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| 12:10 | <@gnolam> | Emmy: I still have to support it. |
| 12:10 | <@gnolam> | But hey, we still have a few customers on *DOS*. |
| 12:19 | < Emmy> | hahaha |
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| 12:46 | <&[R]> | My equipment actually runs DOS |
| 12:46 | <&[R]> | DrDOS specifically |
| 12:46 | <&[R]> | (I guess it counts as an embedded system) |
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| 14:24 | <@sshine> | any C#ers around? |
| 14:26 | <@sshine> | I'm trying to understand how async APIs work. if I've got a 'public Task Setup() { ... }' that is supposed to create a connection, but since this may block for some time, the caller should be made aware of that, which is achieved by not simply doing 'public void Setup()'; the Task suggests: you may wanna do this somewhere safe. I guess. |
| 14:27 | <@sshine> | and, in fact, upon returning a Task, I can actually pass around the workload like a lazy lambda. |
| 14:27 | <@sshine> | all neat. |
| 14:28 | <@sshine> | but 1) why isn't it 'public async Task Setup()'? and 2) since it isn't prefixed with 'async', how do I wrap the connection-making code in such a way that execution is deferred? something like new Task(() => { ... })? |
| 14:29 | <@sshine> | also, if all of this is explained in some concurrency in C# for dummies chapter 1-N, feel free to just point. :) |
| 14:30 | <&ToxicFrog> | sshine: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/programming-guide/concepts/async/ is probably the starting point for those docs |
| 14:30 | <&ToxicFrog> | That said, there's two things going on here |
| 14:31 | <@sshine> | (also I've read somewhere that 'async void' is an anti-pattern in C# for technical reasons that I probably understand, and I think the alternative must then be Task.) |
| 14:32 | <@sshine> | s/that I probably understand/related to exception handlers and contexts/ |
| 14:32 | <&ToxicFrog> | - Task represents a computation that may be finished sometime in the future but is not guaranteed to be finished yet. These are first-class objects you can return, pass around, store in variables, block on until finished, etc |
| 14:32 | <&ToxicFrog> | - async/await are a compile-time transformation that makes certain kinds of uses of Tasks easier (with some tradeoffs) |
| 14:33 | <@sshine> | OK. |
| 14:33 | <&ToxicFrog> | You can use Tasks directly without using async/await. |
| 14:33 | <@sshine> | yes. |
| 14:36 | <&ToxicFrog> | async means "this function is going to await things inside it; those awaits should be to async functions or functions returning Tasks; the compiler will automatically futz with it (including potentially splitting it into multiple functions) to make things like "foo = await bar()" equivalent to "task = bar(); wait for task; foo = contents of task" |
| 14:37 | <&ToxicFrog> | Setup probably just creates and returns the Task "by hand" and thus there's no need for it to be declared async. |
| 14:37 | <&ToxicFrog> | It's up to the caller if they want to await Setup() or just grab the task and manage it themselves. |
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| 15:00 | <@sshine> | right, ok. thanks! that makes sense. |
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| 16:53 | <&ToxicFrog> | You're welcome! |
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