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| 04:25 | < starkruzr> | Me right now: http://reticulum.us/~jtd@rtech.rti/images/webmin.jpg |
| 04:34 | <@celticminstrel> | I'm trying to figure out how to get grep or something to exit with 0 if either no lines begin with space or no lines begin with tab. |
| 04:34 | <@celticminstrel> | And 1 if there are some lines beginning with space and also some lines beginning with tab. |
| 04:35 | <@celticminstrel> | Maybe this pre-commit hook just won't work... |
| 04:37 | <@ErikMesoy> | starkruzr: wat |
| 04:38 | <@ErikMesoy> | I demand details of whatever has gone so wrong |
| 04:38 | < starkruzr> | basically |
| 04:39 | < starkruzr> | This web host at a client of mine has an httpd.conf which is so profoundly fucked up by Webmin as to be almost impossible to decipher |
| 04:42 | <@ErikMesoy> | Does it fill you with the desire to throw it out and rewrite from scratch? |
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| 05:14 | < crystalclaw> | anyone have ANY other ideas for things to try on this? http://pastebin.com/NBR5Cwzd |
| 05:20 | <~Vornicus> | crystalclaw: try, uh, edges? |
| 05:20 | < crystalclaw> | edges? |
| 05:21 | < crystalclaw> | edge trigger? the problem with that is the beeps are not all the same length |
| 05:21 | <~Vornicus> | RIght. this is how CDs encode data actually; edge trigger is 1 and not edge trigger is 0 |
| 05:22 | <~Vornicus> | ('cept they use, you know, flats & grooves) |
| 05:22 | < crystalclaw> | yeah. How would I go about that with this? I can re-extract the data in different ways if needed. |
| 05:23 | < crystalclaw> | and what would different lengths mean? |
| 05:24 | <~Vornicus> | s/0/aa/ s/1/bb/ s/^(.)/\1\1/ s/(.)$/\1\1/ s/ab|ba/1/ s/aa|bb/0/ |
| 05:24 | <~Vornicus> | with a buncha gs on there as appropriate |
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| 05:54 | <@celticminstrel> | Whyyyy is git's grep so different from normal grep in the options it supports. |
| 05:55 | <@celticminstrel> | Like, it doesn't support --exclude |
| 05:55 | <@celticminstrel> | At least according to the manpage. |
| 05:56 | <@celticminstrel> | Maybe the manpage is inaccurate though, because it didn't say "unrecognized option"... |
| 06:00 | < crystalclaw> | Vornicus: well, I've been trying to get that to work with sed for a bit now, with the g's added in the correct spot, but honestly regex is over my head. The third one fails, saying \1 is not defined in the RE. |
| 06:03 | <@celticminstrel> | Maybe you need -P |
| 06:03 | | * crystalclaw manpages |
| 06:03 | <@celticminstrel> | For Perl regex syntax. |
| 06:04 | <@celticminstrel> | I suspect -E (extended) doesn't support backreferences or (?...) extensions. |
| 06:04 | < crystalclaw> | ah! probably. My sed manpage doesn't mention that, interestingly enough. I hadn't been using -E >.> |
| 06:04 | < crystalclaw> | -E seems to work |
| 06:05 | <@celticminstrel> | Ah, okay. |
| 06:05 | <@celticminstrel> | The default may be "regular" regexes, which are not very feature-rich at all. |
| 06:05 | < crystalclaw> | Seems like it |
| 06:09 | < crystalclaw> | That worked! now to see if it made it make any sense... |
| 06:10 | <@celticminstrel> | I dunno if my sed supports -P, I was thinking of grep when I said it. |
| 06:11 | < crystalclaw> | I switched to sed after a quick google made me realize I'm too tired to figure out how to successfully regex in grep |
| 06:12 | | * [R] hardly ever uses grep itself. egrep (extended) and fgrep (no regex) are generally what I want. |
| 06:13 | < [R]> | (They're grep -e and grep -f respectively) |
| 06:15 | < crystalclaw> | I don't know regex yet (it's on my todo list, but it tends to make by brain shut down), so I don't use regex-mode on anything really |
| 06:16 | <~Vornicus> | the third and fourth are specifically "double up the characters at the beginning and end of the line" |
| 06:18 | < crystalclaw> | oh, huh. intersting |
| 06:18 | < crystalclaw> | still nothing on any of the tests though |
| 06:19 | <~Vornicus> | oh well. |
| 06:19 | < crystalclaw> | Maybe I'll never know |
| 06:19 | <~Vornicus> | how long is the thing? |
| 06:19 | < crystalclaw> | it's 158 characters of binary |
| 06:20 | <~Vornicus> | have you tried displaying as a 16x79 bitmap |
| 06:21 | < crystalclaw> | no... |
| 06:21 | < crystalclaw> | also it's a snippit so that /definitly/ helps |
| 06:21 | <~Vornicus> | a snippet of the whole? |
| 06:22 | <~Vornicus> | Then the bitmap might not align sensible. |
| 06:22 | <@celticminstrel> | I thought that was grep -E and grep -F. |
| 06:23 | < crystalclaw> | Yeah, it's a two minute video someone took of something that was beeping in a very precise, consistant way with a duty cycle of 50ms. |
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| 06:45 | < crystalclaw> | Wow. There exsists a tutorial on how to make a bitmap using only a hex editor |
| 07:06 | < crystalclaw> | Vornicus: was that edge-triggered thing bmc possibly? |
| 07:11 | <~Vornicus> | Nope. |
| 07:13 | <~Vornicus> | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-return-to-zero#NRZI |
| 07:15 | < crystalclaw> | Ah. Well, I guess I'll have to try to figure out bmc and let's say... two more of the protocols on that page tomorrow, before I give up |
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| 10:49 | | * TheWatcher hairpulls at schema design |
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| 15:37 | <@gnolam> | Well shit. |
| 15:37 | <@gnolam> | I don't know which is worse - that I've had to modify the build tools themselves or that I didn't bat an eyelid at doing it. |
| 15:37 | <@TheWatcher> | I recommend vodka. |
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| 20:00 | < abudhabi> | Why must there be invisible links in every web page? |
| 20:00 | < abudhabi> | I like clicking on the whitespace as I read, and select text as I read. |
| 20:01 | < abudhabi> | And it highly annoys me when I click some whitespace that turns out to be an element that responds to clicking. |
| 20:01 | <~Vornicus> | because they're jerks |
| 20:04 | <@celticminstrel> | I haven't seen this much... |
| 20:04 | <@celticminstrel> | Certainly not on "every" webpage... |
| 20:09 | < abudhabi> | I am exaggerating, yes. |
| 20:09 | < abudhabi> | In this particular case, medium.com. |
| 20:25 | <&jerith> | Welcome to the Modern Internet, where everyone hijacks the standard interaction mechanisms for their own purposes. |
| 20:27 | <@ErikMesoy> | And a few someones try to write counter-hijacking mechanisms like Adblock, which then get hijacked in turn. |
| 20:29 | <@gnolam> | https://boingboing.net/2016/03/30/cnbcs-secure-password-tutori.html |
| 20:36 | | * ErikMesoy is reminded of that "is my password stolen" website where the "check" button led to a page saying in very big letters IT IS NOW! |
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| 21:12 | <&McMartin> | http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-and-canonical-partner-to-bring-ubuntu-to- windows-10/ |
| 21:15 | <&McMartin> | Also https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/ubuntu-on-windows-the-ubuntu-userspace-fo r-windows-developers/ |
| 21:15 | <&McMartin> | Maybe I won't need to keep hosting that Windows port of xa65~ |
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| 21:18 | | * Emmy blinks |
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| 21:19 | < Emmy> | mind. fucking. blown. |
| 21:20 | <&McMartin> | It's also hilarious because besides that Windows had been *technically* POSIX compliant in various ways that are necessary to land contracts, so I'm honestly not 100% sure how much new stuff needed to be done |
| 21:20 | <&McMartin> | That said |
| 21:20 | <&McMartin> | If it actually got fork() working natively, finally |
| 21:20 | <&McMartin> | That's a first |
| 21:24 | <@Tamber> | Ah, the best kind of compliant: /Technically/ compliant. |
| 21:25 | <&McMartin> | POSIX is kind of wacky, there's a bunch of substandards for various different bits |
| 21:26 | <&McMartin> | So you've got the core calls, and then you've got the stuff like pthreads, etc |
| 21:26 | <&McMartin> | IIRC fork() is actually its very own subsection all on its own |
| 21:26 | <&McMartin> | And meeting POSIX's super-core bit really does boil down to "are you, like, an operating system" |
| 21:26 | <&McMartin> | As you'd hope, given the name~ |
| 21:27 | <&McMartin> | What's cool about this is that it's matching the *binary syscall*, which is completely nonstandard AFAIK. Linux, BSD, etc. all do those differently |
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