| --- Log opened Sun Mar 06 00:00:52 2016 |
| 00:15 | < Far|2> | Regarding what catadroid said, Iād like to add that the console uses UCS-2, while the rest should use proper UTF-16 (might be there are some other corners where adding such support was inconvenient) |
| 00:16 | <&McMartin> | ISTR things like NTFS filenames basically permitting "broken" UTF-16 |
| 00:16 | <&McMartin> | The superbly named WTF-8 encoding is designed to make such broken UTF-16 roundtrippable through a superset of UTF-8 |
| 00:17 | <&McMartin> | (Rust uses WTF-8 to represent pathnames for exactly this reason) |
| 00:17 | < Far|2> | :D |
| 00:17 | < Far|2> | Ok, nice, didnāt know about that |
| 00:18 | <&McMartin> | WTF-8 is actually really slick, let me see if I can find the docs on it agai |
| 00:18 | <&McMartin> | n |
| 00:18 | < Far|2> | On the other hand, I very much like filesystems which donāt care about the names given to files, so this is probably even preferable to me :) |
| 00:18 | <&McMartin> | https://simonsapin.github.io/wtf-8/ |
| 00:19 | < Far|2> | Only for displaying these names, there would have to be workarounds |
| 00:19 | <&McMartin> | UTF-8 sneaks in a couple of actually very strict rules that make it unusually well-suited for pathnames |
| 00:21 | <&McMartin> | Which is to say, the null byte and the ASCII-encoded path separator character both will only appear as bytes in UTF-8 in places where they should mean that |
| 00:23 | < Far|2> | Better yet itād be if ordinary programs didnāt have to deal with pathnames at all, but I guess thatās a topic for another day (wanted to leave and just checked my client a last time before actually leaving my chair ;) ) |
| 00:24 | <&McMartin> | There are the non-ordinary programs that still have to care, and it makes their lives easier~ |
| 00:25 | < Far|2> | Just to hint at my idea: Programs should be in containers (with their own, private namespaces) by default, which seems to be similar to how Android already does it (but I was first to think of it :P ). Interaction with user-provided files would be done over handles exclusively for everything that isnāt a file-browser add-on, basically |
| 00:26 | < Far|2> | Instead of making a file picker appear, programs would just ask for files, the OS (shell) would get the file in whichever way seems appropriate (also allowing scripting) and a kind of handle would be provided to the program in the end |
| 00:27 | < Far|2> | McMartin: Of course, with the current infrastructure, on common OS-es, itās not really feasible yet, but one may still dream ;) |
| 00:55 | <@celticminstrel> | I wonder what github would do if I told it to delete the master branch. |
| 00:55 | <&ToxicFrog> | you might need -f but I'm pretty sure it'll do it |
| 00:56 | <@celticminstrel> | Like, how would the web interface know which branch to show. |
| 00:57 | | * celticminstrel doesn't really need the master branch because this is a fork, so everything either goes on other branches or straight upstream. |
| 00:58 | <@celticminstrel> | I suppose the best way to find out is to try it and see. |
| 00:58 | <@celticminstrel> | "refusing to delete the current branch" |
| 00:59 | <@celticminstrel> | Same with -f |
| 00:59 | <@celticminstrel> | Oh well. |
| 00:59 | <@celticminstrel> | I know how to change the current branch (I think), but there's no logical way to specify which is the current branch. |
| 01:29 | <&McMartin> | http://news.softpedia.com/news/popular-wordpress-plugin-comes-with-a-backdoor-st eals-site-admin-credentials-501383.shtml |
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| 08:49 | < kourbou> | Heyo. |
| 08:49 | < kourbou> | So I talked to the devs. |
| 08:49 | < kourbou> | Apparently they install the kernel on the EFI partition. :| |
| 08:49 | < kourbou> | And the 30mb that were left weren't enough. |
| 08:50 | < kourbou> | Anyone know how I can /SAFELY/ resize my EFI partition? |
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| 09:59 | <&ToxicFrog> | ,, ccv,vvv21 |
| 09:59 | <&ToxicFrog> | you might need -f but I'm pretty sure it'll do it |
| 10:00 | <&ToxicFrog> | you might need -f but I'm pretty sure it'll do it'///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////'/////////////////////// /////////////////////////////////////////' |
| 10:00 | <&ToxicFrog> | / |
| 10:04 | <~Vornicus> | Hello alex/////////////////////////////////////////// |
| 10:07 | <&ToxicFrog> | kourbou: it's just a FAT32 partition with a special partition type ID. |
| 10:07 | <&ToxicFrog> | Either resize normally with gparted. |
| 10:08 | <&ToxicFrog> | Or back up the contents, delete, recreate larger, format with fat32 and copy the stuff you backed up into yet. |
| 10:08 | <&ToxicFrog> | *into it. |
| 10:08 | < kourbou> | yeah I guess I can do that |
| 10:08 | < kourbou> | but inside there's big files in a folde'r called snapshots |
| 10:08 | < kourbou> | I backed up the contents and made a recovery key |
| 10:08 | < kourbou> | and I'm going to delete them and see if it still works |
| 10:09 | <&ToxicFrog> | And yeah, it needs to put the kernel (and the initrd) on the ESP, so that it can boot with efistub, which works by loading the kernel as an EFI executable. |
| 10:09 | <&ToxicFrog> | I didn't even think to suggest checking that, because (a) I assumed you had a much larger ESP (default for windows is 100MB, most linux distros will do 128-256MB) and (b) I assumed the installer would check for and handle obvious errors like that! |
| 10:12 | < kourbou> | Well it didn't. |
| 10:12 | < kourbou> | The OS is kind of new. |
| 10:12 | <&ToxicFrog> | That really isn't an excuse >.< |
| 10:22 | < kourbou> | xD |
| 10:22 | < kourbou> | Idk. |
| 10:31 | < kourbou> | Watching the livestream from the devs. |
| 10:31 | < kourbou> | He just admitted the installer sucks xD |
| 10:32 | < kourbou> | https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/c69kima7dg58gcdsu4r7cn5pm0k |
| 10:32 | < kourbou> | If anyone is curious. |
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| 19:18 | <&McMartin> | http://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-ransomware-idUSKCN0W80VX |
| 19:18 | <&McMartin> | Transmission seems to be the vector, and that's p. common |
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| 20:43 | <@celticminstrel> | ...I just thought, it'd be nice if git rebase automatically stashed if necessary beforehand and reapplied the stash afterwards. |
| 20:45 | < Azash> | Then again, git's the kind of system where you want to minimize implicit things |
| 20:45 | < Azash> | eg. you forgot to add/commit your changes before rebase |
| 20:46 | <@celticminstrel> | Well, at least offering an option for when that is what you want. |
| 20:47 | <@celticminstrel> | (But, if you forgot to add/commit, I don't see how an autostash thing would be problematic - you can still add/commit after the rebase.) |
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| 20:48 | < Azash> | What if that commit would affect the rebase, though? |
| 20:49 | <@celticminstrel> | How so? |
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