| --- Log opened Thu Jun 02 00:00:56 2016 |
| 00:03 | <&McMartin> | Speaking of things that aren't intended to be used by people |
| 00:03 | <&McMartin> | xcodebuild is vastly nicer than Xcode itself |
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| 03:16 | <@celticminstrel> | Xcode isn't that bad though. |
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| 04:20 | < ShadowDragon8685> | http://i.imgur.com/35ev5zT.jpg. |
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| 04:20 | <&McMartin> | celticminstrel: Maybe as a code editor |
| 04:21 | < ShadowDragon8685> | Oh shit, sorry. Mischan. Mis-server, actually. |
| 04:21 | <&McMartin> | In terms of actually producing artifacts I can hand to other people it has been an endless series of tire fires |
| 04:21 | <@celticminstrel> | Ah, I can understand that. |
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| 10:21 | | * gnolam flails at semiotics. |
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| 11:28 | < catadroid> | FUCK YOU C++ |
| 11:29 | | * catadroid burns move constructors and their unrelenting inability to be in any way detectable I'm the presence of a copy constructor |
| 11:29 | < catadroid> | In |
| 11:29 | < catadroid> | In the presence. |
| 11:29 | <@Tamber> | <voice style="booming from sky"> No, cata; you are the presence! </voice> |
| 11:31 | | * catadroid ceases to exist |
| 11:32 | < Vornicus> | what the drugs |
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| 11:33 | <@abudhabi> | Remove thy sandals. :W: |
| 11:36 | < catadroid> | I've determined that the only way to actually do this would be to run clang over the code and use it to see the constructor definitions as a preprocessing step |
| 11:37 | < catadroid> | ie I'm documenting the current suboptimal behaviour and people can work around it if they need to |
| 11:41 | < Vornicus> | how often are the people in the bigger circles actually using the move constructors |
| 11:42 | <@TheWatcher> | My money would be on "quite often, although they don't realise it"~ |
| 11:43 | < Vornicus> | (also for the record my mental image of you is of Ellen Hickle from Pete & Pete; in one episode she was in one of those big marching bands that show up at halftime of football games and they were doing a formation where she was the dot of the "i" and she got super into it, like, "I am a dot. I am a dot." kind of into it.) |
| 11:44 | < Vornicus> | I mean in the sense of, "I care whether this is a move or a copy" kind of thing |
| 11:44 | < catadroid> | Move constructors are great for library types but probably unnecessary for most people to know about |
| 11:45 | < catadroid> | In this case I specifically care for optimising our std::vector type |
| 11:46 | < Vornicus> | (she was also my TV character crush when I was 14) |
| 11:55 | | * catadroid is the dot! |
| 11:56 | < catadroid> | Yeah, I guess we don't look entirely dissimilar |
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| 13:04 | | * gnolam sighs. |
| 13:04 | <@gnolam> | It never fails. |
| 13:05 | <@gnolam> | "You have to fix [x]! Right now! We need an updated file [x] ASAP OR THE WORLD WILL EXPLODE!" |
| 13:06 | <@Tamber> | Then you give them the file, and get no response for a week? |
| 13:06 | <@Emmy> | Don't we all love this sector |
| 13:06 | <@gnolam> | <send it to them via a download service where files expire after 14 days by default> |
| 13:06 | <@gnolam> | <a month or two later> "So... uh... those files you sent us? Seems the link expired." |
| 13:07 | <@TheWatcher> | Emmy: no. |
| 13:07 | <@Tamber> | I love this sector so much, I don't work in it. |
| 13:07 | <@Emmy> | hehehe |
| 13:10 | <@gnolam> | This seriously happens _every single time_. |
| 13:11 | <@Tamber> | Sounds about right. |
| 13:11 | <@Tamber> | :/ |
| 13:12 | <@Emmy> | You better keep those files ready in a backup by default, i guess. :P |
| 13:13 | <@Tamber> | Nah, let 'em burn. |
| 13:13 | <@Tamber> | I mean, they let the world explode by not getting those files before they expired. |
| 13:14 | <@Emmy> | hehehe |
| 13:19 | <@Emmy> | humh. apparently the standard macros in access for the buttons 'Last record' and 'First record' Don't respect any filters set on the form. :/ |
| 13:19 | <@Emmy> | that's kinda lame |
| 13:25 | | * Emmy groands |
| 13:25 | <@Emmy> | *groans |
| 13:25 | <@Emmy> | wtf. |
| 13:26 | <@Emmy> | apparently having an event listed in your code is NOT a guarantee it will be triggered in an event. it also needs to be listed in the properties gui of the appropriate control. |
| 13:26 | <@Emmy> | no wonder that code didnt work. |
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| 13:42 | <@Emmy> | There. 200lines of code now actually function. |
| 13:43 | <@Emmy> | well, including comments and a couple of lites, anyway |
| 13:43 | <@Emmy> | so probably more like 160. |
| 13:43 | <@Emmy> | but still |
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| 14:25 | | * catadroid smashes her head on template brackets |
| 14:26 | < Vornicus> | those are pretty annoying |
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| 14:41 | | * Emmy calls first aid for catadroid |
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| 15:02 | < catadroid> | Actually I'm turning some things into macros for speed |
| 15:02 | < catadroid> | Hilarity ensues |
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| 15:22 | | * Emmy tests code |
| 15:22 | <@gnolam> | ... the actual fuck |
| 15:22 | <@gnolam> | HOW CAN THERE BE TWO COM4s |
| 15:22 | <@Emmy> | <hannibal voice> Aaaaahhh, I love it when a plan comes together. </hannibal voice> |
| 15:22 | <@abudhabi> | A wizard did it. |
| 15:23 | <@abudhabi> | gnolam: One is in phonetic and the other is in ideogram. |
| 15:23 | <@Emmy> | ...in this job, that might actually be the problem too :P |
| 15:24 | <@TheWatcher> | One is the real COM4, the other is a ghostly form of COM4 that actually connects straight to hell. |
| 15:24 | <@TheWatcher> | Choose wisely |
| 15:27 | <@Attilla> | aka COM666 |
| 15:32 | < catadroid> | COMmon problem |
| 15:34 | < catadroid> | Someone tell me to stop trying to be clever |
| 15:35 | <@Emmy> | catadroid, apply your cleverness to world domination like you normally do ;P |
| 15:36 | < catadroid> | Normally? |
| 15:36 | <@gnolam> | TheWatcher: this might literally be the case. |
| 15:36 | < catadroid> | I'm rewriting the internals of what is effectively std::vector |
| 15:36 | < catadroid> | And I should not be |
| 15:36 | <@Emmy> | Also, wasn't network port 666 associated with the first DOOM network/internet multiplayer communication? |
| 15:37 | <@gnolam> | Whatever I'm sending isn't reaching the other end in any case. |
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| 18:59 | <&McMartin> | I find myself in a position where I am optimizing C++ code for space |
| 18:59 | <&McMartin> | I have learned about the void * template specialization trick |
| 18:59 | <&McMartin> | I am both proud of and ashamed for my valiant forbears |
| 19:00 | <@gnolam> | The void * template specialization trick? |
| 19:00 | <&McMartin> | So, the thing about templates is that any templated function exists in the final binary a number of times equal to the number of types you use the template with |
| 19:00 | <&McMartin> | That can start costing some space |
| 19:01 | <&McMartin> | if you say "here is how you do stuff with void *" then every pointer type takes the same path. |
| 19:01 | <&McMartin> | Unfortunately for me, basically all the templates I *really* want to eliminate here are not pointer-based |
| 19:13 | < catadroid> | Yay type erasure |
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| 19:29 | <@gnolam> | Aaaalway, I wanna beeee with you, and make belieeeeeve with you, and live in harmony harmony ooooh love |
| 19:29 | <@gnolam> | +s |
| 19:33 | < catadroid> | Honey with you* |
| 19:41 | < ErikMesoy> | When it's cooold (when it's cold) outsiiiiiiide, am I heeeere in vaaaaain? Hold ooooon, to the niiiiight, there will beeee noooo shaaaaaame |
| 19:43 | <@Tamber> | It's cold outside, there's no kind of atmosphere~ |
| 19:48 | < ErikMesoy> | Man. Robot Unicorn Attack really was a weird smash hit with its saccharine sweet music and visuals, making me want to go "are you twelve?" at myself. |
| 19:48 | < ErikMesoy> | And here I'm still wondering to what extent it should be parsed as entirely serious, unserious but very good at keeping a straight face, or am I overthinking it. |
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| 19:51 | <@Tamber> | Yes. |
| 20:00 | <&McMartin> | All three, and the first part is actually really interesting because of the way 80s cheese has been partially de-gendered |
| 20:00 | <&McMartin> | Kung-Fury did it too |
| 20:01 | <&McMartin> | Now I need to find my summary of it because otherwise I'll miss a piece of it |
| 20:02 | <&McMartin> | "The boys had stuff full of glittering starfields and spaceships and laser knights and stuff" |
| 20:02 | <&McMartin> | ""And the girls had the, uh, Miyazaki on psychotropics neon green landscapes with unicorns and flights of birds" |
| 20:03 | <&McMartin> | "And this seems to have become laser knights on unicorns riding over neon green landscapes under glittering starfields as spaceships and birds do simultaneous flybys" |
| 20:03 | <&McMartin> | Enough people had kid siblings of the other gender and all the cheese blends together after 30 years, I guess~ |
| 20:06 | <&McMartin> | It turns out one of the big schlock brands back then is still around and making branded/imaged stuff for kids, but they've changed just enough with the times that they are a subtler part of the cultural landscape |
| 20:11 | <&jerith> | Who? |
| 20:26 | <&[R]> | http://imgur.com/gallery/YegLM |
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| 21:14 | <&McMartin> | jerith: Lisa Frank |
| 21:16 | <&McMartin> | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/lisa-frank-tarot-deck_us_56e863d0e4b0860f99d ab0b3 |
| 21:24 | <&jerith> | Thanks. |
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| 21:27 | <&McMartin> | So yeah, it's been really hilarious as a late-30-something to see all the 80s-style testosterone poisoning also be going Full Your Kid Sister's Trapper Keeper |
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