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| 05:31 | <&McMartin> | https://www.idontplaydarts.com/2016/04/detecting-curl-pipe-bash-server-side/ |
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| 22:05 | < RobinStamer> | Ugh this is driving me nuts |
| 22:05 | < RobinStamer> | I'm reorganizing my network right now. |
| 22:05 | < RobinStamer> | I've got four rooms, with a switch each. |
| 22:05 | < RobinStamer> | Room A: two plugs (->B, and computer); Room B: three plugs (->A, ->C, computer); Room C: two plugs (->B, ->D [disconnected]); room D: 11+ plugs. Soon as I connect rooms C and D together, I get a broadcast storm. |
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| 22:14 | < RobinStamer> | Hokay... so it does the same thing when there's exactly one thing plugged into room D: the C-D line. |
| 22:17 | <~Vornicus> | so D's switch sounds like it's doing naughty things |
| 22:46 | < RobinStamer> | If I have C-D hooked up, but A-B not, it also works. |
| 22:46 | < RobinStamer> | A and D do something that makes it so they won't talk to each other. |
| 22:46 | < RobinStamer> | Hmm |
| 22:46 | <~Vornicus> | switches don't have mac addresses do they |
| 22:47 | < RobinStamer> | A is actually one of those consumer grade wifi "router"s, as is C (though C runs DD-WRT). |
| 22:47 | < RobinStamer> | A and D are D-Link devices. B and C are Linksys. |
| 22:47 | < RobinStamer> | D is a 24-port switch. B is an 8 port switch. |
| 23:09 | < RobinStamer> | Okay. So B-C-D-A works fine, for 10 seconds. |
| 23:12 | < RobinStamer> | tcpdump time I guess |
| 23:14 | < RobinStamer> | ... and it's suddenly not shitting itself |
| 23:14 | <&McMartin> | Timing! |
| 23:15 | < RobinStamer> | nm |
| 23:17 | < RobinStamer> | 16:41:38.220192 IP 207.228.118.29.47811 > 232.9.3.27.6288: UDP, length 1328 |
| 23:17 | < RobinStamer> | 16:41:38.220934 IP 207.228.124.68.47811 > 232.9.3.219.6288: UDP, length 1328 |
| 23:17 | < RobinStamer> | 16:41:38.221933 IP 207.228.118.29.47811 > 232.9.3.27.6288: UDP, length 1332 |
| 23:17 | < RobinStamer> | 16:41:38.222008 IP 207.228.118.29.47811 > 232.9.3.27.6288: UDP, length 1328 |
| 23:17 | < RobinStamer> | 16:41:38.222681 IP 207.228.124.68.47811 > 232.9.3.219.6288: UDP, length 1328 |
| 23:17 | < RobinStamer> | 16:41:38.226647 IP 207.228.124.68.47811 > 232.9.3.219.6288: UDP, length 1328 |
| 23:17 | < RobinStamer> | 16:41:38.226905 IP 207.228.118.29.47811 > 232.9.3.27.6288: UDP, length 1328 |
| 23:17 | < RobinStamer> | That's what tcpdump's picking up |
| 23:18 | < RobinStamer> | Neither external interface has IPs like those. I'm using 10.x.x.x internally... |
| 23:21 | < RobinStamer> | Okay. So, when A and D are connected, the "computer" on B causes a broadcast storm. |
| 23:21 | < RobinStamer> | WTF. |
| 23:27 | < RobinStamer> | I'm guessing it doesn't like two exits out onto the open net? (One's at A, the other's at D) |
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| 23:36 | < RobinStamer> | ... or not? |
| 23:36 | < RobinStamer> | The outs are now on A and B, A-B-C-D, everything good, no storm, not seeing those spammed packets at all. |
| 23:42 | < RobinStamer> | ... ah because it crashed. Soon as it's back on, it destroys the network again. |
| 23:46 | < RobinStamer> | Okay, so A-B with out's being A-B, machine plugged in an on, causes a storm. |
| 23:47 | < RobinStamer> | Only other variable is the machine on A, which has been plugged in the entire time... but I'm not certain that a Windows 7 machine would be introducing that much into the storm equation. |
| 23:48 | < RobinStamer> | Time to see if B is somehow configured to NAT things on any address from the internal side. |
| 23:49 | < RobinStamer> | I think so, yeah... |
| 23:49 | < RobinStamer> | match out on $ext_if from $lan_net to any nat-to $ext_ip |
| 23:49 | < RobinStamer> | pass out on $ext_if from $ext_ip to any |
| 23:55 | | * Alek headdesks. |
| 23:57 | <@Alek> | I'm talking with someone about an incremental game. they're saying that when you buy a new map, you need to leave it empty until you can upgrade research to Y level. I'm saying that it's better to upgrade to X as soon as you can, and then upgrade X to Y when you have enough money, by increments (specifically, 25% cumulative increases). |
| 23:57 | <@Alek> | so basically they're saying that it's better to wait because it'll be faster. I agree that it'll be faster then, but am saying that if they start NOW and upgrade incrementally it'll take less time. |
| 23:58 | <@Alek> | but they don't get it. and they claim to have a maths degree. -_- |
| 23:58 | < crystalclaw> | Maths != statistics or IQ |
| 23:58 | <&McMartin> | And it counter-correlates with being able to deal with Actual Numbers >_> |
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