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| 05:09 | <&McMartin> | System 7 is the first version of the Mac OS that I can actually respect |
| 05:09 | <&McMartin> | Every version prior to that was faking it =P |
| 05:10 | <&McMartin> | Not only was Windows 95 not Apple 84, Apple didn't finish completely catching up until 2001 |
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| 05:33 | <@celticminstrel> | Catching up on what? |
| 06:07 | <&McMartin> | Basic OS capabilities |
| 06:07 | <&McMartin> | System 7 is the first Mac system to ship with real multitasking of any kind by default -- System 6 could optionally install MultiFinder as an add-on |
| 06:08 | <&McMartin> | OS X + Win2000 (or XP if you want to claim Win2k isn't a consumer OS) is the first point where every mainline consumer OS has memory protection and pre-emptive multitasking |
| 06:08 | <&McMartin> | (I'm not counting Desk Accessories for the same reason I'm not counting TSRs in DOS) |
| 06:09 | <&McMartin> | That *said*, also just checked with an older disk and it turns out the screenshotted application also runs in System 6 because I didn't use the System 7 event loop pump |
| 06:09 | <&McMartin> | ... which is presumably also why it makes Basilisk peg a CPU core >_> |
| 06:14 | <@celticminstrel> | TSR? |
| 06:30 | <&McMartin> | Terminate and Stay Resident, a DOS thing that could be leveraged to provide pre-emptive multitasking if you also hooked the BIOS clock interrupt. |
| 06:31 | <&McMartin> | Usually they hooked the keyboard interrupt, though, to give you keyboard macros at the OS level. |
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| 09:21 | < Alek> | TSR was a VERY VERY useful thing in DOS. |
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| 17:44 | <&McMartin> | Oh it absolutely was. But I feel I need to draw the line before "the existence of TSRs means that DOS was, in fact, a pre-emptive multitasking OS", and when I extend that line a bit it also excludes the Atari ST and the Mac under System 6. |
| 19:05 | < Kizor> | https://i.imgur.com/aScwwX9.jpeg |
| 19:06 | < abudhabi_> | Egad. They're using desktops?? |
| 19:10 | <&McMartin> | (a) Can't reach the wireless receivers from the evac area |
| 19:11 | <&McMartin> | (b) you are generally not supposed to gather your personal belongings during a fire evacuation |
| 19:11 | <&McMartin> | (c) you are *certainly* not supposed to gather *the corporate* belongings |
| 20:39 | < abudhabi_> | You don't need to (a) if the local copy doesn't burn. You can do it later. |
| 20:40 | < abudhabi_> | IME, people - myself included - absolutely disobey (b) in drills. |
| 20:41 | < abudhabi_> | (c) seems strange to me. I would imagine, a priori, that saving company assets from fire would be seen in a positive light. |
| 20:41 | < abudhabi_> | Especially if it's a portable gadget assigned to you personally, which you possibly take home with you on the regular. |
| 20:50 | < Mahal> | I don't know if you're aware of this, but it is Very Strongly Advised not to carry stuff with you when you are departing a building in an emergency. Carried Stuff becomes a hazard when it is dropped; bags may impede your ability to remove yourself from a building safely; etc. |
| 20:51 | < Mahal> | Usually backpacks are considered okay, but any bag or etc that needs "active" carrying is considered a hazard for the evacuation. |
| 20:54 | < abudhabi_> | I know. I did get glared at. |
| 20:54 | < abudhabi_> | But tiny corporate overlords are not Tunon's Fatebinders. :V |
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