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| 00:11 | < simon_> | hmm |
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| 00:11 | < simon_> | I'm generating combinations. |
| 00:12 | < simon_> | or rather, I'm generating permutations by accident. |
| 00:12 | < simon_> | http://lpaste.net/2417703482522861568 |
| 00:15 | | * Vornicus tries to figure out enough haskell to tell what's up |
| 00:16 | < simon_> | that's Standard ML |
| 00:16 | < Vornicus> | well okay |
| 00:17 | < simon_> | I'm taking the total sum, n, and the available coins, cs, and calling recursively allPossible (n-c), i.e. having spent c. |
| 00:17 | <&McMartin> | Put in front takes a list of lists and prepends x to each of those lists, right? |
| 00:17 | < Vornicus> | okay. It looks like what you might need to do is look at the *last* element of your existing lists and only allow appending of coins of equal or greater value than the one you have |
| 00:17 | < simon_> | McMartin, yup |
| 00:17 | < Vornicus> | or first I guess if that's pif |
| 00:18 | < simon_> | Vornicus, yeah, that sounds right. |
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| 06:10 | < simon_> | Vornicus, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/37396197/find-all-possible-combination-of-cha nge-in-sml/37403136 :P |
| 06:11 | < simon_> | I like blasting people with extensive answers. it's an excellent procrastination task. |
| 06:11 | < simon_> | Vornicus, and thanks, your hint got me through in a much shorter time. |
| 06:11 | <~Vornicus> | Nice |
| 06:13 | <~Vornicus> | also, preach it |
| 06:15 | < simon_> | I think what's often missing from programming tutorials is people's mistakes. I feel it'd be dishonest if I didn't somehow go through my first attempt with permutations before magically showing the right solution. like when math teachers/mentors prove things but don't think their wrong paths aloud. |
| 06:22 | <~Vornicus> | Thing is |
| 06:23 | <~Vornicus> | You show the wrong path and it gets fixed in their mind |
| 06:29 | <~Vornicus> | anchoring bias, 'n all that. |
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| 06:52 | < simon_> | Vornicus, hm? |
| 06:52 | < simon_> | Vornicus, I imagine if you show a really crappy, but easily approachable way to solve a problem, it might get stuck in favor of better ways to think. |
| 06:53 | <~Vornicus> | What happens is that if you show them the wrong way then the right way they'll much more easily remember the wrong way 'cause it was first. |
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| 07:08 | < simon_> | oh. |
| 07:08 | < simon_> | on another note, I've realized that three co-workers consistently both spell and pronounce 'filing' as 'filling' in code and emails. worst entity name I've picked so far. |
| 07:09 | < simon_> | I feel like an idiot for sending other people's spelling mistakes in function names through reviews. |
| 07:10 | < simon_> | actually, that's slightly related. they've got the pathways for parsing "filling", so this "filing" shows up, and, them not being native english speakers, they hop to the nearest meaningful word. |
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| 08:16 | <@gnolam> | ... so when people want me to remote in and test experimental features and fixes for their configuration, I tend to assume it's a test setup they have in their lab. Not an actual production machine on the factory floor. >_< |
| 08:16 | <~Vornicus> | ... |
| 08:17 | <~Vornicus> | Yes. |
| 08:18 | < abudhabi> | Welcome to the real world, Neo! :V |
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| 08:57 | < [R]> | <toraton> but prod is the only prodlike environment |
| 08:57 | < [R]> | I'm guessing there was a ton of physical damage that occured? |
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| 10:03 | < abudhabi> | Hm. "cock-a-doodle-doo" looks sort of like a demented UUId. |
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| 12:08 | < abudhabi> | ErikMesoy: This does not seem to have what I want. It mostly concerns itself with observations as from Earth, not arbitrary solar system modelling. |
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| 13:16 | < Emmy> | yay string manipulation |
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| 14:05 | < abudhabi> | Can someone tell me WHY Python has gone with indentation for their blocking scheme? |
| 14:07 | < pjdelport> | It's user-friendly. |
| 14:08 | < pjdelport> | Python more or less inherited it from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABC_(programming_language) |
| 14:08 | < [R]> | It guarantees proper indentation |
| 14:08 | < [R]> | Also consistant indentation |
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| 14:10 | < pjdelport> | http://python-history.blogspot.com/2009/02/early-language-design-and-development .html has more on it. |
| 14:11 | < pjdelport> | The pattern of leading indentation with a colon was an ABC innovation, after user testing. |
| 14:25 | < Azash> | Meh, I find it incredibly annoying after getting used to explicit blocks |
| 14:26 | < catadroid> | I find it fine so long as you've got visible whitespace turned on |
| 14:27 | < catadroid> | Otherwise you end up accidentally ending a block for no reason |
| 14:28 | <@TheWatcher> | It fucks with my head something terrible. |
| 14:30 | | * [R] has little problem with it, except for when people don't use the proper whitespace. |
| 14:31 | < abudhabi> | catadroid: Do you use, like, 1 or 2 spaces per level? |
| 14:31 | < abudhabi> | Because it is easy to make mistakes with too few spaces. |
| 14:42 | < catadroid> | I'd imagine tabs set to four spaces |
| 14:42 | < catadroid> | This is one of my issues |
| 14:44 | <@ErikMesoy> | abudhabi: The way I see it is that in so many languages you'd be indenting anyway as a matter of style as well as using {} or the like, so just indenting was a simplification. |
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| 15:01 | < pjdelport> | Your editor should be handling indentation. |
| 15:02 | < Emmy> | Sadly, this is not always the case... :( |
| 15:02 | < Emmy> | see for example the vba editor. :( |
| 15:03 | < Emmy> | It's a good thing that i'm rather strict in code cleanliness and readability. :) |
| 15:03 | < Emmy> | also, i use a lot of smilies. :| |
| 15:06 | < catadroid> | ...i am designing a new STL container |
| 15:06 | < catadroid> | How exciting |
| 15:06 | < catadroid> | (though why it doesn't already exist anywhere is beyond me) |
| 15:07 | < ToxicFrog> | What container is it, if you can say? |
| 15:09 | < catadroid> | An open addressed hash map |
| 15:09 | < catadroid> | Which would be something like std::flat_unordered_map |
| 15:10 | < catadroid> | This is all the fault of whoever designed unordered_map, who put the bucket backend details in the public interface |
| 15:11 | < catadroid> | Also our hash map claims to be based on std::hash_map, which is exciting because there is no such thing |
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| 15:48 | < ToxicFrog> | catadroid: there is! It's not part of the standard, but it's part of the SGI STL and they put it in std:: because ???? |
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| 15:57 | < catadroid`> | lol |
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| 22:27 | <@gnolam> | [R]: belatedly, no. But I'm bloody terrified now. |
| 22:31 | <@Alek> | gnolam: I am so sorry. It's probably too late to finish now? :( |
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