to me. |
| 20:21 | < jerith> | Oh, you want o automate it? |
| 20:21 | < jerith> | +t |
| 20:21 | < jerith> | Hmm... |
| 20:21 | <@ToxicFrog> | It is automated. I need to update the automation to match the changes to page source they've made. |
| 20:22 | < jerith> | Ah. |
| 20:22 | | * jerith is enlightened. |
| 20:23 | < jerith> | In other news, I had to write this little chunk of code today: http://www.jerith.za.net/code/capturestdout.html |
| 20:23 | < jerith> | (Hand-typed link, my be broken.) |
| 20:23 | < jerith> | +a |
| 20:24 | < jerith> | Tomorrow I get to do the same thing in Python. |
| 20:24 | < MyCatVerbs> | jerith: yuuuck! That's what shell redirects are supposed to be for! |
| 20:24 | <@ToxicFrog> | I'm going to have to resurrect my parser-of-replace()-calls ;.; |
| 20:24 | < jerith> | Shell redirects don't work when you're writing tests around a library. |
| 20:27 | < jerith> | I actually thought it was rather nifty. In a dirty kind of way. |
| 20:29 | < jerith> | Anyways, bedtime for me. |
| 20:29 | < jerith> | G'night all. |
| 20:29 | < jerith> | G'luck, F. |
| 20:30 | < jerith> | *TF |
| 20:39 | < MyCatVerbs> | jerith: yay for reflection! Three cheers for introspection! |
| 20:39 | < MyCatVerbs> | (I wasn't saying it wasn't nifty, I was just saying, y'know... stderr is there for a *reason*. :/) |
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