| --- Log opened Sun Aug 14 00:00:09 2016 |
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| 02:52 | <&McMartin> | Confirmed: iOS's autolayout system is the most alien I've ever seen |
| 02:52 | <&McMartin> | It's also pretty awesome as such things go |
| 02:52 | <&McMartin> | And it might even be efficient; I'd have to do some research |
| 03:04 | <&McMartin> | I'm used to setups where you slot things into fixed (and possibly expandable) patterns and then nest them as needed to get the results |
| 03:05 | <&McMartin> | Starting in iOS 6 their core layout engine appears to involve specifying a system of linear inequalities to constrain widget locations, and widgets are placed by solving those. |
| 03:09 | <&[R]> | lolwut? |
| 03:10 | <~Vornicus> | that is fricking alien. |
| 03:11 | <&McMartin> | It is nice to have something where you get to straight up say "these three widgets form a column, those four form a row" without having to juggle umpteen nested containers. |
| 03:12 | <&McMartin> | NSLayoutConstraint's classes are preposterously verbose (seriously, it makes MS APIs look like pre-Unix) but there are systems built on top of it to make it cleaner |
| 03:12 | <~Vornicus> | reminds me I need to learn more about flex |
| 03:12 | <&McMartin> | https://github.com/SnapKit/Masonry |
| 03:14 | <&McMartin> | Anyway, Xcode's interface builder is pretending to set up constraints for you, but it turns out it's just pretending to until you get around to doing a bunch of non-obvious things with really inconvenient UI and totally uncued gestures |
| 03:14 | <&McMartin> | So I got that working, and then I managed to rip it out of Interface Builder and do it by hand |
| 03:14 | <&McMartin> | My ultimate goal here is to piece by piece eradicate Interface Builder entirely from this app |
| 03:14 | <&McMartin> | And in so doing see how things actually work. |
| 03:15 | <&McMartin> | (This is a different workflow than with it, though, because like all sane GUI systems written in the past decade, UIKit's interfaces can be constructed from a declarative interface that is probably either XML or something that *should* be XML) |
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| 05:44 | <&McMartin> | Interface Builder: Eradicated! |
| 05:45 | <&McMartin> | I now have a relatively minimalistic iOS app that kind of does things, sort of |
| 05:45 | <&McMartin> | The yak that wandered in at about 1630 yesterday has now been haved, 29 hours later. |
| 05:45 | <&McMartin> | *shaved |
| 05:52 | <~Vornicus> | woot |
| 05:53 | <&McMartin> | Also continuing in my grand tradition of my first real program for any system that's mostly graphical being the Cyclic Cellular Automaton |
| 06:07 | <@Alek> | the game of Life? |
| 06:10 | <~Vornicus> | CCA is a different automaton. looks very different |
| 06:13 | <&McMartin> | https://hkn.eecs.berkeley.edu/~mcmartin/CCA.html |
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