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| 01:35 | < Mahal> | can I just say .. fuck Sharepoint? |
| 01:35 | < Mahal> | I've spent three hours fucking about trying to work out how to automate something |
| 01:35 | < Mahal> | final result: two lines of code. |
| 01:50 | <&[R]> | I'm guessing most of that was trying to find the documentation you needed? |
| 02:11 | < Mahal> | Yes |
| 02:28 | < Mahal> | current sttaus of powershell script: 60% comments, 40% code |
| 02:33 | <&[R]> | Sounds about right |
| 03:38 | <&McMartin> | [17:35] <Mahal> final result: two lines of code. |
| 03:38 | <&McMartin> | "For hitting the pipe with a wrench: $5. For knowing where to hit it: $495." |
| 03:38 | < Mahal> | That's pretty much the size of it, I admit |
| 03:38 | < Mahal> | and I guess that it's Okay that it took me three hours to go from complete ignorance to understanding how to do the thing I needed to do |
| 03:38 | < Mahal> | but come the fuck on, Microsoft. |
| 03:39 | < Mahal> | which module do I neeD? sponline or pnponline? are they ever explained? are they bollocks! |
| 03:39 | < Mahal> | why, when the url is documents/ListofThings, do you have to refer to it by ListofThings but not the URI of documents/ListofThings? |
| 03:39 | < Mahal> | WHY IS THE LOGIC NOT |
| 03:39 | < Mahal> | why is this shit not documented? |
| 03:40 | <&McMartin> | Because even good reference is really thin on the ground, and good reference is not the same thing as the kind of documentation you need to do things like this |
| 03:40 | <&McMartin> | The, um |
| 03:40 | <&McMartin> | The index is backwards |
| 03:40 | < Mahal> | yeah |
| 03:40 | <&McMartin> | I can rant, unending, for weeks about Apple's alleged documentation |
| 03:41 | < Mahal> | (all I wanted to do was add an entry to a list and upload an image!) |
| 03:42 | < Mahal> | (I still can't work out how to get-pnplist and make it show me it's fields!) |
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| 03:46 | < Mahal> | it's a seaparte goddamn command. WHY |
| 03:46 | < Mahal> | WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY |
| 03:58 | <@celticminstrel> | ^ my reaction to apt-cache |
| 03:58 | <@celticminstrel> | At least I think it was called apt-cache |
| 03:58 | <@celticminstrel> | I just remember trying to figure out how to use apt-get to list available packages and there was no way to do it |
| 03:58 | <&McMartin> | Depends on whether the functionally you needed today was in apt-cache or apt-get! |
| 03:58 | <&McMartin> | Yes. |
| 03:58 | <&McMartin> | apt-cache. |
| 03:59 | <@celticminstrel> | It wasn't today mind you, it was like, years ago. But still. |
| 03:59 | <@celticminstrel> | I was used to... probably MacPorts? So I naturally expected both functionalities to be in the same command. |
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| 08:34 | <&jeroud> | Mahal: Oh gods I feel your pain so much. :-( |
| 08:36 | <&jeroud> | The reason I needed to get the fuck out of other work and build that thing yesterday was exactly that. |
| 08:38 | <&jeroud> | One specific tool we use to generate the giant tottering heaps of YAML that fuel kubernetes has a generator plugin documented completely separately from the options that control the behavior of that plugin. |
| 08:40 | <&jeroud> | The docs for the latter vaguely mention the former, but the plugin docs are completely silent about the idea that there may actually be a thing to configure the behaviour. |
| 08:42 | <&jeroud> | I spent a full day trying to get the damned thing to do what I need (build a configmap definition from a collection of files *without* appending a hash to configmap's name) and eventually gave up. |
| 08:43 | <&jeroud> | Weeks later, looking for something completely unrelated, I stumbled over the exact config switch I had needed. |
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