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| 01:22 | | * McMartin eyes MinGW |
| 01:23 | <&McMartin> | It's not actually producing executables that the system recognizes as executables when run outside of the MinGW shell |
| 01:23 | <&McMartin> | That's a new one on me |
| 01:26 | <&[R]> | That sounds magical |
| 01:28 | <&McMartin> | They look like PE32 files, and it doesn't notice it's not the right file until after resolving multiple layers of DLL deep |
| 01:28 | <&McMartin> | So there's something deeply wacky happening in the mingw internals that it wasn't expecting to see. |
| 01:31 | <@Alek> | hm. I swear I've played shareware games before that installed a MinGW shell as well, so that may be a requirement? |
| 01:32 | <&McMartin> | I've done the reverse very recently |
| 01:33 | <&McMartin> | MinGW is several things at this point, but generally it just needs a few extra DLLs. |
| 01:33 | <&McMartin> | It's "cygwin" that's the full Unix simulation. |
| 01:34 | <&McMartin> | It's possible to use MinGW to make executables that depend on nothing but the basic ships-with-windows C runtime. |
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| 01:38 | <&McMartin> | However, I ended up linking some wacky POSIX stuff that arguably should not have been there. |
| 01:41 | <@Alek> | ha |
| 01:42 | <&McMartin> | Now, traditionally we built this with MSVC6 for the Windows build, but it would be nice to not rely on that here in 2019. |
| 01:43 | <&McMartin> | (Though if we were to do so, the only annoying part would be building my own build scripts for libpng, whose build scripts only go back to MSVS7.1 >_<) |
| 02:04 | | * McMartin fiddles with minimizing requirements on Windows |
| 02:04 | <&McMartin> | Did someone say they had a Win98 machine to hand? |
| 03:07 | < Kizor> | Only a VM. |
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| 03:22 | <&McMartin> | Not impossible but unless it's got truecolor graphics probably not useful for this case. |
| 03:22 | <&McMartin> | If it does, hey, want to try out this Win32 GUI application I managed to cram into 6KB |
| 03:22 | <&McMartin> | Without using assembly |
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| 17:49 | <@gnolam> | Whoa. |
| 17:49 | <@gnolam> | Alta Vista was only shut down in *2013*. |
| 18:01 | <@Alek> | whoa indeed |
| 18:01 | <@Alek> | how about Ask Jeeves? |
| 18:02 | <~Vornicus> | still exists |
| 18:03 | <@ErikMesoy> | Yahoo! still exists too. And still has the bang. |
| 18:04 | <~Vornicus> | they own dictionary.com and its friends |
| 18:24 | < Emmy> | have they managed to sell tumblr yet |
| 18:26 | <@gnolam> | Yep. Sold it to Auttomatic (Wordpress's owners) about 2 months ago. |
| 18:27 | <@gnolam> | For way less than what they bought it for. |
| 18:27 | <@Tamber> | surprise(!) |
| 18:28 | <@gnolam> | (Obligatory CollegeHumor sketch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtUuab1Aqg0 ) |
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| 20:27 | <@Reiv> | Did Wordpress let the porn back |
| 20:33 | <&[R]> | Naming/framing problem: I have a little shell script that solves a little problem, a generic little problem. Sometimes you have a bunch of small scripts, but all of these small scripts are inter-related, need to share code, or whatever. So I made something I call `mplex` (as in multiplex). It's a script and associated support libraries. Basically you give it a directory and it will produce an shell script that you can call to run stuff from that directory's bin |
| 20:33 | <&[R]> | folder. The libraries it offers let shell scripts trivially source files from the lib folder of the directory, and also give you a few other handles to do things related to the directory-package. |
| 20:34 | <&[R]> | I'm at the point where I should write documentation for this, but I don't know how to even begin describing it, what I should refer the directory too, and the like |
| 21:08 | <~Vornicus> | so what you're saying is |
| 21:09 | < Mahal> | I feel like you've reinvented the environment variable in Windows |
| 21:09 | <~Vornicus> | you have a directory named git/ that has scripts named `git/add.sh`, `git/merge.sh`, `git/rebase.sh` and you now have `mplex.sh` that makes it so `git add`, `git merge`, etc |
| 21:10 | <~Vornicus> | work as you might imagine they do |
| 21:48 | <&[R]> | Yes |
| 21:48 | <&[R]> | Mahal: no |
| 21:48 | <&McMartin> | Wait, what's the name of that program |
| 21:48 | <&McMartin> | You've engitted... |
| 21:48 | <&McMartin> | ... busybox. |
| 21:49 | <&[R]> | The scripts don't need to be the same language |
| 21:49 | <&McMartin> | Right, what I mean is, you have, essentially, one program and it's doing the work of bunches |
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