| --- Log opened Sun Oct 16 00:00:48 2016 |
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| 01:49 | <@celticminstrel> | [Oct 15@2:59:45pm] βΆ McMartin reads backscroll. "(x, y).f() is an interesting syntax for multiple dispatch that I don't think I've actually seen." |
| 01:49 | | * celticminstrel wonders what that syntax would actually mean. |
| 01:52 | <&ToxicFrog> | f(x,y) |
| 01:52 | <@celticminstrel> | But the way it's written suggests you could have stuff like (x,y).f(a,b) |
| 01:54 | <~Vornicus> | indeed, that'd be f(x,y,a,b) |
| 01:56 | <@celticminstrel> | So the x,y would be dynamically dispatched on and a,b just normal parameters, or something like that? |
| 02:01 | <~Vornicus> | Right |
| 02:35 | <&McMartin> | Quite so |
| 02:35 | <&McMartin> | Usually use use the f(x, y, a, b) syntax with some roundabout declaration system when multimethods are actually a thing |
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| 05:59 | < catadroid> | It feels like a logical progression from the original oo call syntax |
| 06:00 | < catadroid> | And would let you specify your explicits and give tooling a chance to give you more options |
| 06:01 | < catadroid> | It feels like a logical progression from what D, Rust and C++ are doing |
| 06:01 | < catadroid> | In that kind of vein |
| 06:01 | < catadroid> | I think it was those |
| 06:01 | < catadroid> | Anyway, *someone* is |
| 06:07 | <&McMartin> | I don't remember what Clojure does |
| 06:07 | <&McMartin> | I think I remember CLOS, where the "this is a dispatch argument" is a marker on the argument |
| 06:07 | <&McMartin> | But of course, CLOS is always going to have everything look roughly like a function call |
| 06:08 | < catadroid> | Yeah, this syntax isn't very lispy |
| 06:09 | < catadroid> | You could always invert it in lisp of course |
| 06:09 | < catadroid> | One of the things I really love in clojure is that vectors and maps are callables and treated like functions |
| 06:10 | < catadroid> | Because, well, they are in a very literal sense |
| 06:11 | <&McMartin> | For me it was keywords, but I believe that was adopted in part from CL |
| 06:11 | < catadroid> | Yeah, those are from CL |
| 06:11 | < catadroid> | They're also neat |
| 06:11 | < catadroid> | Honestly, clojure is clean and only partially hamstrung by being on the JVM |
| 06:12 | < catadroid> | (like complete lack of tail call optimisation) |
| 06:13 | < catadroid> | Python thinks it's reductive in the way that lisp is, but it really isn't |
| 06:13 | < catadroid> | It is fairly neat but it thinks too highly if itself imo |
| 06:13 | < catadroid> | Of* |
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