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--- Log opened Tue Apr 29 00:00:50 2014
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00:51
< Mantisking>
Anyone around?
04:22
< Soren>
Somewhat?
04:34
< Mantisking>
I might be here too. :-)
04:45
< Soren>
So you were away, but there has been more spaceshippery:
04:45
< Soren>
https://www.dropbox.com/s/083xrxbj6g1fns8/Edge-class%20Frigate%2001.jpg
04:45
< Soren>
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ca5ukdleduqez1d/Edge-class%20Frigate%2002.jpg
04:45
< Soren>
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7hnglk73tsowqz7/Edge-class%20Frigate%2003.jpg
04:53
< Mantisking>
Hunh. UMFL?
04:53
< Soren>
TTA, but same difference, theyāre all in each othersā pockets ;)
04:54
< Mantisking>
Ah. I'm still associating red with Mars.
04:56
< Mantisking>
I -- mostly -- finished up the big brother to this guy tonight. https://www.flickr.com/photos/35895569@N05/5762150851/in/set-72157625191150836
04:58
< Soren>
cute!
04:58
< Soren>
The egg shape is appealing.
04:59
< Soren>
And those Bionicle bits are interesting.
05:00
< Mantisking>
They're a great way of greebling at small scales.
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< Gunhead>
Heya
05:06
< Soren>
Hello.
05:07
< Gunhead>
So is Intercept Orbit simply the new name for Alpha Bandit?
05:08
< Soren>
Yes.
05:09
< Gunhead>
Cool, cool. Any plans for an RPG? The MFZ universe is definitely interesting enough for one.
05:10
< Soren>
Yes, but thatās much mor Joshuaās purview than mine.
05:10
< Soren>
more*
05:10
< Soren>
I handle the āmake pretty Lego robots and co-bullshit about the settingā portion of the job.
05:11
< Gunhead>
Terrain too, which I seriously dig.
05:11
< Soren>
Yeah, thatās ended up being part of my job too.
05:12
< Soren>
But as far as being qualified to have any input on an RPG, I meanā¦ I have opinions about the universe?
05:13
< Soren>
But I donāt play them, so designing one would be an exercise in I Donāt Know What The Fuck Iām Doing.
05:13
< Gunhead>
Joshua seems very keen on making it as unlike 40K as possible, which I can appreciate.
05:13
< Gunhead>
(Except the Orks, they're fun).
05:13
< Soren>
Not that ti wouldnāt be a hilarious one, but I leave it to Joshua because he likes it and is, so far as i can tell, good at it.
05:13
< Soren>
it*
05:14
< Gunhead>
Yeah, I ought to check out those storytelling games he worked on.
05:15
< Gunhead>
Only game I've ever made that was really playable was a kind of Car Wars successor/ripoff, which was pretty fun.
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< Gunhead>
You guys know MFZ actually has a pretty dedicated fanbase on 4chan's /tg/ of all places?
05:18
< Soren>
Yep. The guy whoās been posting all those threads hangs out in here.
05:22
< Gunhead>
Ah, seems there's an RPG project under the name MFZ: Manual Override
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< Mantisking>
Hello?
18:30
< Ced23Ric>
Heya!
18:30
< Ced23Ric>
Sorry. :)
18:32
< Mantisking>
About?
18:35
< Ced23Ric>
Well, being a slowpoke.
18:35
< Mantisking>
I don't understand.
18:35
< Mantisking>
Did I come in in the middle of a conversation?
18:39
< Ced23Ric>
No ... I was just sitting here.
18:39
< Ced23Ric>
You came in.
18:39
< Ced23Ric>
And asked "Hello?"
18:39
< Ced23Ric>
Some ime later I greeted you.
18:40
< Ced23Ric>
The delay is what I apologized for.
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< Mantisking_>
Sorry about that. The system went a little wonky.
18:46
< Mantisking_>
How are you doing today?
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18:49
< Ced23Ric>
I am quite alright.
18:50
< Ced23Ric>
I thought about your modular ship idea.
18:50
< Ced23Ric>
And I think I'll approach that today.
18:50
< Ced23Ric>
Come up with some variant hulls, for different factions (Ijad/SU/FC).
18:53
< Mantisking_>
Cool. I built an "ECM Pod" and it'll be featured in my next blog post along with a bunch of other modular plug-ins.
18:53
< Mantisking_>
With a shout-out to you in the description of the pod.
18:55
< Ced23Ric>
I was thinking about something like "large slots" and "small slots".
18:55
< Ced23Ric>
For Split-range weapons.
18:56
< Mantisking_>
Ugh. :-)
18:57
< Mantisking_>
I'm not sure you need to get that specific. Just make sure it's modular and can be popped off for damage.
18:59
< Ced23Ric>
Well, yes, I don't need to.
18:59
< Ced23Ric>
But that's my approach.
18:59
< Ced23Ric>
Because I think I can. ;)
19:01
< Mantisking_>
You may be over-thinking this.
19:02
< Ced23Ric>
I just want to exploit this to the fullest. :D
19:08
< Mantisking_>
Heh. I've gotten more attention on Facebook and G+ for this idea than the Hangar.
19:08
< Ced23Ric>
Hangar is slow and insular.
19:09
< Ced23Ric>
The other communities are a lot more open.
19:11
< Mantisking_>
They also tend to favor overbuilt and "pretty" over workmanlike.
19:14
< Ced23Ric>
Yes, they do.
19:14
< Ced23Ric>
There's a fair chunk of glass cabinet worthy stuff that is way too flimsy for a gaming table.
19:15
< Mantisking_>
Totally.
19:35
< Mantisking_>
Looks like we're in the Tuesday doldrums.
19:35
< Ced23Ric>
This is so much fun.
19:35
< Ced23Ric>
The modular ship thing.
19:36
< Mantisking_>
Yeah? You're building right now?
19:36
< Ced23Ric>
Virtual lego, but yes.
19:37
< Ced23Ric>
Want a preview?
19:39
< Mantisking_>
Sure!
19:39
< Ced23Ric>
Lemme quickly wrap this up.
19:44
< Ced23Ric>
So, I guess the ultimate test is, if I can build whatever comes up, right?
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19:58
< Mantisking_>
Welcome back.
19:58
< Ced23Ric>
Just giving her a quick paintjob.
19:59
< Ced23Ric>
Okay.
19:59
< Ced23Ric>
Give me a loadout.
19:59
< Ced23Ric>
Any loadout.
19:59
< Ced23Ric>
Doesn't have to be a good or sensical one.
19:59
< Ced23Ric>
For a frigate, mind you, so 3 systems.
19:59
< Ced23Ric>
Can be doubles or not.
20:01
< Mantisking_>
2 @ Assault + 1 Catapult.
20:02
< Ced23Ric>
Alright, coming right up.
20:04
< Ced23Ric>
Okay, give me another one.
20:04
< Ced23Ric>
Like, give me two more.
20:05
< Mantisking_>
2B+1Y.
20:06
< Mantisking_>
2R Support +d8/ 2R point defense.
20:07
< Ced23Ric>
Okay.
20:12
< Ced23Ric>
I don't have a solution for 2 Rs yet.
20:12
< Ced23Ric>
I'll put on a G instead, okay?
20:14
< Ced23Ric>
It's the only thing I have no solution for. :D
20:15
< Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/frig_RaRaK.png
20:15
< Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/frig_BBY.png
20:15
< Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/frig_RsRpG.png
20:20
< Mantisking_>
On that last one just put a second mass driver on the Port side and that'll give you 2R+d8 @ Support.
20:20
< Ced23Ric>
Port side looks different, but I underped myself. I used the keel slots and moved the chin gun elsewhere.
20:21
< Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/frig_RsRsRp.png
20:22
< Ced23Ric>
Whaddaya think?
20:24
< Mantisking_>
Not bad. The only one i don't really see the attachments for is the Armored Spotter (2b/1y).
20:24
< Ced23Ric>
First link.
20:25
< Ced23Ric>
2 ECM launchers, one chin, one flank, and 1 scanner/comm array, topside.
20:29
< Mantisking_>
Okay. They blend in a little.
20:29
< Ced23Ric>
Yeah, the systems aren't too pronounced, so they don't go over the boundaries too much.
20:29
< Ced23Ric>
But, in general?
20:34
< Mantisking_>
Yeah, I like them.
20:35
< Mantisking_>
It's nice seeing someone else give the idea a try.
20:36
< Ced23Ric>
I'll try my hand a cruiser hull.
21:24
< Ced23Ric>
Alright, here's the cruiser hull.
21:25
< Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/cruiser_BYYRs.png
21:25
< Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/cruiser_GKRpRa
21:25
< Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/cruiser_GKRpRa.png
21:25
< Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/cruiser_BKRsRs.png
21:25
< Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/cruiser_all.png
21:36
< Mantisking_>
Cruisers can't have a Green die.
21:37
< Mantisking_>
But otherwise, nice job.
21:39
< Ced23Ric>
They can't?
21:39
< Ced23Ric>
Well then!
21:39
< Ced23Ric>
I think that's bull. :D
21:40
< Ced23Ric>
But I also just realized how easy your system can be adopted into a wide variance of shapes.
21:41
< Soren>
Itās a good system. If I didnāt have to make promotional as well as functional designs, Iād probably have eneded up with something like it.
21:41
< Soren>
ended*
21:41
< Ced23Ric>
Soren, can you do me a favour?
21:41
< Ced23Ric>
If time allows it.
21:42
< Soren>
tralala dum dee ay, I cannot type today.
21:42
< Soren>
depends on the favor.
21:42
< Ced23Ric>
Try your hand at something like that.
21:42
< Soren>
hrm.
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< Soren>
I will consider it.
21:44
< Soren>
I have a lot of stuff on my plate already.
21:44
< Ced23Ric>
Heh. Sure.
21:44
< Soren>
And really, itās hard to top technic bricks. I might introduce some studless technic, thatās about it.
21:45
< Ced23Ric>
Well, it's more about the shapes you come up with.
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< Mantisking>
Dammit. I got kicked out again.
21:46
< Ced23Ric>
What I got there is very blocky.
21:46
< Ced23Ric>
I'd like to see if I can make something more sleek, yet modular.
21:47
< Soren>
Well, as long as it has the relevant sockets, you should be okay.
21:48
< Ced23Ric>
Mhmm. Yeah.
21:48
< Ced23Ric>
I'll let the thought simmer for a bit.
21:48
< Ced23Ric>
And I still want a triangular ship.
21:48
< Ced23Ric>
This might be a good point to combine those ideas.
21:49
< Soren>
Yeah
21:50
< Soren>
Well, hinging, man.
21:50
< Ced23Ric>
Hinging and rotors.
21:50
< Mantisking>
Hey, Soren.
21:50
< Ced23Ric>
It's motors and butts all over again!
21:50
< Soren>
it is!
21:51
< Ced23Ric>
Mhmm.
21:51
< Ced23Ric>
I think I got an idea I like.
21:52
< Mantisking>
Ced, I liked the the way the ships looked like they were all solid block construction.
21:52
< Ced23Ric>
Well, that was a goal there.
21:52
< Mantisking>
As if you could drop one and it wouldn't really matter.
21:52
< Ced23Ric>
Like, "This is the superstructure."
21:52
< Ced23Ric>
Oh yeah, those things would be solid as a rock.
21:59
< Ced23Ric>
Soren, how do you even close a hinged thing?
21:59
< Soren>
hmm?/
21:59
< Ced23Ric>
Like, if it goes straigt, no problem.
21:59
< Ced23Ric>
But how do I close it towards a tip, for exampleĆ
21:59
< Ced23Ric>
Lemme make a quick thing here.
22:00
< Soren>
That is where the magic happens.
22:01
< Soren>
https://secure.flickr.com/photos/bricklovinfreakboy/4296444651/ This was my most recent attempt.
22:01
< Ced23Ric>
Yeah!
22:01
< Ced23Ric>
That!
22:01
< Ced23Ric>
What the fuck.
22:02
< Ced23Ric>
You hinged the hinged hinge.
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22:02
< Mantisking_>
Frell, frell, frell.
22:02
< Ced23Ric>
But I think I know now how to deal with that.
22:02
< Ced23Ric>
The solution will surprise you.
22:02
< Ced23Ric>
Are you ready for it?
22:02
< Ced23Ric>
"Not at all."
22:02
< Soren>
Yes.
22:03
< Ced23Ric>
I'll leave it open and greeble the shit out of the space.
22:04
< Mantisking_>
Sounds interesting.
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22:08
< Mantisking_>
Soren, weren't you talking to someone the other day about using those new Star Wars chibi ships for Intercept Orbit?
22:09
< Soren>
maybe?
22:09
< Soren>
I think that was someone else.
22:09
< Soren>
But thereās no inherent reason why you couldn't.
22:10
< Mantisking_>
I was just mentioning it because I saw that TRU is running a 30% off sale on Star Wars lego.
22:10
< Soren>
hmm!
22:10
< Soren>
Not bad.
22:19
< Mantisking_>
Yeah. Let's hope it's not a bait & switch.
22:20
< Ced23Ric>
Soren?
22:20
< Ced23Ric>
Give me a cool bridge.
22:20
< Ced23Ric>
For a cap ship.
22:21
< Soren>
hmm.
22:22
< Soren>
Iāve never been big on those, as a rule.
22:23
< Ced23Ric>
Fair enough.
22:23
< Ced23Ric>
Then what do with a hollow prism corpus?
22:24
< Soren>
?!
22:26
< Mantisking_>
Dude, I don't know either.
22:27
< Ced23Ric>
Sec.
22:27
< Ced23Ric>
But.
22:27
< Ced23Ric>
Actually.
22:27
< Ced23Ric>
I got something.
22:32
< Mantisking_>
Okay, I'm shutting down the work box. Catch you guys on the flip side.
22:32
< Ced23Ric>
Later!
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23:11
< Soren>
oof.
23:11
< Soren>
JUst, oof.
23:12
< Ced23Ric>
I am on to something, hence my silence. Sorry.
23:12
< Ced23Ric>
What's up?
23:12
< Soren>
Np.
23:12
< Soren>
Oh, just tired.
23:12
< Soren>
I canāt tell if Iām just generally worn down or what.
23:13
< Ced23Ric>
As in, generally exhausted or temporarily pooped?
23:13
< Soren>
the former.
23:14
< Ced23Ric>
Well, yes, but you sound like you are trying to determine which it is.
23:14
< Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/modular_hull.png
23:14
< Soren>
Very nice.
23:15
< Soren>
Iām trying to figure out if itās stuff with a proximate cause or not.
23:15
< Soren>
Iāve been putting off dealing with sme stresses since 2010.
23:15
< Soren>
some*
23:15
< Soren>
So the backlog is mighty.
23:16
< Ced23Ric>
I bet it is.
23:16
< Soren>
I *think* once this project is over Iāll be able to get caught up.
23:18
< Ced23Ric>
What are you working on right now?
23:18
< Ced23Ric>
Backer stuff?
23:19
< Soren>
That and getting things wrapped up with instructions.
23:19
< Soren>
Which is no big deal.
23:20
< Ced23Ric>
Gotcha.
23:20
< Soren>
Dealing with backer stuff should be mostly no big deal as long as Joshua doesnāt do anything else ot jeopardize my ability to deliver.
23:20
< Ced23Ric>
Got anything cool for the customs yet?
23:20
< Soren>
Havenāt talked to people yet.
23:21
< Ced23Ric>
Oh. Aww.
23:21
< Ced23Ric>
When?
23:21
< Soren>
Not sure.
23:22
< Soren>
The way we did it last time, J handled the rules-related portion, and I handled the portion involving pretty things.
23:22
< Soren>
There was some back-and-forth
23:22
< Soren>
But I canāt see backer levels, so until he gets up talking to one another, I canāt contact people on my own.
23:23
< Ced23Ric>
This time, you are on hold until summoned?
23:25
< Soren>
Itās more like, it doesnāt make sense for me to try to start this too early.
23:25
< Ced23Ric>
Well, no.
23:25
< Soren>
Iād rather work on the stuff I have concrete partslists for, too.
23:26
< Ced23Ric>
Because you don't know where the journey goes.
23:27
< Soren>
That and Iād end up doing a lot of work that would have to be redone later.
23:32
< Ced23Ric>
Also true.
23:35
< Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/modular_hull2.png
23:36
< Ced23Ric>
Okay, so that's where I am now.
23:36
< Ced23Ric>
The hinges are all stabilized.
23:36
< Ced23Ric>
The inside is filled with bits and greebles.
23:36
< Ced23Ric>
I have an array of hard points.
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< Mantisking>
Okay, hooked back up to the computer again.
23:39
< Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/modular_hull2.png
23:39
< Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/modular_hull3.png
23:40
< Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/modular_hull4.png
23:40
< Ced23Ric>
I think that has potential.
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23:40
< Mantisking_>
Let's see if *this* works.
23:40
< Ced23Ric>
[00:40:05] <Ced23Ric> http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/modular_hull2.png
23:40
< Ced23Ric>
[00:40:07] <Ced23Ric> http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/modular_hull3.png
23:40
< Ced23Ric>
[00:40:09] <Ced23Ric> http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/modular_hull4.png
23:41
< Ced23Ric>
[00:40:14] <Ced23Ric> I think that has potential.
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23:42
< Mantisking_>
Looks chunky.
23:42
< Ced23Ric>
Yupp.
23:44
< Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/cruiser_BKKRp.png
23:45
< Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/cruiser2_BKKRp.png
23:46
< Mantisking_>
A little too busy for me.
23:47
< Ced23Ric>
I think I can cut down on some of those hardpoints.
23:57
< Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/cruiser2_BYRaRa.png
23:57
< Ced23Ric>
All the missiles.
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