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| 01:00 | <&ToxicFrog> | Holy shit: https://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/11880/build-a-working-game-of-tetri s-in-conways-game-of-life |
| 01:05 | <~Vornicus> | holy shit |
| 01:05 | <&McMartin> | This seems like the opposite of golf~ |
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| 01:49 | <&[R]> | <enderst> btw https://www.safaribooksonline.com/public/cms2017-eper/?promotion_code=SAVEEPER |
| 01:49 | <&[R]> | <enderst> one day left |
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| 02:45 | | * McMartin grmbls at audio processing code |
| 02:45 | <&McMartin> | This is your periodic reminder that "CMSampleBufferGetAudioBufferListWithRetainedBlockBuffer" is an actual function name in a core API |
| 02:46 | < Mahal> | .............. |
| 02:46 | <&McMartin> | People give microsoft shit for verbose function names, but I am here to tell you, they've got nothing on Apple |
| 02:47 | <&[R]> | At least it's not WinAPI, where you need to give it 17 parameters, 3 of which are structs that you have to set a bunch of values on. |
| 02:48 | <&McMartin> | No, instead I pass it 12 arguments, some of which are variables, most of which are structs, and one of which is a callback whose contract is only properly defined in a footnote to a WWDC talk. |
| 02:48 | <&[R]> | Oh wow |
| 02:48 | <&McMartin> | Since becoming a professional iOS developer 2 years ago I have had to retroactively forgive Microsoft for a lot. |
| 02:49 | <&[R]> | Do they also do the MSDN thing where they invalidate all your bookmarks every 18 weeks? |
| 02:49 | <&McMartin> | They also occasionally break their own crossreferences! |
| 02:49 | <&[R]> | bookmarks of API documentation* |
| 02:49 | <&[R]> | Quality |
| 02:49 | <&McMartin> | Yeah |
| 02:50 | <&McMartin> | To be fair, nobody gives a fuck about bookmarks because you're supposed to push the "go tot the relevant page" button in your IDE and this does some kind of indexing or search operation that keeps working. |
| 02:50 | <&McMartin> | But that's also why I'm *much* more vexed about stale links inside of them. |
| 02:51 | <&[R]> | TBF, this was in 2002 when I was starting to learn C |
| 02:51 | <&McMartin> | That was an uglier time, I think |
| 02:51 | <&[R]> | DevCpp was my IDE |
| 02:51 | <&[R]> | Yeah |
| 02:51 | <&McMartin> | I didn't have to seriously contend with MSDN until 2010 or so and they very much had their act together by then. |
| 02:51 | <&[R]> | MSDN wasn't exactly navigatable at the time either, so bookmarks were manditory |
| 02:52 | | * McMartin might still have his MSDN CD from 1997, when it fit on a CD. |
| 02:52 | <&[R]> | Then I got into PHP, and found the PHP docs /so/ much better |
| 02:53 | <&[R]> | You could by MSDN media? |
| 02:53 | <&McMartin> | It was 1997; this was the expected way to get it |
| 02:53 | <&[R]> | Fair enough |
| 02:53 | <&McMartin> | It was the other CD that came with MSVC++6, when I bought it at the student store |
| 02:53 | <&[R]> | Seperate from VS? |
| 02:53 | <&McMartin> | VS didn't exist yet :D |
| 02:54 | <&[R]> | Ah |
| 02:54 | <&McMartin> | IME, MSVS got usable around 2008 and looked nice around 2012 |
| 02:55 | <&McMartin> | Unfortunately, something in the program analysis stuff went *disastrously* wrong in between those two points and tab completion shifted from taking a couple seconds (for an ~500KLOC code base) to "based on that progress bar, it would be 4 hours, whatever" |
| 03:03 | <&McMartin> | Oh wait, a correction: the callback with the API contract only documented in a footnote orphaned in the middle of the site is AudioConverterFillComplexBuffer, which also takes an argument the very long function name above was intended to create |
| 03:03 | <&McMartin> | That one *does* still have two callbacks in it, though, but you feed it values that look like enumerated types and you're golden~ |
| 03:04 | <&McMartin> | Actually, a new version of Xcode landed two days ago. Maybe they've updated the documentation! |
| 03:04 | | * McMartin goes tto check |
| 03:05 | <&McMartin> | It doesn't! Or rather, it doesn't completely. |
| 03:05 | <&McMartin> | It's got half the the contract there; the part where you return 0 packets. But not the part where you fail with error code 1. |
| 03:08 | <&McMartin> | Which is a success that returns valid data |
| 03:18 | <~Vornicus> | um |
| 03:19 | <&McMartin> | AudioConverterFillComplexBuffer is the worst. |
| 04:36 | <@celticminstrel> | Ugh, what on earth is this error. |
| 04:36 | <@celticminstrel> | It's complaining something is not a member of a union when it's clearly declared right there in the union and other parts of the code have no problem referencing it. |
| 04:37 | <@celticminstrel> | Even weirder, some lines that reference it in the same file have no error. |
| 04:40 | <@celticminstrel> | MSVC 2013, C2039, first occurrence at https://github.com/calref/cboe/blob/master/test/monst_write.cpp#L23 |
| 04:43 | <~Vornicus> | uAbility::gen, and its decltype generalAbil? |
| 04:43 | <@celticminstrel> | Yeah. |
| 04:43 | <@celticminstrel> | (The following two lines also error.) |
| 04:43 | <~Vornicus> | alias, rather |
| 04:43 | <@celticminstrel> | There are also instances further down where I do soemthing like abil[stuff].gen that gives an error. |
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| 10:26 | <~Vornicus> | attn: McMartin http://gizmodo.com/you-have-to-be-hopelessly-devoted-to-antique-computers-181001 7275 |
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| 11:45 | <@TheWatcher> | I never thought I'd say this, but thank gods for @media print { } |
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