mf0 logs -> 2012 -> Tue, 26 Jun 2012< mf0.20120625.log - mf0.20120627.log >
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<+Tetrajak>
heya people
00:15
< afny>
o/
00:19
< afny>
Damn
00:19
< afny>
I wish the penny arcade game was available somewhere else
00:19
< afny>
for some reason my steam account stopped taking my debit card
00:19
< afny>
e
00:19
< afny>
+ven when it's got money in the account
00:20
<+Tetrajak>
suck :D
00:20
<+Tetrajak>
D:*
00:20
<+Tetrajak>
in unrelated news: I enjoy how anti-randolph-math some of the rules in MFZ are XD
00:20
<+Tetrajak>
or more specifically, how annoyed Vincent gets
00:21
< afny>
Haha
00:21
< afny>
I read it in his voice
00:22
< afny>
He definitely seems like the kind of guy that will just quietly tolerate rules lawyers before finally snapping and chasing them out of his house with a bat
00:23
<+Tetrajak>
Yea, he definitely has a problem with rules lawyers, or the bending of rules
00:23
< afny>
I'm confused as to what the discussion even is
00:24
< afny>
it's like, are you in cover to an enemy if you're both on opposite sides of a little wall or whatever?
00:24
<+Tetrajak>
it's about whether, in the precise mathematics of it, frames are in cover or not
00:24
<+Tetrajak>
yea
00:24
< afny>
but don't HtH attacks IGNORE cover anyway?
00:24
<+Tetrajak>
if not HtH
00:24
<+Tetrajak>
say, DF
00:24
< afny>
so they're not right next to eachother, then
00:24
< afny>
they're far away AND on other sides of the wall
00:24
<+Tetrajak>
well, they can be outside of HtH range of each other, but within 1 unit of the wall
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<+Tetrajak>
however
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< afny>
a damn long wall
00:25
<+Tetrajak>
the rules state that if unsure, then a frame is in cover
00:25
< afny>
even without that courtesy clause it just seems like there's no question
00:26
< afny>
unless we're talking about one looong THIN wall
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< afny>
a
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< afny>
+and both frames are on the same side of it
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< afny>
but not within HtH range of eachother
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< afny>
Hey MK
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< Mantisking>
Howdy.
00:26
< Mantisking>
Anyone else have trouble connecting?
00:27
< afny>
Been in here all day, but no drops
00:27
< Mantisking>
I tried logging in through my usual connection and it just sorta hung up.
00:29
<+Tetrajak>
afny: I think the courtesy clause makes the debate moot
00:30
< afny>
oh, definitely
00:31
< afny>
but even without it I just am boggled that they got into the discussion in the first place
00:31
< afny>
that's all
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00:32
< Mantisking_>
test
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<+Tetrajak>
afny: well, randolph does like to crunch numbers
00:32
<+Tetrajak>
MK: I see your test
00:32
< Mantisking_>
Apparently it worked.
00:34
< afny>
So TJ, I'll drag you into this discussion since you commented on the Flikr picture
00:34
< afny>
Do you buy the legs of the Hammerheads?
00:34
< afny>
mostly in the newer picture where they're walking, not the older version
00:35
<+Tetrajak>
If they were all done up in junkyard colours, sure
00:35
<+Tetrajak>
but if you plan on making them look finished, then no
00:35
< afny>
Well I mean just the build, not the colors
00:35
< afny>
but yeah, it's supposed to be scrap mods with a dash of urban camo
00:35
< afny>
(because I didn't have many bits left)
00:35
< afny>
but just looking at the shape, do you buy it?
00:35
<+Tetrajak>
I'm saying I'd only accept the build if they were in the appropriate colours, because it looks unfinished
00:36
< afny>
so...is that a yes or a no
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<+Tetrajak>
colours are important to me
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<+Tetrajak>
so it's a conditional yes/no
00:38
< MoF0-4664>
Let's try the third option!
00:38
< afny>
I'm saying completely disregarding color
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00:38
< afny>
the one closest to the "intended paintjob" is the far left one
00:38
< afny>
but if every single piece was light bley
00:39
< Mantisking>
It'd be boring?
00:39 * afny slaps his forehead
00:39
< Mantisking>
:-)
00:40
<+Tetrajak>
afny: link me again?
00:40
< afny>
Well the reason I ask is because Ced just sort of reamed me
00:40
< afny>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7443410030/
00:40
<+Tetrajak>
Ced is evil like that
00:40
< afny>
Well I value his input
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< afny>
but we appreciate different aesthetics
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<+Tetrajak>
afny: swap the light grey for dark grey, or the black for dark grey, and it works
00:40
< afny>
he's really havin' trouble
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00:41
< Mantisking>
Who?
00:41
< afny>
alright, well, I won't because I have no more bricks
00:41
< afny>
oh, you
00:41
< afny>
you keep disconnecting
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< afny>
BUT
00:41
< Mantisking>
Ah, I figured.
00:41
< afny>
I'll take that as a yes, TJ
00:41
< afny>
AND I WILL RUN WITH IT.
00:41
<+Tetrajak>
lololol
00:41
<+Tetrajak>
I like how junkyard it looks, you already know that :D
00:41
< afny>
I might actually swap them all around
00:41
< afny>
so it's even MORE random
00:41
< Mantisking>
#$%^&*ing IRC.
00:42
< Mantisking>
:-)
00:42
< afny>
i'm not confident in my ability to do actual camo but it's worth a try
00:42
< Mantisking>
Camo can be a pain in the ass.
00:42
< afny>
so can finding 2x9 plates
00:42
< Mantisking>
I tried making my Mechabuster look like it was doen up in urban camo.
00:43
< afny>
gotta link?
00:43
<+Tetrajak>
afny
00:43
<+Tetrajak>
when you say left, do you mean screen left?
00:43
<+Tetrajak>
i.e. the one in only black and grey?
00:43
< afny>
yeah, but I only said that to make you stop thinking about colors
00:43
<+Tetrajak>
-_-
00:44
< afny>
if these were intended to be "finished" in fluff they'd be all in new dark grey and lime green
00:44
< afny>
but no gots.
00:44
<+Tetrajak>
make it in dark bley, a little black, some dark brown, maybe some tan on the joints, and some bronze if you can get it. THEN it will look junkyard
00:44
< afny>
you keep saying these things, but I don't think you hear me when I say I have no bricks
00:44
< afny>
those are literally the last of my headlights in those guys
00:45
< Mantisking>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/35895569@N05/5694684188/in/photostream
00:45
< afny>
yeah, urban camo
00:45
< afny>
pretty much how i'd approach it too
00:45
< afny>
it is hard
00:46
< afny>
I like the feet, it reminds me of a gecko
00:47
< afny>
okay, i'm starting to think 2x9 plates don't exist
00:47
< afny>
but I KNOW they do
00:47
< Mantisking>
2x9?
00:47
<+Tetrajak>
afny: that's what bricklink is all about
00:48
< afny>
it's not what being broke is about, though
00:48
< Mantisking>
As far as I know, plates only come in even numbers, aside from 2x3.
00:48
< afny>
hm
00:48
< afny>
okay, I THINK I used one
00:48
< afny>
but maybe I've gone through this before and just did something else
00:48
< afny>
I'll check.
00:49
< afny>
ah, okay
00:49
< afny>
yes, I'm just an idiot
00:49
< afny>
I used two 4x2s and a 1x2.
00:51
< Mantisking>
{* snerk *}
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< afny>
I don't know why I didn't check ten minutes ago
00:52
< randolph_>
Sheesh TJ, did I or my abacus kill your dog or something?
00:52
< afny>
the thing is sitting right there.
00:53
<+Tetrajak>
randolph: sorry randolph :S
00:53
<+Tetrajak>
randolph: I have nothing against you
00:53
< randolph_>
I mean, I wasn't even rules-lawyering; Axhead pulled out an imaginary rule because of some sketchy wording in the preview, that Mantis confirmed was wrong
00:54
< randolph_>
I was the only one to stop that train before it got way out of hand
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< randolph_>
I was trying to do everyone a favor and not propogate yet another LOS situation
00:54
< Mantisking>
I skimmed the whole thing until the last post I replied to.
00:54
< afny>
randolph: why are you saying randolph when you address randolph randolph
00:54
< CaGeRit>
Whats this about someone else picking up on LOS?
00:54
< randolph_>
oh god
00:55
< afny>
(malkovich malkovich)
00:55
< randolph_>
die CGR
00:55
< CaGeRit>
??
00:55
< randolph_>
@ afny: You were wondering why we were even discussing it - I DON'T KNOW
00:55
<+Tetrajak>
afny man, I totally forgot about the way IRC picks up on names
00:55
< CaGeRit>
Getting rope Brb.
00:55
< randolph_>
Axhead was using an inferred rule of "you can't deploy defender frames behind cover next to attacker frames using that cover"
00:56
<+Tetrajak>
ooooooooh, I get it now
00:56
< randolph_>
Because since HtH ignores cover -> therefore it must not be cover... and I was pretty sure that's not true
00:56
< CaGeRit>
But isn't cover directional?
00:56
< CaGeRit>
As well.
00:56
< randolph_>
Yes.
00:56
< randolph_>
You have to be in cover from ALL attackers
00:56
< randolph_>
So Axhead thought "since you don't get [the benefit of] cover against HtH, Defenders can't deploy there
00:56
<+Tetrajak>
but not from HtH, since it's only the ATTACK that ignores cover, not the LOS
00:57
< randolph_>
right
00:57
< Mantisking>
Man, this has gone totally peach shaped.
00:57
< CaGeRit>
So, if I were to stand my frame next to your frame who is tanding next to a wall, but stand him in a way that doesn't draw line through the wall then its fine?
00:57
< randolph_>
Mantis: I know!
00:57
< Mantisking>
CGR, what?
00:57
<+Tetrajak>
CGR: yes, it's fine
00:57
< CaGeRit>
@tetrajak but isn;t there no LOS?
00:57
< randolph_>
MK: I was correct from my interpretation from the beginning
00:57
<+Tetrajak>
CGR; that's the point of why the placement is ok
00:57
< randolph_>
But there were snippets of preview pdf that suggested Axhead's rule
00:57
< CaGeRit>
Then why are we arguing?
00:58
< randolph_>
We're not
00:58
< Mantisking>
I don't know!
00:58
< randolph_>
I was arguing with Axhead
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<+Tetrajak>
cos I lol'd at Vincent getting angry at randolph
00:58
< randolph_>
It's not my fault!
00:58
< randolph_>
Vincent didn't read the walls of text either
00:58
< randolph_>
I mean, I don't blame him, but jesus, it's not my fault this time!
00:58
< CaGeRit>
So I was told to die by way of greeting?
00:58
< randolph_>
CGR: No, because you brought up LOS ;P
00:58
< Mantisking>
I blame my busy day at work.
00:58
<+Tetrajak>
perhaps you have bad timing in debates, randolph?
00:59
< randolph_>
TJ: Since I was the only one to argue with Axhead, probably.
00:59
< CaGeRit>
I'm seeing double.
00:59
< CaGeRit>
Two randolphs.
00:59
< Mantisking>
If I had the chance to surf the Hangar a bit more today maybe I could have shut it down.
00:59
< randolph_>
Maybe I should've just said my first piece, and then let V answer the first time
00:59
< randolph_>
CGR: There are, in fact, two of me.
00:59
< randolph_>
One is an op, the other is a mindclone
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<+Tetrajak>
O_o
01:00
<+Tetrajak>
clones!
01:00
< randolph_>
What a twist <shymalan>
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< CaGeRit>
Its almost like he is an ijad host.
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< Mantisking>
Damn! Where did the last hour go?
01:05
< CaGeRit>
It didn't got anywhere. Time is merly a human construct to allow for the organization of events in a chronological order.
01:05
<+Tetrajak>
Time is debatable. Theoretical physicists can't seem to agree
01:05
< randolph_>
Ah, you ascribe to the constant conjunction view of causality, eh, CGR?
01:06
< randolph_>
er *subscribe
01:06
< CaGeRit>
Pretty mcuh. Or as we truckers call it, fancy shit which doesn't really mean anything.
01:07
< randolph_>
bbiab
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< CaGeRit>
Or, now that I think of it, as you fancy folks would put it. I subscribe to constant conjunction inso as far as it doesn't interfer with my inner pragmatism.
01:12
< afny>
seems like that's a little deeper than your initial assessment
01:12
< afny>
or maybe truckers are just zen as balls
01:13
< afny>
or perhaps you are just a zen trucker yourself.
01:13
< CaGeRit>
You spend 11 hours a day alone in a small box. Philosophical ponderance keeps me sane.
01:14
< CaGeRit>
Seriously though, if you just like to sit and think its a great job.
01:14
< afny>
I used to sort of romanticize trucking to be honest
01:14
< afny>
I guess I still sort of do, but that fantasy definitely took a blow when I learned about methamphetamine addiction
01:14
< CaGeRit>
It isn't all its cracked up to be, but I like it.
01:14
< CaGeRit>
Not all truckers are on drugs.
01:14
< CaGeRit>
I'm not.
01:15
< afny>
no, but I feel like I would be if i was a trucker
01:15
< afny>
is what I'm saying
01:15
< CaGeRit>
Heh, half of the guys I work with don't drink because "It would be too easy to become an alchoholic"
01:15
< CaGeRit>
It is a stressful job at times.
01:15
< afny>
I didn't think you like, signed up and then you got a cab and a bottle of adderall
01:16
< CaGeRit>
Substance abuse is there.
01:16
<@McMartin>
It's all over, it's just scarier when it's behind forty tons of steel.
01:16
< afny>
well it's everywhere, to be frank
01:16
< afny>
yeah
01:17
< CaGeRit>
Tell me about it I used to be in culunary, dropped out after hearing the horror stories (and there was some other stuff too, but thats for a different time)
01:17
<@McMartin>
Heh, I knew a guy who used to run a kitchen.
01:18
<@McMartin>
Traded that job for "spend 9 hours a day baking during graveyard shift", and found that he didn't know what to do with himself now that the stress was gone.
01:18
< CaGeRit>
I'm pretty lucky actualy, I drive for a good company, my boss was a driver who worked himself into his position and understands a lot more about the industry than other dispatchers and me and my co-workers are some of the best paid in the industry as far as local dry bulk drivers go.
01:19
<@McMartin>
It's amazing how much having a good boss helps
01:19
< CaGeRit>
Truly
01:30
< Mantisking>
Okay, I'm off to do some chores and watch Cowboy Bebop.
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01:32
<@randolph>
yikes
01:33
< CaGeRit>
hmm?
01:33
< afny>
sounds like a good evening
01:38
<@randolph>
just got all heavy in here
01:40
< afny>
building a drop pod
01:40
< CaGeRit>
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=cat&um=1&hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&sa=N&rls=en &biw=1436&bih=790&tbm=isch&tbnid=WH7PYbBKXG16OM:&imgrefurl=http://true-wildlife. blogspot.com/2011/02/cat.html&docid=HoHibhFIThuivM&imgurl=http://2.bp.blogspot.c om/-WtdFq_e6eKo/TV5W5s-hS-I/AAAAAAAAAvM/gmCUYOx3bX8/s1600/Animals_Cats_Small_cat _005241_.jpg&w=1152&h=864&ei=CAXpT7G6FfSl2AWY1aS8DQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=507&sig=1 00827561483286238714&page=1&tbnh=131&tbnw=179&start=0&n
01:40
< CaGeRit>
ed=1t:429,r:3,s:0,i:149&tx=78&ty=36
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< CaGeRit>
@randolf does that help?
01:41
<@randolph>
hehe
01:42
< CaGeRit>
Well, I'm up at 4 tomarrow so I'll be taking my leave, gnight.
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01:51
< afny>
So for my demo skirmish, on stations
01:52
< afny>
instead of doing flags or complicated tiling signifiers, I'm just going to do a little point on each station
01:52
< afny>
where the controlling team places a 1x1 to signify their control
01:52
< afny>
I'm thinking trans red round plate for primary attackers, trans blue round plate for 2nd attacker, and trans green tile for defenders
01:53
< afny>
do you guys think that's enough of a signifier?
01:53
< afny>
I don't have six flags of three colors
01:54
<@randolph>
I think it's enough, depending on your station
01:54
<@randolph>
Hell, stations are just spots on the ground that have no physical location, technically
01:55
<@randolph>
they could be as simple as a stud of the appropriate color on a piece of ground
01:55
< afny>
I'm making mine pretty large, or at least one large one per company
01:55
<@randolph>
btw, can you link me that company shot again? the one with the leg controversy?
01:55
< afny>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7443410030/
01:56
< afny>
building a station for them right now
01:56
<@randolph>
They look fine
01:56
< afny>
Ced SORT of had a point here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyanosmoros/7440466792/in/photostream/
01:56
< afny>
but I think they look okay now
01:57
<@randolph>
The taps look significantly better
01:57
<@randolph>
Ced likes 'em meaty. You like them thin.
01:58
< afny>
yeah, I originally intended to use taps, but then I didn't have enough
01:58
< afny>
but I've since swapped pink taps into the Cybele's feet, so I had six after that
01:58
<@randolph>
heh
01:58
<@randolph>
Ced does have a point about realism and the implication of scale on material stress
01:59
<@randolph>
But like, in the end, it's whether it looks awesome on the table
01:59
< afny>
I do care about realism to some extent, but I think I corrected SOME of that with the greebling
01:59
<@randolph>
Well, you've heard of cheating shots right?
01:59
< afny>
not really
02:00
<@randolph>
comics/animation where they move a relevant feature slightly (to majorly) off anatomical correctness in order to make it look better/get it in the frame
02:00
<@randolph>
Some of it happens in CG (I think there was a bit in Two Towers, IIRC)
02:00
< afny>
well you don't really have that luxury in lego
02:00
< afny>
I mean, not unless you plan on ONLY displaying it through pictures
02:01
<@randolph>
No, but my point is: it's an established practice that cool trumps practical in entertainment
02:01
<@randolph>
tradition, even
02:01
< afny>
yeah, I mean, I certainly subscribe to the rule of cool
02:01
< afny>
but this setting is hard sci-fi, so I don't want to break it TOO hard
02:03
< afny>
okay, out of ideas for stations
02:03
<@randolph>
Ok, well, you're talking to the wrong person, then :P
02:03
< afny>
time to make terrain
02:03
<@randolph>
I practically wear mad scientist gear when I create
02:05
< afny>
goin out for a bit
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<+FerrelFerret>
o/
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< afny>
hey
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<+FerrelFerret>
What is everyone up to?
02:40
< afny>
I'm goin' back to building stations and terrain
02:40
< afny>
gonna try to get something simple done for some elevated bits
02:41
<+FerrelFerret>
I bought some stuff to build stations
02:42
<+Tetrajak>
workin'
02:42
<+Tetrajak>
man, I really need to construct some terrain
02:42
<+Tetrajak>
well, some more practical terrain
02:43
< afny>
yeah, i'm trying to go for super practical
02:43
< afny>
some bits that are conveniently six pieces
02:43
< afny>
some that are less, but tall
02:45
<+FerrelFerret>
Yeah, I'm looking for single unit, 5x5 plate, or smaller at the base.
02:47
< afny>
I've got a few crates and rock things that are like
02:47
< afny>
6 bricks each and can easily be grouped in twos or threes
02:47
< afny>
so they take two or three hits
02:49
<+Tetrajak>
man, I still really want to make a multi-vertical-level map
02:49
<+Tetrajak>
I'm not sure how I'd do it so you could easily shoot holes in the floor, but I've got some ideas
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02:50
< afny>
yeah, that's such a cool concept
02:50
< afny>
I'm sure it could be done, especially if they players agreed not to shoot certain parts of the structure
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02:51
<@randolph>
http://www.brickbuildr.com/view/pab/side/off/76/
02:51
<@randolph>
^ updated
02:59
< afny>
hey, so
02:59
< afny>
if I've got a frame
02:59
< afny>
and it's in cover behind two rocks
02:59
< afny>
like, say, two rocks that are independent of each other, and each of them is made out of four bricks
03:00
< afny>
and an attacker targets me and his attack does two damage to cover
03:00
< afny>
do I count myself as in cover behind ONE of the rocks, and remove it
03:00
< afny>
or behind BOTH of the rocks, and remove one and do damage to the other?
03:04
<@randolph>
The defender picks which piece of contiguous cover he is currently using for that attack
03:04
<@randolph>
The attacker picks which bricks of damaged cover he is allotted by his roll too destroy from THAT piece of cover, only.
03:04
<@randolph>
AFAIK, anyway.
03:04
<@randolph>
Actually heh.
03:05
<@randolph>
It's probably KISS
03:05
<@randolph>
Anytime a 4 comes up "are you behind any cover still?"
03:05
<@randolph>
if yes, pick which one, he starts chewing through it
03:05
<@randolph>
4 or 5
03:05
< afny>
that's the thing, it's like
03:05
< afny>
okay, say a BUNCH of fours come up
03:05
< afny>
say three fours
03:05
< afny>
and the first four would chew through 6 bricks of cover
03:05
<@randolph>
I think for EACH four, he picks a thing and chews through it
03:06
< afny>
but what if it's four trees that are single bricks
03:06
< afny>
one tree four each four
03:06
< afny>
or four trees on the first blow?
03:06
<@randolph>
That's one for Vincent / Josh / MK sorry :x
03:06
<@randolph>
afk groceries
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04:17
< afny>
I have no idea when to stop building cover
04:17
<@randolph>
Hee
04:18
<@randolph>
When light is brick is gone, when tile is gone, until the last stud.
04:18
<@randolph>
er
04:18
< afny>
that would take me a LOOONG time
04:18
< afny>
admittedly it would very quickly descend into Dali landscapes
04:18
<@randolph>
That would be awesome
04:18 * afny doesn't do drugs
04:18 * afny AM DRUGS
04:20
<@randolph>
My BL order came in
04:21
<@randolph>
44 hinges
04:21
<@randolph>
50 tiles
04:21
< afny>
build zizymechs all day
04:21
<@randolph>
I think I'll end up using 1/4 of them in one xform, actually
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04:22
<@randolph>
I'm super-stoked to share it, but I don't want to post any pics til at least the legs stop looking dorky
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04:30
< afny>
well I've used almost all of my brown, tan, and green making organic cover
04:30
< afny>
the rest will have to be inorganic
04:30
< afny>
well, I suppose I can do old grey rocks
04:33
<@randolph>
concrete bunker walls?
04:38
< afny>
I dunno
04:38
< afny>
I'm trying to make everything seem pretty coherent
04:38
< afny>
and I've already got a lot of inorganic cover
05:00
< Ced|Sleep>
I RISE.
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05:04
<@randolph>
Hey ced
05:04
<@Ced23Ric>
Gonna get ready for work, BRB.
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05:05
< Mantisking>
Hello?
05:08
< afny>
hey
05:08
< afny>
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/84803929/Demo%20Terrain.JPG
05:09
< Mantisking>
I can't click on it due to my pop-up blocker.
05:09
< afny>
badness
05:10
< Mantisking>
What is it?
05:10
< afny>
just some terrain
05:10
< Mantisking>
that could be anything. :-)
05:10
< afny>
mostly stuff I copied from Soren (surprise surprise)
05:11
< afny>
lots of 1x2 tan lumber bricks done up like rock pillars
05:11
< afny>
some trees, some basalt
05:11
< afny>
a giant palm tree for no reason
05:11
< Mantisking>
Sounds cool.
05:11
< afny>
I think it's somewhere around half of what I'll need for a 3way skirmish
05:11
< afny>
but I'm not sure
05:11
< Mantisking>
I built a mech for the 3T challenge.
05:11
< afny>
did you post it?
05:12
< Mantisking>
Nope. It's a little dark here for photos.
05:12
< afny>
what's it's thing
05:14
<@Ced23Ric>
Kev.
05:14
< afny>
?
05:14
<@Ced23Ric>
That cover is not very durable.
05:14
< afny>
nope
05:14
< Mantisking>
Dude, does it really matter?
05:15
<@Ced23Ric>
Well, let me reword it.
05:15
<@Ced23Ric>
I think there is almost no cover to speak off.
05:15
<@Ced23Ric>
And, yes, yes it does.
05:15
< afny>
each one of those things, alone
05:15
< afny>
is at least one damage of cover
05:15
< afny>
and grouped together, more
05:15
< afny>
like, they aren't necessarily intended to be alone
05:15
< afny>
you would hide behind all three of those crates, for example, or a group of pillars
05:15
<@Ced23Ric>
Cover is a) an integral part of the game. And b), it's even explicitely mentioned in the rules.
05:16
< afny>
cover doesn't have to be a contiguous piece of building to be durable
05:16
< afny>
it just has to be between you and your attacker
05:16
<@Ced23Ric>
Mhmm, I actually take my statement back by a few magnitudes.
05:16
< Mantisking>
Dude, there was a whole topic about it on the Hangar. It doesn't all have to be cover.
05:17
< afny>
pretty much everything here is intended to be cover, except for the stations I suppose
05:17
<@Ced23Ric>
It's just not a lot of cover.
05:17
< afny>
the bigger bits are 2-3 hits
05:17
< afny>
the smaller bits are 1
05:17
<@Ced23Ric>
And: "1 dmg of cover" might aswell be no cover the way damage to cover is resolved.
05:17
< afny>
I figure I need about twice this much cover for a 3 way skirmish
05:17
< afny>
again, I don't plan on placing to many bits of 1 damage cover by themselves
05:18
< afny>
obviously it isn't smart to hide behind a lone bush in the middle of a field
05:18
<@Ced23Ric>
Mhmm, mhmm.
05:18
<@Ced23Ric>
Heh. :D
05:19
< afny>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltmMJntSfQI
05:19
< Mantisking>
So, Afny, the mech is basically a cross between my Block Chest and SpAAT mechs.
05:19
< afny>
you've definitely got a leg up on pretty much everyone else in that contest
05:20
< Mantisking>
There's still more in my Flickr stream.
05:20
< Mantisking>
Although I was called smug for using them.
05:21
< Mantisking>
And, Ced, it's only been six years of Mechaton -- not a decade.
05:21
< afny>
Well it isn't like you can be disqualified from a challenge with no prizes
05:21
<@Ced23Ric>
Manner of speech.
05:21
< Mantisking>
:-)
05:21 mode/#mf0 [+vv afny Mantisking] by Ced23Ric
05:22
<+Mantisking>
??
05:22
<@Ced23Ric>
I gave you a plussie.
05:22
<+Mantisking>
Okey-dokey.
05:23
<+Mantisking>
Dear god. This guy has a room full of mecha models. http://dalong.net/
05:25
<@Ced23Ric>
On my way to work.-
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05:26
<+afny>
I'm headed to bed I think
05:26
<+afny>
night all
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06:22
<@Ced23Ric>
Jo.
06:22
<@Soren>
yo.
06:23
<@Ced23Ric>
Whazzup, sexybear?
06:24
<@Soren>
Not much. Waiting for the pet movers to give me some pussy.
06:26
<@Soren>
Oh come on. Even randy's puns don't kill the chat that bad.
06:30
<@Ced23Ric>
Sorry. Had a call.
06:30
<@Soren>
nah, it's cool.
06:30
<@Ced23Ric>
"HOW CAN I COPY A HEADLINE IN EXCEL." - "Did you try Ctrl - C for copy?" - "WHAT HEATHEN MAGIC IS THIS?!"
06:31
<@Ced23Ric>
And: I approve of your feline yearnings.
06:31
<@Ced23Ric>
May your cat live long and prosper.
06:31
<@Soren>
well, she's gold-plated now. It's not a cheap process.
06:34
<@Ced23Ric>
... I assume you are implying moving a cat from the Rockies to KL is expensive as balls.
06:34
<@Soren>
yes
06:35
<@Ced23Ric>
What did that run ya?
06:35
<@Soren>
tallying up, close to $750.
06:36
<@Ced23Ric>
You really like that cat.
06:36
<@Soren>
we do.
06:36
<@Ced23Ric>
Well, I can't really complain, though.
06:37
<@Soren>
probably more, I think I'm missing something in there.
06:37
<@Ced23Ric>
Lady Lillian, our nigh 15 years old living room tiger, had two vertebraes pop.
06:37
<@Ced23Ric>
And that shit ain't cheap either.
06:37
<@Soren>
no.
06:38
<@Ced23Ric>
And Paula, the drooly cat, which was abandoned by her previous owners/ex-neighbors, has a rare disease with her digestive system that makes her teeth rot and hinders her from gaining weight and keeping the food down.
06:38
<@Ced23Ric>
Those surgery bills and medication don't come for free, either.
06:38
<@Ced23Ric>
But, hey.
06:38
<@Ced23Ric>
You are annoyed when you foot the bill.
06:38
<@Ced23Ric>
But there's just nothing like watching TV with a furry ball of purrs in your lap.
06:39
<@Soren>
yeah
06:39
<@Ced23Ric>
Or going to bed and the cat(s) already waiting for you, to curl up and sleep next to you.
06:39
<@Soren>
well, and she's the sweetest little cat.
06:39
<@Soren>
crazy as snakeshit, but very sweet.
06:39
<@Ced23Ric>
I was gone for 5 years, right? Lilly immediately recognized me again and slept next to me every night in the guest room.
06:40
<@Ced23Ric>
Can't argue against that.
06:40
<@Soren>
our cat will burrow under the covers with you when it's cold. Pretty adorable.
06:40
<@Ced23Ric>
And that certainly is more than "I SEEK WARMTH. PET ME."
06:40
<@Ced23Ric>
Because ... with her fucked up back, jumping on the bed is painful for her. And she doesn't even want to be pet(ted? sp?).
06:40
<@Soren>
God help us if she ever figures out how cute she is.
06:41
<@Ced23Ric>
I know.
06:41
<@Soren>
aww.
06:41
<@Ced23Ric>
When she uses her power for evil. D:
06:41
<@Ced23Ric>
Well, she hops up, claws into the sheet and PULLS herself because her hindlegs don't provide enough thrust.
06:41
<@Ced23Ric>
And she yelps, but then curls up.
06:41
<@Soren>
She's pretty brazen. She likes to flop her front half up on your chest and then glare down at you.
06:41
<@Soren>
"You know the drill. Pet me."
06:41
<@Ced23Ric>
So, I won't ever push that cat away.
06:42
<@Soren>
that's sad, but also heartwarming.
06:42
<@Ced23Ric>
Yeah. She's old, man. She's old.
06:42
<@Ced23Ric>
Got her with like 6 weeks on the clock.
06:42
<@Ced23Ric>
Now that furrball is nigh 15 years old.
06:42
<@Ced23Ric>
We moved in summer '98, and got her in fall.
06:44
<@Ced23Ric>
Oh my.
06:44
<@Ced23Ric>
Call comes in.
06:45
<@Ced23Ric>
"Rasch, system administration, how may I help you?" - "Morning, Soandso, is Mr. Thisnthat there?" - "Nah, user help desk starts at 8." - "Oh, okay. I'll try around 9 then." - " ... they start at 8." - "Oh! Okay!"
06:47
<@Soren>
sometimes I think human communication happens along entirely nonverbal vectors.
06:48
<@randolph>
Nah, people just use that for CRC~
06:48
<@randolph>
(hey Soren, Ced)
06:48
<@Ced23Ric>
Here's my newest favourite call.
06:49
<@Ced23Ric>
"We're asking whether you could check the laptop/projector set up in room XYZ." - "We set that up 30 minutes before the meeting." - "Are you sure?" - " ... yes."
06:50
<@Ced23Ric>
The people are apparently assuming that we open the doors, throw the equip on the closest table and run away as fast as possible.
06:52
<@Soren>
"they gave me a dead squirrel and a binder with 'LAPTOP' written on it. What am I supposed to do?"
06:53
<@Ced23Ric>
Yeah.
06:53
<@Ced23Ric>
I had to explain to another lady yesterday that we won't show up 5 mins prior to a meeting to run a check.
06:53
<@Ced23Ric>
a.) We wouldn't have enough time to react to faults anyway.
06:53
<@Ced23Ric>
b.) we set up 30 mins prior and run a check, and don't leave before all works.
06:53
<@Ced23Ric>
And she was flabbergasted.
06:53
<@Ced23Ric>
"REALLY?!"
06:54
<@Ced23Ric>
"Yes, Ma'am, that is part of our standing method of operation. No setup is deemed done until working."
06:54
<@Ced23Ric>
"WOW."
06:54
<@Ced23Ric>
I wished for a third hand to hold the telephone while I was dualfacepalming.
07:12
<@Soren>
next time, just give them the dead squirrel.
07:14
<@Ced23Ric>
I wish I had some. Sigh.
07:14
<@Ced23Ric>
The state secretary just called.
07:15
<@Ced23Ric>
"Everytime I want to print, it asks me to save a file. Why?" - " *logs on* *looks* Mhmm. Maybe ... yeah. That's it. You are using the virtual TIF printer." - "What?" - "No worries, Sir. *deletes printer*"
07:17
<@Soren>
http://www.astronautix.com/fam/gunnched.htm I want to see where you will take this piece of information.
07:18
<@Soren>
"This was to prove the feasibility of using large guns for launch of scientific and military payloads on sub-orbital and orbital trajectories. "
07:20
<@Ced23Ric>
The ability of a supergun to launch low cost satellites is usually the sole attribute discussed when gun-launched satellites are compared to those orbited by conventional launchers. However the supergun's real potential is not only low cost, but also the ability to launch a vast numbers of satellites each year in all kinds of weather. Interest in superguns as weapons of war and as space launchers
07:20
<@Ced23Ric>
continues in China and Iraq.
07:20
<@Ced23Ric>
I don't even.
07:20
<@Ced23Ric>
"SHOOT THE MOON." - "Err ..." - "JUST DO IT."
07:21
<@Soren>
This also seems like the kind of thing a cash-strapped colony would use to shoot down satellites.
07:23
<@Ced23Ric>
Or ... launch them.
07:24
<@Soren>
well, yeah. If you can do one you're most of the way to doing the other.
07:27
<@randolph>
WangTechwill find a way to strap one to a frame.
07:27
<@randolph>
"It's a split artillery/movement system"
07:28
<@Soren>
we never doubted you.
07:28
<@randolph>
I don't want to be anywhere near the test site.
07:29
<@Soren>
that seems basically sane
07:38
<@Ced23Ric>
I love my job.
07:38
<@Ced23Ric>
I get to do all the cool stuff.
07:38
<@Ced23Ric>
And delegate all the ass stuff.
07:39
<@Ced23Ric>
"HELLO." - "Yes, system administration?" - "WE NEED MICROPHONES." - "Cool. Call House Tech." - "OH. NOT YOU." - "No, not me." - "OKAY."
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07:40
<@Ced23Ric>
Heya TJ. :)
07:48
<+Tetrajak>
heya Ced
07:49
<@randolph>
Hey TJ
07:50
<+Tetrajak>
heya Randolph
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07:56
<+Tetrajak>
heya CB
07:57
< Carbonbass>
Hey
07:58
<+Tetrajak>
So, question for all those who are here and active; how much area of a concrete floor, in, say, a multi-level mech construction area, could a DF range weapon destroy? (measured in lego studs)
08:00
< Carbonbass>
Herm...
08:01
<+Tetrajak>
I ask because I wish to design modular terrain that is easy to destroy, for such a thing as a multi-vertical-level battlefield
08:05
< Carbonbass>
I would say at least 4x4 or 4x6
08:05
< Carbonbass>
lol, shoot the floor out from under another frame. Dirty move.
08:06
<+Tetrajak>
exactly, or drop the ceiling onto another frame
08:07
< Carbonbass>
damn that sounds cool. I might have to work on something like that.
08:07
<+Tetrajak>
hmm, I guess I should really be thinking about it in terms of balance
08:07
<+Tetrajak>
rather than reality of weapons
08:07
< Carbonbass>
Yeah
08:08
<@Ced23Ric>
Well.
08:08
<+Tetrajak>
so I should probably scope it such that a single shot against cover could almost guarantee to destroy the floor under a frame, but shots that happen to hit cover while aiming at a frame don't necessarily destroy the floor, unless there are high numbers involved
08:08
<@Ced23Ric>
If the floor is meant to carry a 'frame, it will be thick.
08:08
<@Ced23Ric>
You have 2 tons of weight on a narrow surface.
08:08
<@Ced23Ric>
It ain't a car.
08:08
<+Tetrajak>
anywho, I'm off to dinner
08:08
<+Tetrajak>
ttyl everyone
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08:08
<@Ced23Ric>
SURE,
08:09
<@Ced23Ric>
IGNORE MY INSIGHTS.
08:09
<@Ced23Ric>
DICK.
08:09
< Carbonbass>
OFF WITH HIS HEAD!
08:10
<@Ced23Ric>
EXACTLY.
08:11
<@Ced23Ric>
Heh.
08:11
<@Ced23Ric>
HR just sent an email to our group.
08:11
<@Ced23Ric>
"Just a reminder, we need your hours for this month."
08:11
<@Ced23Ric>
So I planned this month AND next month.
08:11
<@Ced23Ric>
So boss.
08:12
<@Ced23Ric>
Time to sip coffee, look into the vague distance with shades on and listen to Feint in the background.
08:12
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPPRpa1iU8g&feature=autoplay&list=PL828E71B2B46F0 1A7&playnext=8
08:14
< Carbonbass>
lol
08:16
< Carbonbass>
Wow, having a hell of a time finding a BL store with a good stock of grey Travis bricks.
08:18
< Carbonbass>
Found a couple stores that each have 50 or so, but damn everyone else has like 2-10 and asking nearly a whole dollar for each of them.
08:24
<@randolph>
CB
08:24
<@randolph>
When I started MFZ, travis bricks were $0.10-15/ea
08:25
<@randolph>
When I checked last month, most were just under PAB :p
08:25
< Carbonbass>
*facepalm* searched Grey, not bluish gray
08:25
<@randolph>
I'm wondering how they're making profit at those prices, anyway. There's gotta be some sets out there they're cannibalizing for tbricks
08:27
<@Ced23Ric>
Randy: We spoke about this. :D
08:27
<@randolph>
We did?
08:27
<@Ced23Ric>
Chinese mass-manufacturing!
08:27
<@randolph>
oh
08:27
<@randolph>
right
08:27
<@Ced23Ric>
;)
08:28
<@randolph>
Gray market failed to stick to my brain for some reason
08:28
<@Ced23Ric>
Heh.
08:28
<@Ced23Ric>
"grey market". Nice.
08:28
<@Ced23Ric>
I keep forgetting that exists.
08:28
<@randolph>
Me too~
08:28
<@Ced23Ric>
The concept is hilariously audacious.
08:28
<@Ced23Ric>
"WE'RE ILLEGAL. AND RIGHT IN THE OPEN. HAH."
08:29
<@randolph>
Lots of stuff stops being illegal as soon as you enter China
08:29
<@randolph>
(and plenty more becomes illegal)
08:29
<@Ced23Ric>
I was gonna say.
08:30
<@Ced23Ric>
China is pretty hilarious that way.
08:30
<@randolph>
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT GLORIOUS FREE REPUBLIC OF FREEDOMS DENIES NOTHING
08:30
< Carbonbass>
So I searched for light *bluish* grey this time. Much better results.
08:30
<@randolph>
WHY ARE YOU GOOGLING DEMOCRACY
08:30
<@Ced23Ric>
CB: There is only one problem with that problem.
08:30
<@Ced23Ric>
Err.
08:30
<@Ced23Ric>
Search.
08:30
<@Ced23Ric>
With that search.
08:30
<@Ced23Ric>
You are looking for light bley.
08:30
< Carbonbass>
:P
08:30
<@Ced23Ric>
:P
08:31
<@randolph>
Did you want light bluish gray or dark bluish gray?
08:31
<@Ced23Ric>
He should want dark bley.
08:32
< Carbonbass>
Trying to keep base frame light bluish grey, then all the extra bits and armor dark blueish gray
08:33
< Carbonbass>
Dark bluish would work just as well
08:33
<@randolph>
Really workin' that brushed/machined metal look, eh?
08:35
<@Ced23Ric>
BRB, walking off my 2.5h-in-sleepyness.
08:36
< Carbonbass>
It looks good for this frame, I'll add a splash of dark red to them eventually
08:36
<@randolph>
I'm working on recalcitrant transforming legs
08:37
< Carbonbass>
mmmmhhhmmm transforming legs
08:37
<@randolph>
flight form looks good now, let's try this...
08:40
<@randolph>
Augh spindly as hell
08:43
< Carbonbass>
Hmmm. I wonder if I should go all black with the frame, then do tan armor/externals.
08:43
<@randolph>
Do you use LDD/MLCAD at all?
08:44
<@randolph>
If so, you can try it out
08:44
< Carbonbass>
Yeah I'll go recolor the model I made LDD real quick
08:56
< Carbonbass>
Meyh, it looks a bit too Tau like that.
08:56
<@randolph>
nothing wrong with that
08:58
< Carbonbass>
There isn't, just not really the look I want.
09:10
<@Ced23Ric>
Alright.
09:10
<@Ced23Ric>
This is so weird. :D
09:10
<@Ced23Ric>
I am starting to really like this job.
09:10
<@Ced23Ric>
It's like it made an 180 turn.
09:10
<@Ced23Ric>
a? an?`
09:11
<@Ced23Ric>
Vowel with consonant sound?
09:11
<@Ced23Ric>
A one-eighty?
09:13
< Carbonbass>
Hell yeah, this guy is buying my Black Templars. Gonna have more Lego money real soon.
09:16
< Carbonbass>
Herm, I need to go ahead and design some more frames so I can make some OpFor companies for demoing this at the lgs
09:17
<@Ced23Ric>
Can I design them for you? :D
09:17
<@Ced23Ric>
I am running out of feasible projects.
09:18
<@Ced23Ric>
I think 6 companies is already too much.
09:20
< Carbonbass>
If I rebuild my Highlander company that takes care of one, been meaning to do that anyways.
09:22
< Carbonbass>
Well I'm off for tonight, already stayed up way too late as it is
09:23
<@Ced23Ric>
Later, man.
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09:57
<@randolph>
nngh
10:03
<@Ced23Ric>
nnnngh.
10:04
<@randolph>
ok
10:04
<@randolph>
sec taking pics
10:22
<@randolph>
heading to bed folks, nn
10:34
<@Soren>
night
10:34
<@Ced23Ric>
THis is odd.
10:34
<@Ced23Ric>
Somehow, the script that just changed all local admin passwords ...
10:35
<@Ced23Ric>
... stops me from using the local admin.
10:39
<@Soren>
holy SHIT that cat is angry with me.
10:39
<@Soren>
if she had eye lasers there'd be a hole in my head.
10:45
<@Soren>
"I'm starring in a one-cat production of Fuck All Of You, The Musical."
10:46
<@Ced23Ric>
What ... what did you do?
10:46
<@Ced23Ric>
OH.
10:46
<@Ced23Ric>
I REMEMBER.
10:46
<@Ced23Ric>
YOU TRANSLOCATED HER.
10:46
<@Ced23Ric>
THOUSANDS OF MILES.
10:46
<@Ced23Ric>
You need tuna, ASAP.
10:46
<@Soren>
already tuna'd
10:46
<@Soren>
I know how this game is played.
10:47
<@Ced23Ric>
How did the tuna go over?
10:48
<@Soren>
she scarfed it and went back to her hidey hole.
10:48
<@Ced23Ric>
Heh.
10:48
<@Soren>
moreover, she scarfed it while trying to make noises of tiny misery and woe, which was hilarious.
10:48
<@Soren>
mrrfrgl.
10:48
<@Soren>
miawurglh
10:48
<@Ced23Ric>
Aww.
10:48
<@Ced23Ric>
Poor thing.
10:48
<@Soren>
yeah.
10:49
<@Soren>
It's bad.
10:49
<@Ced23Ric>
"I AM SO UNHAPPY. YUM, TUNA. WOE IS ME."
10:49
<@Soren>
She might forgive us in a month. Maybe.
10:49
<@Ced23Ric>
Nah, she'll be fine in a few days. :D
10:49
<@Soren>
Hope so.
10:49
<@Ced23Ric>
I had cats claw my neck open, and curse my entire existence generations to come for moving them.
10:49
<@Ced23Ric>
Three days later, furrface was all purry again.
10:50
<@Ced23Ric>
They have bad tempers, but are quite forgiving. :D
10:50
<@Ced23Ric>
The urge for warmth and pettings rules supreme in the end.
10:50
<@Ced23Ric>
Hey, Soren, what'chu figure a 0245 city looks like?
10:51
<@Ced23Ric>
I somehow think about hover trains or high monorails.
10:51
<@Soren>
Very dense.
10:51
<@Soren>
Efficient.
10:51
<@Ced23Ric>
Maybe ... maybe I build some superstructure from wood.
10:51
<@Ced23Ric>
And coat it in Legos.
10:52
<@Soren>
Singapore meets Manhattan meets West Berlin.
10:52
<@Ced23Ric>
Y'know, get some rough shapes going, with depressions and elevations.
10:52
<@Soren>
mm.
10:52
<@Ced23Ric>
It's not that hard to mount lego plates.
10:52
<@Soren>
no.
10:52
<@Ced23Ric>
Could use halfpins.
10:52
<@Soren>
hard to mount them buildably.
10:53
<@Ced23Ric>
Well, here is my idea.
10:53
<@Ced23Ric>
Find a drill bit the size of a technic pin hole.
10:53
<@Ced23Ric>
Take a 2x10 technic plate as a guide.
10:53
<@Ced23Ric>
And coat the wooden structure with 10x10 plates.
10:53
<@Ced23Ric>
On halfpins squeezed into the holes.
10:54
<@Ced23Ric>
Then it's studs galore.
10:54
<@Ced23Ric>
And I save on bricks internally and even get some cool depressions.
10:54
<@Ced23Ric>
And elevation, obvy.
10:55
<@Ced23Ric>
I gotta check if I can still contact the woodshop I know in Hamburg.
10:55
<@Ced23Ric>
Maybe visit the boss there, and invent a system of snap-in parts.
10:57
<@Soren>
not a bad plan.
10:58
<@Soren>
Anyway, yeah. I would imagine lots of elevated trains, commuter walkways - very Fifth-Element. Crowded, but not dirty, awful, or especially dystopian
11:06
<@Ced23Ric>
Mhmm, mhmm.
11:06
<@Ced23Ric>
Bad place for 'frames to conduct warfare, eh? :D
11:07
<@Soren>
a great place for frames to conduct all sort of horribleness.
11:07
<@Ced23Ric>
I am thinking, evil marauders/bank robbers vs. squeaky clean police 'frames, tearing up the area.
11:07
<@Soren>
From the perspective of people who don't live there, for whom the violence isn't real.
11:08
<@Ced23Ric>
Well, if you went for a coffee only to walk out into a mechanized 4ton hulk stomp by, peppering the cover of a black, spikey machine with bullets ... where cover is the burning bus full of school kids ...
11:08
<@Ced23Ric>
You might go back inside for decaf.
11:08
<@Ced23Ric>
Or a brownie.
11:08
<@Soren>
yeah.
11:10
<@Ced23Ric>
Now I wanna build a diorama.
11:10
<@Ced23Ric>
"HEAT 0245"
11:12
<@Soren>
indeed. And that's a good scenario to start from.
11:12
<@Ced23Ric>
I'll be honest with you.
11:13
<@Ced23Ric>
It would be a mere display piece.
11:13
<@Ced23Ric>
And I won't build anything that's not gonna get played on.
11:13
<@Soren>
that's more than fair.
11:13
<@Ced23Ric>
But as I was laying it out in my head, I got some neat ideas for cover and buildings and such.
11:14
<@Ced23Ric>
New goal: Design a cityscape, one half bombed out/shot to shit, the other still intact.
11:14
<@Ced23Ric>
And then, fight over the city.
11:21
<@Soren>
the pictures should be good.
11:25
<@Ced23Ric>
I need a massive lightbox.
11:25
<@Ced23Ric>
Or ... daylight.
11:26
<@Ced23Ric>
Mhmm.
11:26
<@Ced23Ric>
I think I also nee meeples to go splat.
11:26
<@Ced23Ric>
*need
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11:48
<@Soren>
many, many meeples.
11:59
<@Ceddobear>
Yeah, I am thinking ... what wassat place called? In Hongkong?
11:59
<@Ceddobear>
Somethings of the Heavens?
11:59
<@Soren>
hmm?
11:59
<@Ceddobear>
I can only think of the German name.
11:59
<@Ceddobear>
Random massacre, gov vs. protesters.
12:00
<@Soren>
Tienanmen Square?
12:00
<@Soren>
or are we talking about somewhere actually in HK?
12:00
<@Ceddobear>
Oh ,that.
12:01
<@Soren>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kowloon_Walled_City like this, my favorite historical artifact I'll never get to see.
12:01
<@Ceddobear>
I think.
12:02
<@Ceddobear>
Yww.
12:02
<@Ceddobear>
*A
12:05
<@Ceddobear>
BRB, coffee/smoke/food
12:52
<@Ceddobear>
Back,.
13:58
<@Soren>
There's something extra hot about still getting your fetish mailing list messages in a place where porn is banned and drug smuggling carries the death penalty.
13:59
<@Soren>
Maybe I have a thing for pissing in authority's cornflakes.
14:01
<@Ceddobear>
http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4588110_460s.jpg
14:01
<@Ceddobear>
With this, I shall leave this place.
14:01 * Ceddobear salutes.
14:02
<@Ceddobear>
And: lol.
14:02
<@Ceddobear>
You kinky dawg.
14:02
<@Ceddobear>
Later!
14:02
<@Soren>
later!
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14:09
<@Soren>
hey hey
14:10
<@Soren>
cat's out of quarantine, glaring at me from under the desk with the most hateful of tiny hatefaces.
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14:17
<+MittenNinja>
haha
14:17
<+MittenNinja>
i bet
14:17
<+MittenNinja>
"Why the fuck did you do that to me?"
14:20
<@Soren>
"If I had eye lasers you'd be dead."
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14:22
<+MittenNinja>
She'll(?) get over it eventually
14:28
<+MittenNinja>
fruj
14:29
<@Soren>
she, yeah, and it's better already.
14:30
<+MittenNinja>
sorry
14:30
<+MittenNinja>
the "fruj" was my feline walking on the keyboard
14:35
<@Soren>
np.
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15:07
<@Ced23Ric>
Backsies.
15:07
<@Ced23Ric>
Hey Greg!
15:07
<@Ced23Ric>
Thanks a lot for your massive load of Dark Blue! :D
15:07
<@Ced23Ric>
Your bubble mailer arrived today.
15:19
<+MittenNinja>
NICE
15:19
<+MittenNinja>
no prob man
15:20
<+MittenNinja>
I pretty much gave you all the dark blue I had
15:20
<+MittenNinja>
since i really dont use it
15:20
<@Ced23Ric>
It's such a sweet colour, though.
15:20
<@Ced23Ric>
Dude.
15:20
<@Ced23Ric>
Those wings.
15:21
<@Ced23Ric>
<3
15:21
<+MittenNinja>
It is
15:21
<+MittenNinja>
i might use it at some point down the line
15:21
<+MittenNinja>
but i'd gladly exchange it for moar sand green :D
15:22
<@Ced23Ric>
You, you get a buttload. :D
15:22
<+MittenNinja>
thats good! Cause I need it for more Assault Chubs!
15:23
<@Ced23Ric>
See, I got an idea here.
15:24
<@Ced23Ric>
I trade you some patience for some more sandgreen.
15:24
<@Ced23Ric>
I'm about to send out another order soon.
15:24
<@Ced23Ric>
ANd to keep things fair, I'd like to add some more sandgreen goodness.
15:24
<@Ced23Ric>
Cool with you?
15:27
<+MittenNinja>
cool with me
15:27
<+MittenNinja>
dishes are a hot commodity
15:28
<+MittenNinja>
if you can get those i will be in your debt
15:28
<@Ced23Ric>
I will damn sure try.
15:29
<@Ced23Ric>
Man, I had so many ideas.
15:29
<@Ced23Ric>
I wanna build an entire city block.
15:29
<@Ced23Ric>
All out of destructible cover.
15:30
<@Ced23Ric>
Where arty is nigh useless.
15:30
<@Ced23Ric>
And DF/HtH reigns supreme.
15:31
<+MittenNinja>
:)
15:31
<+MittenNinja>
id love to see (and play) that
15:36
<@Ced23Ric>
I had some thoughts on mutliple levels, too.
15:36
<@Ced23Ric>
Like, a fabrication plant.
15:36
<@Ced23Ric>
Where you can climb the roof.
15:36
<@Ced23Ric>
And shoot through sky lights.
15:37
<@Ced23Ric>
And risk having the ground shot out from underneath you. :D
15:37
<@Ced23Ric>
And maybe even a sewer channel section.
15:37
<+MittenNinja>
Oh man
15:38
<+MittenNinja>
thatd be cool
15:38
<+MittenNinja>
I want to start collecting bricks to make some serious urban terrain
15:38
<+MittenNinja>
Its such an investment
15:39
<@Ced23Ric>
Tell me fucking about it.
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15:45
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.ced23ric.de/stuff/mf0/shotupwall.png
15:45
<@Ced23Ric>
Just an idea.
15:47
<+MittenNinja>
I like
15:50
<@Ced23Ric>
PS: video is uploaded.
15:50
<@Ced23Ric>
I'm just writing down the timeline.
16:00
<+MittenNinja>
Oh nice
16:00
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.mobileframehangar.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1681&p=12278#p12278
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16:41
<+MittenNinja>
I guess if Soren was an MTG card he'd have phasing
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17:09
< afny>
o/
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17:14
<@Ced23Ric>
Hey Ke ... oh.
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17:37
< afny>
bac
17:44
<@Ced23Ric>
CC is my new pT.
17:45
<@Ced23Ric>
But that guy, I could actually visit und hurt, if need be.
17:45
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.mobileframehangar.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1166&p=12292#p12289 <---
17:51
< afny>
Scumbag CC
17:51
< afny>
says "pretty much by definition"
17:51
< afny>
doesn't own a dictionary.
17:53
<@Ced23Ric>
Heh.
17:53
<@Ced23Ric>
Definition = his frame of thought.
17:59
< afny>
the preview pdf was linked on Penny Arcade
17:59
< afny>
it wasn't just for backers
17:59
< afny>
(I know you didn't say that)
18:00
<@Ced23Ric>
Yeah.
18:00
<@Ced23Ric>
Also, I wonder what CC thinks robotic arms do.
18:01
<@Ced23Ric>
At the conveyor line: "This job sucks. Boo. Painting cars all day blows. Fuck this, I'mma paint a penis on the next one."
18:01
< afny>
they contemplate the mysteries of life
18:01
< afny>
they're stoics.
18:01
<@Ced23Ric>
"WHO AM I. WHY AM I."
18:12
< afny>
urk
18:12
< afny>
after lunch I have to dig for bricks
18:12
< afny>
I think I can get away with using black, white, old light grey, and black
18:12
< afny>
as inorganic cover
18:12
< afny>
combined with my little bit of light blue 1x2 brick
18:12
< afny>
Don't know what I'm going to do about elevation, I want at least two little elevated points
18:15
< afny>
if I have enough 2x6 or 2x8 bricks in the same color
18:15
< afny>
I might build pillars of bricks on their side
18:21
< afny>
I think I miscalculated
18:21
< afny>
about the amount of TEA I'd need this morning
18:21
< afny>
made a whole pot, and I'm going to a tea room for lunch
18:21
< afny>
I love tea, but can I REALLY chug two pots in two hours without throwing up
18:44
<@Ced23Ric>
Mhmm.
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18:49
< afny|away>
By god, I'm going to try.
18:53 * Ced23Ric salutes you.
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19:28
<@Ced23Ric>
http://youtu.be/R5MN2D__uH4
19:28
<@Ced23Ric>
Uploaded.
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20:30
<+Tetrajak>
heya people
20:30
<@Ced23Ric>
Heya TJ.
20:30
<@Ced23Ric>
http://youtu.be/R5MN2D__uH4 <-- TEH GAEM VIDJA!
20:30
<+Tetrajak>
oh yay!
20:30
<+Tetrajak>
2 and a half hours O_O
20:31
<@Ced23Ric>
Yeah, we cut 45 mins of footage.
20:31
<+Tetrajak>
it's still really long
20:31
<+Tetrajak>
Is the original recorded resolution greater than that of youtube?
20:32
<@Ced23Ric>
1080p.
20:32
<@Ced23Ric>
Reduced to 720p.
20:32
<@Ced23Ric>
Reduced to failboat.
20:32
<@Ced23Ric>
THe CMOS sensor of the cam sucked because of the lighting.
20:32
<+Tetrajak>
If you find you have several spare hours... or days, you could fast forward it until moves are being made, and then crop to that specific area
20:32
<+Tetrajak>
subtitles with what is being done would be useful to
20:32
<+Tetrajak>
too
20:33
<+Tetrajak>
but I realise that's a heck of a lot of work
20:33
<@Ced23Ric>
There's a timeline in the forum.
20:33
<+Tetrajak>
cool
20:33
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.mobileframehangar.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1681&p=12295#p12278
20:34
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5MN2D__uH4&feature=player_detailpage#t=1349s
20:34
<@Ced23Ric>
Gamestart.
20:34
<+Tetrajak>
I am suddenly foreseeing a lot of tidying up after an mfz game....
20:35
<@Ced23Ric>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPMZcCNXxME&feature=related <--- LOL
20:35
<@Ced23Ric>
I don't even know that guy!
20:36
<+Tetrajak>
what are you loling about in that vid?
20:36
<@Ced23Ric>
It's my 'frame.
20:36
<+Tetrajak>
what, in that vid, are you loling about*
20:36
<+Tetrajak>
oooooh
20:36
<+Tetrajak>
heh
20:36
<@Ced23Ric>
Read the description.
20:36
<+Tetrajak>
yea, I had someone I didn't know make one of my walking tanks
20:37
<@Ced23Ric>
Sweet. :D
20:37
<+Tetrajak>
very :D
20:37
<+Tetrajak>
I don't imagine anyone else is going to go to the trouble of building a Venus, other than me XD
20:38
<+Tetrajak>
by way of related news; ordering the bricks on Friday
20:38
<+Tetrajak>
and I have a sizeable portion of the necessary parts already, as it turns out :D
20:38
<@randolph>
Hey guys
20:39
<+Tetrajak>
I discovered this on Sunday, while rebuilding my harddrive, and spending the waiting time stacking bricks and plates of the same colour and type
20:39
<+Tetrajak>
heya randolph
20:39
<@Ced23Ric>
Randy: I agree with you.
20:39
<@randolph>
I know
20:39
<+Tetrajak>
my lego collection looks like someone with OCD had a field day organising it... which is somewhat true
20:39
<@randolph>
You're the only one who bothered :P
20:39
<@randolph>
I think it's the technical language angle
20:39
<+Tetrajak>
what are you two referring to?
20:39
<@randolph>
A lot of people just "grok" it
20:40
<@randolph>
I did too
20:40
<@randolph>
but I also see how it could be confusing
20:40
<@Ced23Ric>
Well, they need to stop derping when they need to herp.
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20:40
<@Ced23Ric>
There is actually nigh-nothing confusing about it when you take a step back.
20:40
<@randolph>
TJ: That stupid rules qestion
20:40
<+Tetrajak>
oooooh
20:40
< afny>
@TJ, no, but they already went to the trouble of building an Aphrodite :|
20:40
<+Tetrajak>
lol
20:40
<@randolph>
Ced: Right, but it relies on 2nd-order emergence
20:40
<@randolph>
I dunno, that's asking an awful lot of the average player
20:40
<@Ced23Ric>
R: If POV #1 fails, try POV #2.
20:41
<+Tetrajak>
afny: you are correct XD but now the Aphrodite will make it to the No BS, Just ABS blog "The List"
20:41
< afny>
Wow Ced you weren't lying about the house music
20:41
<@Ced23Ric>
No, I was not.
20:41
<@Ced23Ric>
Fatboy Slim, baby.
20:41
<@Ced23Ric>
It's the entire "Dance Harder, Bitch!" album.
20:41
<@Ced23Ric>
Pounding from the sub woofer.
20:42
< afny>
what's the piece of paper for
20:42
<@Ced23Ric>
Well, you CAN'T read it, but ...
20:42
< afny>
i'm skipping around, it was at 23
20:42
<@Ced23Ric>
It reads "smokebreak".
20:42
< afny>
ah
20:42
<@Ced23Ric>
And occurs after every turn.
20:42
<@Ced23Ric>
There is going to be a second paper.
20:42
<@Ced23Ric>
It has the Ini written on it.
20:42
<@Ced23Ric>
You cannot read it either.
20:43
<@Ced23Ric>
We're pro like that.
20:43
< afny>
you need some fat ass markers
20:43
<@Ced23Ric>
We need a better camera is what.
20:43
<@Ced23Ric>
That tiny little HD action cam sucked balls.
20:43
<+Tetrajak>
I'm off to work. ttyl folks
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20:44
<@Ced23Ric>
THANKS FOR STOPPING BY.
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< Carbonbass>
Neyh
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< Carbonbass>
aloha
21:47
< afny>
neyh to you too
21:47
< afny>
.
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22:02
< Carbonbass>
Anybody working on anything cool?
22:04
< afny>
not particular cool, but I'm working on the inorganic cover counterparts to this: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/84803929/Demo%20Terrain.JPG
22:05
< afny>
er...+ly
22:06
< Carbonbass>
That's pretty damn cool actually
22:07
< afny>
inorganic terrain is proving a challenge
22:07
< afny>
I really don't know how MUCH cover I need for a 3 player skirmish
22:08
< afny>
I think those big 1piece rocks are going to have a bunch of black bricks on parts of them to make them elevated terrain
22:08
<@Ced23Ric>
I AM WORKING ON A SECRET PROJECT:
22:08
<@Ced23Ric>
BUT I CANNOT SHOW YOU.
22:08
< Carbonbass>
Super duper secret?
22:08
<@Ced23Ric>
Yes, yes it is.
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22:53
< Carbonbass>
brb gotta go spray-foam a doorframe
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< carbonbass>
Low expanding foam my fat ass.
23:30
<@Ced23Ric>
Heh.
23:30
<@Ced23Ric>
Was it fast?
23:31
< carbonbass>
it really was.
23:32
< carbonbass>
Been watching your battlevid off and on since you posted the youtube vid, I wish I spoke German. Good insight to how the game actually runs though.
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23:42
<@Ced|Bed>
Night!
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23:48
< carbonbass>
sup?
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23:59
< Mantisking>
Hellooooo?
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