| --- Log opened Tue May 08 00:00:29 2012 |
| 01:20 | <~Noah> | Order made, had to fudge on my color choices, but at least I got everything I needed from a single store |
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| 02:32 | <~Noah> | Is there a way to create a link to the webchat that fills in the channel automatically |
| 02:32 | <@McMartin> | Does ZNC have a web mode? |
| 02:33 | <~Noah> | ZNC? |
| 02:34 | <@McMartin> | I'm... not actually fully sure what it is other than "an IRC proxy some people use instead of screen, which is more IRC-y" |
| 02:34 | <@McMartin> | Might be worth a little googling and research for this problem |
| 02:35 | <~Noah> | Oh, hmm |
| 02:35 | <~Noah> | http://webchat.nightstar.net/?channels=mf0 |
| 02:35 | <~Noah> | That works |
| 02:35 | <@McMartin> | Heh |
| 02:35 | <@McMartin> | So it does |
| 02:37 | <@ToxicFrog> | ZNC is basically Screen For IRC; it connects to the server, and then your IRC client connects to it. |
| 02:51 | <~Noah> | Well, post went up on Mobile Frame Hangar for this channel, I emailed Joshua and got his go ahead for the channel |
| 02:54 | <@McMartin> | Sounds like fun. |
| 02:54 | <~Noah> | With any luck, we'll get some newbs to poke at |
| 02:57 | <~Noah> | I have some kind of social anxiety disorder, I get strangely nervous when I do things like this, lol |
| 03:00 | <~Noah> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/4namgfvttgvcfw5/2012-05-03%2003.25.44.jpg |
| 03:00 | <~Noah> | I need to make something with those two bits |
| 03:00 | <~Noah> | Or two things with each one |
| 03:23 | <~Noah> | So I'm making a ruler, and it occurs to me. One unit is 5 studs, h2h is up to one ruler unit, and direct fire range is 2-8 units, and past that is artillery |
| 03:24 | <~Noah> | So, between 1 and 2 units, is a safe zone? |
| 03:49 | <~Noah> | I'm gonna post that to the forum, that sounds ambigously worded as all hell |
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| 03:56 | <~Noah> | Hello MittenNinja |
| 03:56 | < MittenNinja> | Whuddup? |
| 03:56 | <@McMartin> | Noah: Hm. My understanding so far - though I'm still kinda new at this - is that frames are usually built to 6p or 7p - that is, one plate is a foot. |
| 03:56 | < MittenNinja> | yeah 7p is the "official" scale |
| 03:57 | < MittenNinja> | although building at 6p isnt really going to affect anything |
| 03:57 | <@McMartin> | You walked in on a discussion of what scale should be used for distant uses. |
| 03:57 | < MittenNinja> | distance all depends on the size of the table |
| 03:58 | <~Noah> | McMartin: Actually, not a question of scale exactly |
| 03:58 | <@McMartin> | Noah: For the other bit, I believe all distances are integral |
| 03:58 | <~Noah> | the book states that a ruler unit is 5 studs |
| 03:58 | < MittenNinja> | right |
| 03:58 | <~Noah> | MittenNinja: This is my question: http://www.mobileframehangar.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1203 |
| 03:59 | <~Noah> | The beta rules are ambiguous to me about the space between 1 and 2 units |
| 03:59 | < MittenNinja> | Im pretty sure thats intentional. I seem to remember seeing something about it elsewhere |
| 03:59 | < MittenNinja> | I could be wrong though |
| 04:00 | <~Noah> | I did a search on ruler, and didn't find much |
| 04:00 | <~Noah> | Might be mentioned offhandedly some other way |
| 04:01 | <@McMartin> | Having just gotten off work I can now actually read this |
| 04:05 | <~Noah> | Suspicous lack of rules for vehicles too, hehe |
| 04:05 | <~Noah> | Unless it's a peach truck, then you're fighting over it apparently |
| 04:10 | <~Noah> | Oh man! That totally reminds me, I was gonna order a bunch of dark orange round 1x1 bricks and some green 1x1 plates to make giant peaches |
| 04:11 | <@McMartin> | Trucks can be stations, they can be full of ammo as readily as peaches |
| 04:11 | <@McMartin> | Given the kits I have, at least one of my stations will end up being the Weenie Roast station |
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| 04:41 | <~Noah> | Hotdog stands are totally important |
| 04:43 | <~Noah> | We have one at school on weekdays, and $5 for two of these massive sausagedogs, I'd fight to the death for it |
| 05:10 | <~Noah> | Yea, Joshua says it's a conceptual error, it should read more like 0-1 unit is hand to hand, and >1 unit to the end of the ruler is direct fire |
| 05:14 | <@McMartin> | I have had a Better Idea (tm) |
| 05:14 | <@McMartin> | I probably need a better name for these frames than the Roffelth, though. |
| 05:15 | <@McMartin> | The plan is for the Roffelth to be made as much as possible out of unusable remaindered pieces. |
| 05:15 | <@McMartin> | This includes using minifig torsos to stick wheel wells together, though that wasn't as structurally sound as I had hoped. |
| 05:19 | <@McMartin> | However! This means each hot dog can be a direct fire system. |
| 05:29 | <~Noah> | hehe |
| 05:30 | <~Noah> | Got my ruler made propper now, uses 5 2x12 plates, evenly 3 bottom, 2 top, then two 2x8 plates on the end of the top 2 2x12 plates |
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| 05:32 | < FerrelFerret> | Hey all |
| 05:35 | <~Noah> | Hello Ferret |
| 05:36 | <~Noah> | AndChat, love that client. |
| 05:36 | <~Noah> | I mean to be fair, there's not much else for android, but it's still great, hehe |
| 05:37 | <~Noah> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/w0tz7a79vumnp8a/LDDScreenShot1.png My dinky ruler |
| 05:38 | <~Noah> | With hand to hand marked on either end, so you don't have to flip it |
| 05:41 | < FerrelFerret> | Nice. |
| 05:41 | | * McMartin taps his foot, waiting for phone to finish uploading pics |
| 05:41 | < FerrelFerret> | Yeah, I just picked the app with most stars.. ;) |
| 05:42 | <~Noah> | And that's generally all you have to do, heh |
| 05:42 | <~Noah> | McMartin: How many balugapixels is your phonecam? |
| 05:43 | <@McMartin> | A bunch, but that means terrible focus |
| 05:43 | <~Noah> | Sure does |
| 05:43 | <@McMartin> | I'll need to drag out my 4MP (a smaller number!) digicam for serious photo work, but it uses an xD card and reading data off of that is a challenge these days |
| 05:43 | <~Noah> | Mine's got an autofocus, but I have to poke at it a lot |
| 05:43 | < FerrelFerret> | Though, I will be switching to my computer shortly. :) |
| 05:43 | <~Noah> | Wow, that's less megapixels than I can count on one hand! |
| 05:43 | <@McMartin> | Yeah, the problem here is less focus and more keeping it steady |
| 05:44 | < FerrelFerret> | I've had good luck with my phone. |
| 05:45 | <~Noah> | Yea, seems like an anti-jitter would be built into a phone camera, my cannon had it |
| 05:45 | <~Noah> | I've got a tiny tripod, just need another camera |
| 06:08 | <@McMartin> | Still uploading -_- |
| 06:08 | <@McMartin> | Going to go set up my other camrea and see if I can do everything with it before it's done -_- |
| 06:13 | <~Noah> | lol |
| 06:13 | <~Noah> | Camera phone photos. 4 megs of BLUR |
| 06:17 | <@McMartin> | Pretty much, but the ral camera didn't do very well either -_- |
| 06:17 | <@McMartin> | https://hkn.eecs.berkeley.edu/~mcmartin/mfz_proto/DSCF0922.JPG is the best so far |
| 06:19 | <~Noah> | That's pretty clear |
| 06:19 | <@McMartin> | https://hkn.eecs.berkeley.edu/~mcmartin/mfz_proto/DSCF0924.JPG is the best one overall. |
| 06:19 | <@McMartin> | Yeah, but that's out of 10 shots, and I got two usable ones. |
| 06:24 | <~Noah> | http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g281/MikeTehFox/GIFS/DrivemeCloser.jpg |
| 06:28 | <@McMartin> | https://hkn.eecs.berkeley.edu/~mcmartin/mfz_proto/roffelth2.jpg |
| 06:28 | <@McMartin> | yay |
| 06:28 | | * McMartin goes to fix the pics so they aren't uselessly huge. |
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| 07:33 | <~Noah> | Pics uploading of this insane flying contraption that I just made |
| 07:51 | <~Noah> | http://goo.gl/cgy2l http://goo.gl/kNLhL http://goo.gl/upGTa |
| 07:52 | <~Noah> | Don't ask me how it flies, but presumably it hovers and lands in a docking bay that grabs onto it's wings |
| 08:11 | <~Noah> | And added some more markers to my ruler, for movement |
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| 10:38 | < Ced23Ric> | Yay! |
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| 11:38 | < calculus> | Greetings |
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| 11:40 | | * TheShadow ... would have waved |
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| 12:25 | < Ced23Ric> | Herrow. |
| 12:28 | <@TheShadow> | Greetings |
| 12:28 | < Ced23Ric> | So, how's things? |
| 12:30 | <@TheShadow> | Hilariously busy >.< |
| 13:16 | <@jerith> | TheShadow: I'm not sure if I've asked you this before. Are you the same TheShadow from that other network? |
| 13:16 | <@jerith> | Oh, you're TheWatcher with a different name. |
| 13:16 | <@TheShadow> | Nope; I'm actualy TheWatcher, this is my logbot... |
| 13:16 | <@jerith> | So you aren't him. |
| 13:16 | <@TheShadow> | yeah |
| 13:17 | <@jerith> | I somehow missed that in the WHOIS. |
| 13:17 | <@TheShadow> | It's the clouded mind that does it~ |
| 13:20 | < Ced23Ric> | Mysterious. |
| 13:20 | < Ced23Ric> | If I would be female, I'd fawn over you now. |
| 13:22 | <@jerith> | Ced23Ric: Am I the mysterious one? |
| 13:22 | <@jerith> | Because if so, you can fawn over me no matter what gender you are. |
| 13:23 | < Ced23Ric> | Well, now. Look at what we have here. |
| 13:23 | < Ced23Ric> | You are the one with questions. Things you don't know. Things you wish to discover. |
| 13:24 | < Ced23Ric> | I'd be hard pressed calling you mysterious in that regard. |
| 13:25 | < Ced23Ric> | So, as I am sad to say, it's not you. It's TheShadow. |
| 13:26 | < Ced23Ric> | But you're still cool, if that is of any consolation. :D |
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| 15:02 | < Ced23Ric> | This channel is awfully quiet,. |
| 15:02 | < Ced23Ric> | This channel is awfully quiet. |
| 15:10 | <@TheShadow> | It's a timezone thing |
| 15:11 | <@TheShadow> | Probably liven up a bit when McM and Noah are active. I'm mainly just lurking and logging anyway. |
| 15:16 | < Ced23Ric> | Gotcha. |
| 15:16 | < Ced23Ric> | Well, it's 4:15 in Germany. |
| 15:16 | < Ced23Ric> | pm, that is. |
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| 18:33 | <~Noah> | Hello Ced! |
| 18:34 | <~Noah> | We'll hopefully get more active as we get more users, so feel free to invite other MoF0s~ |
| 18:34 | < Ced23Ric> | Heya Noah. |
| 18:35 | < Ced23Ric> | IRC is slow. People can always check a forum at work. |
| 18:35 | < Ced23Ric> | But chats are ... compromising. ;) |
| 18:37 | <~Noah> | Yea, forums are great too, as are reddits, twitters, etc. Everyone haves their favorite, and IRC is mine |
| 18:42 | <~Noah> | Lol, I see Tycho made a post about Mobile Frame Zero |
| 18:42 | <~Noah> | I wonder if they'll start doing that as well as ping pong |
| 18:43 | <~Noah> | just hope they don't buy all the fiddly bits from Bricklink :\ |
| 18:47 | < Ced23Ric> | I already emptied the shops in Berlin. |
| 18:47 | < Ced23Ric> | Travis bricks? Gone. |
| 18:47 | < Ced23Ric> | "How many of those do you have?" - "24." - "I take all of them." |
| 18:47 | <~Noah> | lol |
| 18:47 | < Ced23Ric> | I am not even joking. :D |
| 18:48 | <~Noah> | Shoot, my son fell asleep in my arms, lemme go put him in his bed |
| 18:48 | < Ced23Ric> | Those things come 25 cents a pop. |
| 18:48 | < Ced23Ric> | And Mittens has 10 of 'em in his Iguanas. |
| 18:48 | <~Noah> | Travis bricks, what are those again? |
| 18:49 | < Ced23Ric> | 1x1 brick, with 4 studs all around. |
| 18:49 | < Ced23Ric> | Pretty much the glue for our more intricate designs. :D |
| 18:50 | < Ced23Ric> | Today, I bought the Brandenburg Gate set twice. |
| 18:50 | < Ced23Ric> | Stocking up on sand green cheese cakes and tan bits. |
| 18:50 | <~Noah> | Oh yea, that brick |
| 18:53 | <~Noah> | Wait, I thought I ordered those. |
| 18:55 | <~Noah> | Blast, I forgot those |
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| 18:58 | <~Noah> | Oh well, he doesn't have any 4733's anyway |
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| 19:28 | <~Noah> | Travis bricks ordered |
| 19:28 | <~Noah> | God those things are expensive |
| 19:32 | <~Noah> | The rest of my order was ~35, those bricks alone where ~8 |
| 19:36 | <@McMartin> | Oh man, now I have to find that one frame |
| 19:39 | <~Noah> | The one made of nothing but Travis bricks? |
| 19:40 | <~Noah> | That's like the "look at my solid gold Bently" of the lego world. |
| 19:40 | <@McMartin> | It was also named the "Travis", IIRC. |
| 19:40 | <@McMartin> | But yes, that one. |
| 19:40 | <~Noah> | lol |
| 19:44 | <~Noah> | http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamsk/7133083503/#DiscussPhoto |
| 19:44 | <~Noah> | That's the one |
| 20:00 | <@McMartin> | That is indeed the one |
| 20:00 | <@McMartin> | The C1 system |
| 20:01 | <@TheShadow> | That's, uh... interesting. |
| 20:02 | <@McMartin> | That's probably $30 in bricks right there |
| 20:13 | <~Noah> | Nah, not quite that much, by my count that's 39 bricks |
| 20:15 | <~Noah> | 13.26 if using white travis bricks |
| 20:16 | <~Noah> | However that's light grey, soo... |
| 20:16 | <~Noah> | 28.5 |
| 20:16 | <~Noah> | So yea, almost 30 |
| 20:16 | <~Noah> | You're right :P |
| 20:17 | <~Noah> | I'm gonna go get my 1x2 and play around with them, brb |
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| 20:20 | <~Noah> | wb Ced |
| 20:20 | < Ced23Ric> | Yo, yo. |
| 20:20 | < Ced23Ric> | Home again. |
| 20:21 | < Ced23Ric> | And: Travis hunting. |
| 20:21 | < Ced23Ric> | I just got 40 in the mail. |
| 20:21 | <~Noah> | Ordered my travis bricks too |
| 20:21 | < Ced23Ric> | And I am about to order another 40. :D |
| 20:21 | <~Noah> | We were remarking about this http://www.flickr.com/photos/adamsk/7133083503/#DiscussPhoto |
| 20:21 | < Ced23Ric> | Yah, I've seen that. |
| 20:21 | < Ced23Ric> | It's so true, it hurts. |
| 20:22 | <~Noah> | We estimated to about $30 in bricks on that |
| 20:23 | < Ced23Ric> | How many Travis' bricks is it? |
| 20:23 | <~Noah> | I estimated 39 |
| 20:23 | < Ced23Ric> | They go for about US$ 0.20. So that'd put you at ... US$8 for the whole thing. |
| 20:23 | <@McMartin> | Apparently it varies by color? |
| 20:24 | <~Noah> | Well, the cheapest light grey in US I found was .75 |
| 20:24 | <~Noah> | But admittedly, I wasn't looking into international stores |
| 20:28 | | * TheShadow has sometimes wondered how Lego manages to get away with charging so much for what is, really, mass-produced, dyed injection-moulded plastic. But meh. |
| 20:29 | <~Noah> | Well, on Lego's pick a brick, they're pretty set in price |
| 20:29 | <~Noah> | I wonder what they charge in shipping though |
| 20:29 | < Ced23Ric> | OH. |
| 20:29 | < Ced23Ric> | Uhm. |
| 20:29 | < Ced23Ric> | I think I can blow your mind. |
| 20:29 | < Ced23Ric> | Let me show you something. |
| 20:30 | < Ced23Ric> | http://www.bricklink.com/search.asp?itemID=1317&colorID=11 |
| 20:30 | < Ced23Ric> | There. |
| 20:30 | < Ced23Ric> | We don't shop at Lego. |
| 20:30 | <@TheShadow> | That said, I need to persuade the wife to left me get some of the Alien Conquest sets, as they look hilariously Gerry Anderson-Ripoff Esque >.> |
| 20:30 | <~Noah> | .35 on pick a brick, only in three colors though |
| 20:30 | < Ced23Ric> | We'd be retardedly poor. :D |
| 20:31 | <~Noah> | TheShadow: lol, and they have some fun bits |
| 20:31 | < Ced23Ric> | Noah: Use Bricklink. You know you want to. |
| 20:31 | <~Noah> | I already am |
| 20:32 | <~Noah> | And like I said, there are plenty of bricks for less than a certain amount, but in quantity? If I order one travis brick from someone, that's... like $3 a brick |
| 20:33 | <~Noah> | TheShadow: The trick to buying lego in store is to keep your cent/piece down to an ammount. |
| 20:33 | <~Noah> | 10c/brick is sort of the average |
| 20:33 | < Ced23Ric> | Nah, you find someone who has like 50. |
| 20:33 | < Ced23Ric> | And buy all of them. |
| 20:33 | <~Noah> | Or that |
| 20:33 | < Ced23Ric> | Then you scan his selection for other parts you want. |
| 20:33 | < Ced23Ric> | And add. |
| 20:33 | < Ced23Ric> | I just filed an order with like 60 Travis bricks and some smaller other stuff. |
| 20:34 | < Ced23Ric> | Oh boy. The cheapest shop in Germany selling Travis bricks in Tan charges a buck per. |
| 20:34 | < Ced23Ric> | Screw that noise. |
| 20:36 | <~Noah> | Ced23Ric: Right. For example, I needed 25 travis bricks, and I'm phobic of ordering international, so for the amount I needed, the cheapest I found was 31c for black |
| 20:36 | < Ced23Ric> | Curses. |
| 20:36 | < Ced23Ric> | Ah, wait. You are statesside, eh? |
| 20:37 | <~Noah> | Yes |
| 20:37 | <~Noah> | South Eastern US |
| 20:37 | < Ced23Ric> | You should be fine ordering from the Canucks. CA -> US is usually fine, it's just US -> CA where things get shoddy. |
| 20:37 | <~Noah> | Yea, I'll probably start expanding to international soon when I'm ordering less |
| 20:38 | < Ced23Ric> | Well, at least the maple leafs should be alright. |
| 20:38 | < Ced23Ric> | No point in ordering from Europe. :D |
| 20:38 | <~Noah> | Stupid VAT |
| 20:38 | <~Noah> | And now I pay tax on Amazon.com now! |
| 20:38 | <~Noah> | Stupid Tennessee |
| 20:49 | <~Noah> | Stupid laptop battery, brb |
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