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| 03:50 | <@himi> | ugh |
| 03:50 | <@himi> | Building rust from source is painful |
| 03:52 | <&McMartin> | Yikes, I bet. |
| 03:52 | <&McMartin> | How many bootstrapping phases are there now |
| 03:53 | < [R]> | Really? |
| 03:54 | | * [R] has built Lua, GCC, Python, node.js, perl, ruby and PHP from source... none of them have been paticularly painful. |
| 03:54 | < [R]> | Oh and Terra |
| 03:55 | < [R]> | (PHP was the worst to build... but that's because I had to rebuild it a few dozen times to make sure I had all the modules needed) |
| 03:59 | < [R]> | Actually... if building your compiler/interpreter is a huge PITA, how are you expecting to get adoption? |
| 04:02 | <&McMartin> | Most people don't build their compilers from scratch |
| 04:03 | < [R]> | You kind of have to when the language is in the "no-one has adopted us enough to make us available in the distro's repos" stage... |
| 04:06 | <&McMartin> | Not really |
| 04:06 | <&McMartin> | There are pre-built binaries available too |
| 04:06 | <&McMartin> | The problem with compilers is that they are traditionally implemented mostly in themselves |
| 04:07 | <&McMartin> | So you construct it in phases, with the capabilities and libraries growing in step |
| 04:09 | <@himi> | The rust build includes llvm/clang, as well as all the core libraries |
| 04:09 | <@himi> | As well as a standard multistage bootstrap |
| 04:09 | <&McMartin> | Oh right, Phase 0 is going to require clang, isn't it. |
| 04:09 | <@himi> | It's not so much /painful/ as really really long, thanks to building llvm from source |
| 04:10 | <@himi> | GCC is relatively simple by comparison, though I haven't tried it in ages |
| 04:10 | <@himi> | Rust I only do it because . . . well, because building your own compiler from scratch is cool? |
| 04:10 | <&McMartin> | It's still not exactly lollipops and rainbows |
| 04:11 | <@himi> | Yeah |
| 04:11 | <&McMartin> | But you do indeed just push a button and then walk away for a long while. |
| 04:11 | <&McMartin> | I would imagine Rust is similar, but that long while might be longer. |
| 04:23 | <@himi> | Like I said, I don't have any current gcc build to compare with it, but last time I got a successful rust build it took at least 12 hours |
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| 04:38 | | * McMartin finishes up a Bumbershoot series! |
| 04:38 | <&McMartin> | https://bumbershootsoft.wordpress.com/2016/03/12/fli-part-1-16-color-mode/ https://bumbershootsoft.wordpress.com/2016/03/19/fli-part-2-going-fullscreen/ |
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| 05:04 | <~Vornicus> | McM: for your benefit, a style directive. Sadly doesn't work on ff or safari. <img style="-ms-interpolation-mode: nearest-neighbor; image-rendering: pixelated;"> |
| 05:05 | <&McMartin> | Welp. |
| 05:05 | <&McMartin> | That said |
| 05:06 | <&McMartin> | I am running them through ImageMagick with -resize, which is supposed to *be* nearest-neighbor. |
| 05:06 | <~Vornicus> | that is odd. |
| 05:06 | <&McMartin> | I have actually been getting betrayed by this a bunch lately |
| 05:06 | <&McMartin> | avisynth's pointresize was similarly problematic. |
| 05:07 | <~Vornicus> | no fun at all |
| 05:08 | <&McMartin> | It's like there's something about VICE in particular that wrecks nearest-neighbor, but, um, integral 2x or 4x resizes are supposed to be immune to this |
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