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| 09:34 | <&[R]> | You can do ssycalls in Linux without using libc right? |
| 09:37 | <&[R]> | https://hero.handmade.network/forums/code-discussion/t/861-compiling_without_libc_on_linux <-- seems so |
| 09:42 | <&McMartin> | You can |
| 09:42 | <&McMartin> | But the syscall API/ABI (kind of the same thing, at that level) is explicitly less stable than the function call ABI |
| 09:43 | <&McMartin> | It's safer on Windows, where "syscalls" *all* end up appearing like function calls (C in x64, Pascal in Win32). |
| 09:43 | <&McMartin> | There you just have to worry about your runtime adding extra calls to C runtime functions behind your back. |
| 09:44 | <&McMartin> | The Handmade Network is an entertaining little enclave. I check in on them now and again, and some of their disciplines are helpful when I'm doing stuff. |
| 09:45 | <&McMartin> | (Indeed, they're the ones who got me the rest of the way to "no libc" on Windows, which let me get my Win32 CCA program down to like 12KB) |
| 09:48 | | * Vorntastic needs to learn how to write a proper paper. |
| 09:48 | <&McMartin> | [R]: If you have not read the four main articles of https://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/ they are a fabulous read |
| 09:48 | <&[R]> | Thanks |
| 09:51 | <&McMartin> | (The first of the four articles is extremely famous and there is a good chance it may have already crossed your desk.) |
| 09:51 | <&McMartin> | Vorntastic: Would this be for an AMS journal or an ACM one? |
| 09:52 | <&McMartin> | (That is, do you think this is mathematical research or computer science research) |
| 09:52 | <~Vorntastic> | I have no idea |
| 09:52 | <&McMartin> | https://www.ams.org/arc/journals/index.html is a start for the AMS one... |
| 09:52 | <~Vorntastic> | I think it's closer to comp sci |
| 09:53 | <&McMartin> | And then ACM's is https://www.acm.org/publications/authors/information-for-authors |
| 09:53 | <&McMartin> | Both of them are basically "yeah, you will need to be using LaTeX, here are some document format files to start with" |
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| 09:56 | <&McMartin> | Looking at their list of publications, the Transactions on Mathematical Software and the Transactions on Graphics both seem plausible |
| 09:57 | <&McMartin> | Meanwhile, *I* need to learn how to write a paper in the *humanities* |
| 09:59 | <&McMartin> | That also said, the last time I wrote a CS paper that I'm actually proud of was in 2005 |
| 10:06 | <&McMartin> | So a first step also if preparing something for publication in a particular place is "actually look at the journal itself and see what it does" |
| 10:12 | <~Vorntastic> | Right now I need to organize my notes at all and figure out what I need to talk about, rewrite this in a language where I need to build less basic shit myself, find the things I looked at, etc etc |
| 10:13 | <~Vorntastic> | Oh and turn my drawings into computer versions |
| 10:15 | <&McMartin> | The paper won't include code. It will be a description of the techniques. |
| 10:15 | <&McMartin> | Code is for Github and appearing in a footnote if that, and academic code is *terrible* >_< |
| 10:24 | | * TheWatcher notes that McM is not wrong |
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| 11:52 | <&[R]> | env | grep -F CHRONICLE_ | while read line; do IFS== read key var <<< "$line"; echo "$var" > /var/run/s6/container_environment/"$key"; done # Weeee |
| 12:02 | <&[R]> | TIL: bash can iterate all variables it has |
| 12:03 | <&[R]> | Well, sort of |
| 12:03 | <&[R]> | `echo "${!W*}"` Will print all variable names that start with W |
| 12:03 | <&[R]> | ${!*} is a curious error |
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| 14:55 | <&jeroud> | I wish CS papers actually included code. Or a link to code. |
| 14:56 | <&jeroud> | The two or three times I've tried to implement something from a paper I've always run into difficulties with bits that are poorly specified. |
| 14:58 | <~Vornicus> | Which is at least in part one thing I want to deal with. |
| 15:04 | <&jeroud> | From yesterday, Python lets you override `__getattr__`, in Ruby it's `method_missing`. They both do effectively the same thing, given that everything on a Ruby object is a method. |
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| 15:17 | <@TheWatcher> | jeroud: one option is to contact the authors (although yes, you shouldn't need to) |
| 16:46 | <&jeroud> | Yeah, but that's more human interaction than want. |
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| 18:18 | <@gnolam> | https://twitter.com/TinkerSec/status/1185624822652518400 |
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