| --- Log opened Thu Apr 21 00:00:22 2016 |
| 00:00 | | * Vornicus gives you The Grothendeick Prime |
| 00:00 | | * Vornicus is very good with actual numbers. |
| 00:00 | <&McMartin> | That sounds like a Robert Ludlum novel |
| 00:01 | <~Vornicus> | It's actually a number. 57. |
| 00:09 | < RobinStamer> | ... or the fucking thing's default behavior is to spam broadcasts regardless. |
| 00:09 | < RobinStamer> | *headdesks* |
| 00:10 | <~Vornicus> | the hell is it doing |
| 00:10 | <~Vornicus> | or wanting to do |
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| 00:11 | < RobinStamer> | It's a PVR-thingy Telus (ISP on A) gave us that lets us watch TV |
| 00:24 | < RobinStamer> | Apparently it's multi-cast? |
| 00:24 | < RobinStamer> | No idea why it completely destroys the network though |
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| 05:19 | <@Reiv> | oh my god |
| 05:19 | <@Reiv> | Vornicus, McMartin: https://xws-bench.github.io/bench/?# |
| 05:20 | <@Reiv> | Vorn: Just grab one of the squads that looks simple, and give it a go against something swarmy (Fighting against syndicate Thug is a good one; the AI knows what it's doing there) |
| 05:20 | <@Reiv> | I think I've explained enough rules in passing you might do kinda OK~ |
| 05:20 | <&McMartin> | Is this a full sim? |
| 05:21 | <@Reiv> | hm, that Vader + HowlRunner + 3x Black Squadrons might make a good practice; set the four TIEs up in a spaced-apart square. |
| 05:21 | <@Reiv> | Pretty close! |
| 05:21 | <@Reiv> | We've had one on VASSAL for some time, but that's VASSAL and VASSAL is a pain in the arse |
| 05:21 | <@Reiv> | This thing is pretty and has prompts, which leaves me astonished |
| 05:22 | <@Reiv> | oh, /and an AI/ |
| 05:22 | <@Reiv> | It is even passable! |
| 05:22 | <@Reiv> | It is not very /good/, but nor is it braindead |
| 06:42 | <~Vornicus> | thing i learned today: Joel Spolsky is CEO of StackExchange |
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| 08:33 | < catadroid> | Huh |
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| 22:59 | <@Tamber> | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgfnPpMXIAASI24.jpg |
| 23:00 | <&McMartin> | The original case of Now You Have Two Problems |
| 23:00 | <@Tamber> | And One Of Them Is Trying To Eat Your Face. |
| 23:05 | <@ErikMesoy> | How much HTML is actually unparseable by regular expressions in practice, though? |
| 23:06 | < crystalclaw> | theoretically, none, but... |
| 23:06 | <&McMartin> | Well |
| 23:06 | <&McMartin> | Parsing stuff where nesting matters means you have to track nesting, and nesting requires a stack |
| 23:06 | <&McMartin> | HTML is fun for that because nest-closing operations are sometimes implicitly added |
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| 23:09 | < RobinStamer> | Not all HTML is on one line. Many regex libraries don't work well when matching across lines. |
| 23:10 | < RobinStamer> | You can also have a lesser-than inside of an attribute, which (depending on the regex) could screw up your "parsing" |
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| 23:12 | < RobinStamer> | HTML is also super great for having a consistient thing to parse. At first glance you're looking at and for open/close tags. But then you may also have to handle attributes, which are an entirely different thing to parse. Also there's malformed HTML that a proper parser can handle, such as stray lesser-thans just hanging about, or implicitly closed tags. |
| 23:13 | <&McMartin> | Implicitly closed tags aren't even malformed! |
| 23:13 | <&McMartin> | If you want to insist on closing tags, you want the XML stuff |
| 23:13 | < RobinStamer> | The only time using regex on HTML is sane... is when the HTML doesn't change. |
| 23:14 | < RobinStamer> | Aye. And self-closing tags aren't actually HTML, they're XML... but HTML parsers will handle them anyways because people expect that to work when it's not XHTML. |
| 23:15 | <&McMartin> | Self-closing like <br/>? |
| 23:15 | <&McMartin> | (Making sure I'm following here) |
| 23:15 | < RobinStamer> | Yes |
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| 23:53 | <&McMartin> | Has anyone here messed with Xenial yet? |
| 23:55 | < RobinStamer> | Ubuntu? |
| 23:55 | <&McMartin> | Yeah, shipped... today? Yesterday? |
| --- Log closed Fri Apr 22 00:00:38 2016 |